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Re: Settings for Pintech AX14S Snare

2003-01-03 by hairytrigger <artifax@internetcds.com>

Thanks, Ed.
I will try raising the gain and flipping the switch.
I hope I haven't tightened the head beyond reason. Just trying to get 
it to feel good!
Scott

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus 
<liberatusvirus@y...>" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> Scott,
> 
> If your self-rejection setting is at 0, and you're still getting  
> dropouts when you buzz with one hand and try a whack with the other, 
> the trigger or trigger/module may be masking itself when the 
> transition is too abrupt and dynamic. (I seem to recall something 
> like that to be an artifact of piezos but not FSRs, but don't quote 
> me). But raising sensitivity can cover a multitude of sins. I'm 
> curious to learn what flipping the DIP and raising the gain will do 
> in your case. The result may not necessarily be compatible with your 
> playing style or voicings. By the way, I think that my sporadic 
> dropouts have a similar pattern. Thanks for doing a better analysis 
> of them. One caution when tightening heads on electronic drums: you 
> can strip the rods. Take it from me. I tighten like mad and have had 
> to change rods and lugs on two different drums. Moderation is the 
> key. But then again, everybody is probably more intelligent about it 
> than I am.
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "hairytrigger <artifax@i...>" 
> <artifax@i...> wrote:
> > Hey, Dennis
> > My story is about the same as Ed's. But I have the switch in back 
> low, 
> > and gain around 60. I'm still experimenting. Great response 
> though. I 
> > am going to try Ed's settings. Nothing to lose, and maybe lots to 
> > gain.. About your no trigger at all near the rim... Did you 
> tension 
> > the head after you got it? Pintech says it needs a full turn on 
> each 
> > rod.I think mine was more like three. This can make a huge 
> difference 
> > in response.The tighter the head, the less noticeable the hot spot 
> is, 
> > also.
> > The only 'dropouts I've noticed is when I do a "pressroll/flam".
> > I don't know what it is really called, but when you do a short 
> > pressroll with the right hand followed immediately by a shot with 
> the 
> > left.Anyway, if I don't end that pressroll part soon enough, the 
> > left-hand-shot doesn't trigger.I've had to modify my playing a bit 
> to 
> > ensure it is heard. Or worse, play it properly, with both hands 
> doing 
> > the roll (R-L-R-L) with the last L played hard. It's all played in 
> the 
> > time it takes to play a flam. I don't know why the last one drops 
> out. 
> > My rejection settings are all '0'.
> > This problem caused me to set up a kit with my extra pad as a 
> second 
> > indetical snare. The drums in the Door's 'Love Me Two Times' is 
> played 
> > as a snare shuffle, with flams on the 2 and 4.Some of my 2's and 
> 4's 
> > were dropping out, so I set up the other pad as snare, and played 
> it 
> > as though it were the HiHat. Problem solved. I hope all this makes 
> > sense...And I hope it helps!!!
> > 
> > Good luck
> > 
> > Scott
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus 
> > <liberatusvirus@y...>" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > > Hi Dennis,
> > > 
> > > Scott just got one of these, too. Maybe he'll have another 
> story. I 
> > > have noticed a hot spot in the middle of the AX14S under the 
> > > trigger; it's unavoidable. But you can work around it. What I 
> did is 
> > > change the type of pad for input 2 from TP snare to DT snare. My 
> > > global trigger setting is DT 10/20 (medium is the default). 
> Because 
> > > the AX14S is on a separate stand, you don't have to worry about 
> > > crosstalk. I have rejection and specific rejection at zero and 
> self-
> > > rejection at 1 or 2, depending on which way the wind blows. My 
> gain 
> > > is usually high, in the 90s, and my minimum velocity at rock 
> bottom. 
> > > One more component to this ultra-hot setup is to flip the DIP 
> switch 
> > > corresponding to input 2 at the back of the module to the up 
> > > position. You'll need a tiny screwdriver or needle to do it, 
> unless 
> > > you've got great finger nails. The result should be good 
> sensitivity 
> > > all around the drum, from center to rim, almost as though the 
> module 
> > > were capable of positional sensing. Although I cannot claim 
> > > perfection for this method (I've had an inexplicable dropout or 
> > > two), it generally works pretty well. Pressed rolls near the 
> tension 
> > > rods were unthinkable with the standard gum rubber, or even the 
> > > otherwise wonderful Pintech ConcertCasts. But now they're pretty 
> > > accurate--not to say that tweaking is a thing of the past. It 
> goes 
> > > on forever.
> > > 
> > > Ed
> > > 
> > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "dennisw562003 
> <dennisw56@i...>" 
> > > <dennisw56@i...> wrote:
> > > > I have added the AX14 snare to my DTXpress. Can anyone help me 
> out 
> > > > with the DTXpress settings for the new snare.
> > > > 
> > > > I only get sound when the head is hit directly in the middle.
> > > > 
> > > > I also learned talking to Pintech, to get the snare and rim 
> sound 
> > > a 
> > > > Y1 splitter must be used with the head mono connected to the 
> snare 
> > > > and the rim mono connected to 9/10.
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks, Dennis

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