Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "gibson3691" <michtip63@s...> wrote:

Hi Mike,

Someone with the kit should probably give you definitive answers, or 
confirm mine, but I'll comment in the meantime.
 
> well, I received the ry120 snare and I like it. I also added a 
cymbal 
> and want to add the tp65s (used for snare previously). How might I 
go 
> about this? The manual says change from input 1 (kp65) to  9/10 and 
> split the signals. That changes my whole kit setup.

Doesn't the special come with only one extra input, since it has 
three cymbals? Under normal conditions, your Hart splash would be the 
logical choice for the open one (half of input 9/10, I assume) via a 
splitter. Apparently, however, you can switch the kick pad from input 
1 to input 9/10, allowing you to plug an extra component into the 
jack on the kick to access input 10 remotely without having to resort 
to a splitter to fill up input 9/10. The module also allows you to 
make an internal adjustment to recognize this switch so that you can 
still use the factory kits. (Right, gang?) So in your SP kit as 
delivered, with one-half of input 9/10 already filled by a PCy-130 
cymbal, the advantage of this configuration would be to open up input 
1 to handle the type of multi-voicing that your TP65s has, which 
input 9/10 cannot do. That strategy, however, would leave the Hart 
out in the cold, since you wouldn't have any more spare inputs.

> From original 5pc DtxpressIII special with 3 cymbals/HH, I am 
> attempting 6piece using the additional tp65s as an addtl flr tom. I 
> also added a Hart Ecymbal to be used as a splash. Does this kit not 
> support additional components?

See above. Unless I missed my guess (which is always a possibility), 
something that you have now--either the Hart or the TP-65s--gets left 
out unless you can find a trigger to MIDI interface or a second 
module to provide you with more inputs. This opens a whole other can 
of worms. You could also split an input and use it to duplicate 
something that you already have. The Hart would get only one voice 
regardless of its piggyback; the TP could get three if it shared an 
input with a tri-sound trigger. 
 
> From the pics here I have seen where many have added toms /accy's 
> without addtl brain added. If I "Y" split these signals do I lose 
the 
> dual trigger ride? Now I'm lost. Is there a guide here as to which 
> trigger input performs what single or dual trigger function and or 
> how to daisy chain pads? The more I play, the more lost I get. 
HELP!!

If you split a programmed input with an appropriate pad/cable, you 
should get all of the same voices/trigger settings on both pads. But 
you will not be able to split the individual voices of head/edge or 
bow/bell/edge into separate pads of their own. The design of the TP 
and PCY pads and their switch-type inputs does not permit it (one of 
our members is working on a special device to allow so- 
called "stereo" inputs to be divided into separate pads, but it's 
still in development). Certain types of input (like 9/10) do allow 
such splitting between mono components, but these inputs are not 
equipped to handle the separate voices on the Yamaha rubber pads that 
you have. Search the archives for the difference between 
between "stereo" and "dual-zone" in e-drum parlance.

On the DTXpressII module, inputs 2, 6, and 7 were the only ones 
capable of all three sounds on a TP-65s or PCY-150 or 130s. If I'm 
not mistaken, on the III module, inputs 1-7 qualify, but I'll let 
somebody else in the know verify.

Ed