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Re: Settings for Pintech AX14S Snare

2003-01-02 by liberatusvirus <liberatusvirus@yahoo.com>

Scott,

If your self-rejection setting is at 0, and you're still getting  
dropouts when you buzz with one hand and try a whack with the other, 
the trigger or trigger/module may be masking itself when the 
transition is too abrupt and dynamic. (I seem to recall something 
like that to be an artifact of piezos but not FSRs, but don't quote 
me). But raising sensitivity can cover a multitude of sins. I'm 
curious to learn what flipping the DIP and raising the gain will do 
in your case. The result may not necessarily be compatible with your 
playing style or voicings. By the way, I think that my sporadic 
dropouts have a similar pattern. Thanks for doing a better analysis 
of them. One caution when tightening heads on electronic drums: you 
can strip the rods. Take it from me. I tighten like mad and have had 
to change rods and lugs on two different drums. Moderation is the 
key. But then again, everybody is probably more intelligent about it 
than I am.

Ed


--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "hairytrigger <artifax@i...>" 
<artifax@i...> wrote:
> Hey, Dennis
> My story is about the same as Ed's. But I have the switch in back 
low, 
> and gain around 60. I'm still experimenting. Great response 
though. I 
> am going to try Ed's settings. Nothing to lose, and maybe lots to 
> gain.. About your no trigger at all near the rim... Did you 
tension 
> the head after you got it? Pintech says it needs a full turn on 
each 
> rod.I think mine was more like three. This can make a huge 
difference 
> in response.The tighter the head, the less noticeable the hot spot 
is, 
> also.
> The only 'dropouts I've noticed is when I do a "pressroll/flam".
> I don't know what it is really called, but when you do a short 
> pressroll with the right hand followed immediately by a shot with 
the 
> left.Anyway, if I don't end that pressroll part soon enough, the 
> left-hand-shot doesn't trigger.I've had to modify my playing a bit 
to 
> ensure it is heard. Or worse, play it properly, with both hands 
doing 
> the roll (R-L-R-L) with the last L played hard. It's all played in 
the 
> time it takes to play a flam. I don't know why the last one drops 
out. 
> My rejection settings are all '0'.
> This problem caused me to set up a kit with my extra pad as a 
second 
> indetical snare. The drums in the Door's 'Love Me Two Times' is 
played 
> as a snare shuffle, with flams on the 2 and 4.Some of my 2's and 
4's 
> were dropping out, so I set up the other pad as snare, and played 
it 
> as though it were the HiHat. Problem solved. I hope all this makes 
> sense...And I hope it helps!!!
> 
> Good luck
> 
> Scott
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus 
> <liberatusvirus@y...>" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > Hi Dennis,
> > 
> > Scott just got one of these, too. Maybe he'll have another 
story. I 
> > have noticed a hot spot in the middle of the AX14S under the 
> > trigger; it's unavoidable. But you can work around it. What I 
did is 
> > change the type of pad for input 2 from TP snare to DT snare. My 
> > global trigger setting is DT 10/20 (medium is the default). 
Because 
> > the AX14S is on a separate stand, you don't have to worry about 
> > crosstalk. I have rejection and specific rejection at zero and 
self-
> > rejection at 1 or 2, depending on which way the wind blows. My 
gain 
> > is usually high, in the 90s, and my minimum velocity at rock 
bottom. 
> > One more component to this ultra-hot setup is to flip the DIP 
switch 
> > corresponding to input 2 at the back of the module to the up 
> > position. You'll need a tiny screwdriver or needle to do it, 
unless 
> > you've got great finger nails. The result should be good 
sensitivity 
> > all around the drum, from center to rim, almost as though the 
module 
> > were capable of positional sensing. Although I cannot claim 
> > perfection for this method (I've had an inexplicable dropout or 
> > two), it generally works pretty well. Pressed rolls near the 
tension 
> > rods were unthinkable with the standard gum rubber, or even the 
> > otherwise wonderful Pintech ConcertCasts. But now they're pretty 
> > accurate--not to say that tweaking is a thing of the past. It 
goes 
> > on forever.
> > 
> > Ed
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "dennisw562003 
<dennisw56@i...>" 
> > <dennisw56@i...> wrote:
> > > I have added the AX14 snare to my DTXpress. Can anyone help me 
out 
> > > with the DTXpress settings for the new snare.
> > > 
> > > I only get sound when the head is hit directly in the middle.
> > > 
> > > I also learned talking to Pintech, to get the snare and rim 
sound 
> > a 
> > > Y1 splitter must be used with the head mono connected to the 
snare 
> > > and the rim mono connected to 9/10.
> > > 
> > > Thanks, Dennis

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