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Re: Settings for Pintech AX14S Snare

2003-01-03 by liberatusvirus <liberatusvirus@yahoo.com>

Scott,

Mesh heads seem to bring out the torque in me, and I've paid the 
price. And I still have more to pay; I noticed at least one more 
damaged rod yesterday. I guess I've become a charter member of the 
Steward Copeland "you can never get the heads too tight" club. I was 
never that way with acoustics. Pintech does well by me. 

Ed

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "hairytrigger <artifax@i...>" 
<artifax@i...> wrote:
> Thanks, Ed.
> I will try raising the gain and flipping the switch.
> I hope I haven't tightened the head beyond reason. Just trying to 
get 
> it to feel good!
> Scott
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus 
> <liberatusvirus@y...>" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > Scott,
> > 
> > If your self-rejection setting is at 0, and you're still 
getting  
> > dropouts when you buzz with one hand and try a whack with the 
other, 
> > the trigger or trigger/module may be masking itself when the 
> > transition is too abrupt and dynamic. (I seem to recall 
something 
> > like that to be an artifact of piezos but not FSRs, but don't 
quote 
> > me). But raising sensitivity can cover a multitude of sins. I'm 
> > curious to learn what flipping the DIP and raising the gain will 
do 
> > in your case. The result may not necessarily be compatible with 
your 
> > playing style or voicings. By the way, I think that my sporadic 
> > dropouts have a similar pattern. Thanks for doing a better 
analysis 
> > of them. One caution when tightening heads on electronic drums: 
you 
> > can strip the rods. Take it from me. I tighten like mad and have 
had 
> > to change rods and lugs on two different drums. Moderation is 
the 
> > key. But then again, everybody is probably more intelligent 
about it 
> > than I am.
> > 
> > Ed
> > 
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "hairytrigger <artifax@i...>" 
> > <artifax@i...> wrote:
> > > Hey, Dennis
> > > My story is about the same as Ed's. But I have the switch in 
back 
> > low, 
> > > and gain around 60. I'm still experimenting. Great response 
> > though. I 
> > > am going to try Ed's settings. Nothing to lose, and maybe lots 
to 
> > > gain.. About your no trigger at all near the rim... Did you 
> > tension 
> > > the head after you got it? Pintech says it needs a full turn 
on 
> > each 
> > > rod.I think mine was more like three. This can make a huge 
> > difference 
> > > in response.The tighter the head, the less noticeable the hot 
spot 
> > is, 
> > > also.
> > > The only 'dropouts I've noticed is when I do 
a "pressroll/flam".
> > > I don't know what it is really called, but when you do a short 
> > > pressroll with the right hand followed immediately by a shot 
with 
> > the 
> > > left.Anyway, if I don't end that pressroll part soon enough, 
the 
> > > left-hand-shot doesn't trigger.I've had to modify my playing a 
bit 
> > to 
> > > ensure it is heard. Or worse, play it properly, with both 
hands 
> > doing 
> > > the roll (R-L-R-L) with the last L played hard. It's all 
played in 
> > the 
> > > time it takes to play a flam. I don't know why the last one 
drops 
> > out. 
> > > My rejection settings are all '0'.
> > > This problem caused me to set up a kit with my extra pad as a 
> > second 
> > > indetical snare. The drums in the Door's 'Love Me Two Times' 
is 
> > played 
> > > as a snare shuffle, with flams on the 2 and 4.Some of my 2's 
and 
> > 4's 
> > > were dropping out, so I set up the other pad as snare, and 
played 
> > it 
> > > as though it were the HiHat. Problem solved. I hope all this 
makes 
> > > sense...And I hope it helps!!!
> > > 
> > > Good luck
> > > 
> > > Scott
> > > 
> > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus 
> > > <liberatusvirus@y...>" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > > > Hi Dennis,
> > > > 
> > > > Scott just got one of these, too. Maybe he'll have another 
> > story. I 
> > > > have noticed a hot spot in the middle of the AX14S under the 
> > > > trigger; it's unavoidable. But you can work around it. What 
I 
> > did is 
> > > > change the type of pad for input 2 from TP snare to DT 
snare. My 
> > > > global trigger setting is DT 10/20 (medium is the default). 
> > Because 
> > > > the AX14S is on a separate stand, you don't have to worry 
about 
> > > > crosstalk. I have rejection and specific rejection at zero 
and 
> > self-
> > > > rejection at 1 or 2, depending on which way the wind blows. 
My 
> > gain 
> > > > is usually high, in the 90s, and my minimum velocity at rock 
> > bottom. 
> > > > One more component to this ultra-hot setup is to flip the 
DIP 
> > switch 
> > > > corresponding to input 2 at the back of the module to the up 
> > > > position. You'll need a tiny screwdriver or needle to do it, 
> > unless 
> > > > you've got great finger nails. The result should be good 
> > sensitivity 
> > > > all around the drum, from center to rim, almost as though 
the 
> > module 
> > > > were capable of positional sensing. Although I cannot claim 
> > > > perfection for this method (I've had an inexplicable dropout 
or 
> > > > two), it generally works pretty well. Pressed rolls near the 
> > tension 
> > > > rods were unthinkable with the standard gum rubber, or even 
the 
> > > > otherwise wonderful Pintech ConcertCasts. But now they're 
pretty 
> > > > accurate--not to say that tweaking is a thing of the past. 
It 
> > goes 
> > > > on forever.
> > > > 
> > > > Ed
> > > > 
> > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "dennisw562003 
> > <dennisw56@i...>" 
> > > > <dennisw56@i...> wrote:
> > > > > I have added the AX14 snare to my DTXpress. Can anyone 
help me 
> > out 
> > > > > with the DTXpress settings for the new snare.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I only get sound when the head is hit directly in the 
middle.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I also learned talking to Pintech, to get the snare and 
rim 
> > sound 
> > > > a 
> > > > > Y1 splitter must be used with the head mono connected to 
the 
> > snare 
> > > > > and the rim mono connected to 9/10.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks, Dennis

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