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Re: Compatable Cymbals For DTExpress II

2003-01-25 by liberatusvirus <liberatusvirus@yahoo.com>

It's hit or miss with the midiKITI, but here's a link at ebay for a 
Roland PM-16 currently available. If you can get it for $100 or 
less, you'll be in good shape; there doesn't appear to be much 
bidding on it. The PM-16 is probably a safer bet than the KITI, 
anyway. If you have trouble programming it, you can probably get 
help from other users more easily, and you may never have to worry 
about inputs again. 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewItem&category=10175&item=2502810537&rd=1

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "jadiebooshkie 
<jadiebooshkie@y...>" <jadiebooshkie@y...> wrote:
> I WAS ABLE to place the order for my cymbals via the internet (the 
> way Tom doesn't like)  I will email him again and ask him if he 
> received the order.  As far as the Visulite ride goes, I will have 
> to figure out a way to hook it up, I just thae the DTXII modile, 
and 
> DON'T wanna loose other pads.  I searched ALL OVER the WEB and 
> couldn't find the KatMIDI KITI....you know where I can find one?
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus 
> <liberatusvirus@y...>" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > Tom Pickard, designer and owner of the company, doesn't like the 
> > internet sales process, though he hasn't been able to delete it 
> from 
> > his site, and would rather the company deal directly with 
> customers 
> > via the phone number(voice mail if no one answers) or the email 
> link 
> > on the ordering page. Specify your order and leave a phone 
number 
> or 
> > email address; someone (maybe Tom) will return your call or 
email 
> to 
> > get further info and a credit card # from you. Let me know if 
you 
> > don't get a response, and I'll tell Tom know next time I speak 
> with 
> > him.
> > 
> > Ed
> > 
> > Default settings on the Yamaha may allow crosstalk between the 
> bell 
> > and bow, but judicious raising of specific rejection and 
lowering 
> of 
> > gain as necessary will remove all trace of it.
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "jadiebooshkie 
> > <jadiebooshkie@y...>" <jadiebooshkie@y...> wrote:
> > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus 
> > > <liberatusvirus@y...>" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > > > Jade,
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks for asking. I've had a little time to tinker and test 
> the 
> > > > Visu-lite 1800B ride today through the Yamaha, and I'm 
really 
> > > I am trying to order a visulite from their online store...I 
> can't 
> > > seem to create an account, and there is only voice mail on 
their 
> > > phone number....HOW did you order yours?....Jade
> > > 
> > > > impressed. It triggers every bit as reliably and as 
> sensitively 
> > as 
> > > > my first impression led me to believe. The bell is generous 
in 
> > > size 
> > > > and easy to hit. I haven't had time to determine the level 
of 
> > > > crosstalk between it and the bow yet, but I'll definitely 
get 
> > > there. 
> > > > I originally intended to mate the cymbal with my midiKITI, 
> which 
> > > has 
> > > > some stacking features that the DTX doesn't, but it works 
too 
> > well 
> > > > through the Yamaha to justify any such move. In fact, it 
makes 
> > the 
> > > > Yamaha ride voices actually sound good without layering. The 
> > Visu-
> > > > lite is confirming me in my purist ways.
> > > > 
> > > > Stick noise through the 1800B's rubber playing surface over 
> the 
> > > > acrylic is a little more evident than on some other cymbals, 
> but 
> > > not 
> > > > bad at all. Those who play mostly through a monitor won't 
> > flinch; 
> > > > those who use headphones should be able to find comfortable 
> > volume 
> > > > and gain settings. As for looks, when light from a lamp in a 
> > dark 
> > > > rooms hits the translucent edges, the effect is brilliant. I 
> can 
> > > > imagine how the Visu-lites look on stage. 
> > > > 
> > > > Ed
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "jadiebooshkie 
> > > > <jadiebooshkie@y...>" <jadiebooshkie@y...> wrote:
> > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus 
> > > > > <liberatusvirus@y...>" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > Jade,
> > > > > >This will be GREAT...ain't nothin' like playin' on real 
> > > > > HiHats....your critique of the Visulite Ride...how is it?
> > > > > 
> > > > >  
> > > > > > Remember that the only place that you can add new pads 
is 
> > > input 
> > > > > > 9/10, which will take either two mono pads or one dual-
> zone 
> > > > pads. 
> > > > > > The TP80s, as a stereo pad, won't give you both rim and 
> body 
> > > > > through 
> > > > > > 9/10, only the body. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The Visu-lite hi hat assembly is definitely on the way. 
> Tom 
> > > and 
> > > > I 
> > > > > > just procured a Yamaha module to serve as the basis for 
> it, 
> > > and 
> > > > > Tom 
> > > > > > got out his trusty ohm meter to measure the signal of 
the 
> > > Yamaha 
> > > > > > HH80 controller last Saturday. The plan is to make a 
> > > controller 
> > > > > that 
> > > > > > can accomodate both Roland and Yamaha modules with the 
> flick 
> > > of 
> > > > a 
> > > > > > switch. Very cool.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Ed
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, deb maniace 
> > > > <jadiebooshkie@y...> 
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Haven't had a chance to work on the cross-talk issue,
> > > > > > > but I did talk to Dave J from Yamaha, and he said that
> > > > > > > I could use a Y adapter to hook up more pads in lieu
> > > > > > > of another brain.  I think I will invest in another
> > > > > > > dual zone cymbal, and maybe get the TP80S, and call it
> > > > > > > a day.  I will check out the the Visulites, and I do
> > > > > > > HOPE they make a HH for Yamaha...it would be great to
> > > > > > > play on a real HH...thanks for all your help.  I will
> > > > > > > be looking for your critique on the Visulite Ride you
> > > > > > > bought.
> > > > > > > Jade
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- "liberatusvirus <liberatusvirus@y...>"
> > > > > > > <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > I hope that you solved that crosstalk problem
> > > > > > > > between the hat and 
> > > > > > > > the snare. The only cymbal that I've had trouble
> > > > > > > > getting to work 
> > > > > > > > adequately through Yamaha electronics is the Hart
> > > > > > > > dual-zone ride. 
> > > > > > > > Rolands work, and the Pintech Zenbal is terrific,
> > > > > > > > either in mono or 
> > > > > > > > stereo (bow and rim, like the Yamahas). My new
> > > > > > > > favorite is the Visu-
> > > > > > > > lite 18" dual-zone ride. It is elegant looking (mine
> > > > > > > > is translucent 
> > > > > > > > grey) and responsive. It comes in either dual-zone
> > > > > > > > (separate trigger 
> > > > > > > > for the bell) or single zone (no bell). I hope to do
> > > > > > > > a full report 
> > > > > > > > in a few days when I've had more time with it. You
> > > > > > > > can take a good 
> > > > > > > > look and get a demo of Visu-lite's cymbals in action
> > > > > > > > at their 
> > > > > > > > website. If you do, check out the hi hat. At this
> > > > > > > > point, there is 
> > > > > > > > only a Roland version, but a Yamaha compatible hi
> > > > > > > > hat assembly is 
> > > > > > > > well in progress.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "jadiebooshkie 
> > > > > > > > <jadiebooshkie@y...>" <jadiebooshkie@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Just wondering...what other brands of cymbals will
> > > > > > > > work with the 
> > > > > > > > > DTExpress II...namely dual zones?  Hart, Pintech
> > > > > > > > Roland?...Anyone 
> > > > > > > > > tried using these with the DTXII module?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
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