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Ribbon application

Ribbon application

2007-11-22 by djbrow54

No one has mentioned a ribbon controller application. I have done a
program that interfaces the Kurzweil PC-2 ribbon to my PSIM and it
works pretty good. I bought my ribbon from Sweetwater for $50. I
assume they still have them.

The program outputs are a CV, trigger, and gate. This can be built in
a depopulated CVS pcb and there is a photo in my photo album called
"CVS special build configuration". I've got a second ribbon that I was
going to use this PCB for, but haven't quite finished yet. Contact me
for details if you are interested in building a CVS for a ribbon
controller.

Dave

Re: Ribbon application

2007-11-23 by Larry T.

Dave

I curious why you have populated 4 input channels? What is the output
from the Kurzweil PC-2 controller? Could you actually populate even
less on the board for this dedicated use? I also noted the use of the
AtomPro 24 instead of the 28, good idea for this dedicated use.

Larry T.

--- In ComputerVoltageSources@yahoogroups.com, "djbrow54" <davebr@...>
wrote:
>
> No one has mentioned a ribbon controller application. I have done a
> program that interfaces the Kurzweil PC-2 ribbon to my PSIM and it
> works pretty good. I bought my ribbon from Sweetwater for $50. I
> assume they still have them.
>
> The program outputs are a CV, trigger, and gate. This can be built in
> a depopulated CVS pcb and there is a photo in my photo album called
> "CVS special build configuration". I've got a second ribbon that I was
> going to use this PCB for, but haven't quite finished yet. Contact me
> for details if you are interested in building a CVS for a ribbon
> controller.
>
> Dave
>

Re: Ribbon application

2007-11-23 by m0n075

This sounds really interesting.
I love ribbon controllers.
So yes give me some info Dave.

Cheers,

Dennis


--- In ComputerVoltageSources@yahoogroups.com, "djbrow54"
<davebr@...> wrote:
>
> No one has mentioned a ribbon controller application. I have done
a
> program that interfaces the Kurzweil PC-2 ribbon to my PSIM and it
> works pretty good. I bought my ribbon from Sweetwater for $50. I
> assume they still have them.
>
> The program outputs are a CV, trigger, and gate. This can be built
in
> a depopulated CVS pcb and there is a photo in my photo album
called
> "CVS special build configuration". I've got a second ribbon that I
was
> going to use this PCB for, but haven't quite finished yet. Contact
me
> for details if you are interested in building a CVS for a ribbon
> controller.
>
> Dave
>

Re: Ribbon application

2007-11-23 by djbrow54

The Kurzweil ribbon is actually three independent ribbon segments.

One CVS output is for 5.6 volts to power the ribbon. I use a diode
drop in the bottom leg so the ribbon output is 0.6 to 5.6 volts. That
way I can detect 0 volts which means no contact with the ribbon. The
other three outputs are CV, Trigger, and Gate.

Three of the inputs are used for each of the ribbon sections. The
middle ribbon is backwards so the software reverses the middle and
pieces back the sections. I have a constant that I adjust to match the
voltage drop of the diode and the piecewise continutity of the ribbon
is pretty good. There are just very slight discontinuities as you
switch from ribbon to ribbon.

The fourth input is optional and is used with a potentiometer to
control offset. I generally run the output of my ribbon to an offset
module which will generate +/- 5 volts from the 0 to 10 volt output.
The conversion is not perfect, so this offset allows me to 'dial' in 0
at the exact center of the ribbon. For example, if I'm using the
ribbon to FM an oscillator, I can press on the center of the ribbon,
and dial in no modulation by listening to the oscillator. In a
dedicated setup, this could be a software constant but I left it in.

Of course modifying the software could give you three independant
ribbons. You could add the second DAC and control circuitry to provide
three independant CV, Trigger, and Gate outputs.

Dave

--- In ComputerVoltageSources@yahoogroups.com, "Larry T." <larry@...>
wrote:
>
> Dave
>
> I curious why you have populated 4 input channels? What is the
output
> from the Kurzweil PC-2 controller? Could you actually populate even
> less on the board for this dedicated use? I also noted the use of
the
> AtomPro 24 instead of the 28, good idea for this dedicated use.
>
> Larry T.
>
> --- In ComputerVoltageSources@yahoogroups.com, "djbrow54" <davebr@>
> wrote:
> >
> > No one has mentioned a ribbon controller application. I have done
a
> > program that interfaces the Kurzweil PC-2 ribbon to my PSIM and it
> > works pretty good. I bought my ribbon from Sweetwater for $50. I
> > assume they still have them.
> >
> > The program outputs are a CV, trigger, and gate. This can be built
in
> > a depopulated CVS pcb and there is a photo in my photo album
called
> > "CVS special build configuration". I've got a second ribbon that I
was
> > going to use this PCB for, but haven't quite finished yet. Contact
me
> > for details if you are interested in building a CVS for a ribbon
> > controller.
> >
> > Dave
> >
>

Re: [ComputerVoltageSources] Re: Ribbon application

2007-11-23 by Dennis Verschoor

Dave,

Thanks for your description.

Cheers,

Dennis


On 11/23/07, djbrow54 <davebr@...> wrote:
>
> The Kurzweil ribbon is actually three independent ribbon segments.
>
> One CVS output is for 5.6 volts to power the ribbon. I use a diode
> drop in the bottom leg so the ribbon output is 0.6 to 5.6 volts. That
> way I can detect 0 volts which means no contact with the ribbon. The
> other three outputs are CV, Trigger, and Gate.
>
> Three of the inputs are used for each of the ribbon sections. The
> middle ribbon is backwards so the software reverses the middle and
> pieces back the sections. I have a constant that I adjust to match the
> voltage drop of the diode and the piecewise continutity of the ribbon
> is pretty good. There are just very slight discontinuities as you
> switch from ribbon to ribbon.
>
> The fourth input is optional and is used with a potentiometer to
> control offset. I generally run the output of my ribbon to an offset
> module which will generate +/- 5 volts from the 0 to 10 volt output.
> The conversion is not perfect, so this offset allows me to 'dial' in 0
> at the exact center of the ribbon. For example, if I'm using the
> ribbon to FM an oscillator, I can press on the center of the ribbon,
> and dial in no modulation by listening to the oscillator. In a
> dedicated setup, this could be a software constant but I left it in.
>
> Of course modifying the software could give you three independant
> ribbons. You could add the second DAC and control circuitry to provide
> three independant CV, Trigger, and Gate outputs.
>
> Dave
>
> --- In ComputerVoltageSources@yahoogroups.com<ComputerVoltageSources%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "Larry T." <larry@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > I curious why you have populated 4 input channels? What is the
> output
> > from the Kurzweil PC-2 controller? Could you actually populate even
> > less on the board for this dedicated use? I also noted the use of
> the
> > AtomPro 24 instead of the 28, good idea for this dedicated use.
> >
> > Larry T.
> >
> > --- In ComputerVoltageSources@yahoogroups.com<ComputerVoltageSources%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "djbrow54" <davebr@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > No one has mentioned a ribbon controller application. I have done
> a
> > > program that interfaces the Kurzweil PC-2 ribbon to my PSIM and it
> > > works pretty good. I bought my ribbon from Sweetwater for $50. I
> > > assume they still have them.
> > >
> > > The program outputs are a CV, trigger, and gate. This can be built
> in
> > > a depopulated CVS pcb and there is a photo in my photo album
> called
> > > "CVS special build configuration". I've got a second ribbon that I
> was
> > > going to use this PCB for, but haven't quite finished yet. Contact
> me
> > > for details if you are interested in building a CVS for a ribbon
> > > controller.
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> >
>
>
>



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Re: Ribbon application

2007-12-06 by djbrow54

I went ahead and finished up my ribbon project. I just had to make the
interface cable for the RJ-11 connector on the ribbon to my CVS PCB.
I created a web page with the schematics and program for this project
at:
http://modularsynthesis.com/cvs/cvs3.htm

The schematics are the full CVS schematics with the unused parts in
gray so you can tell what parts are not used.

Dave

--- In ComputerVoltageSources@yahoogroups.com, "djbrow54" <davebr@...>
wrote:
> No one has mentioned a ribbon controller application. I have done a
> program that interfaces the Kurzweil PC-2 ribbon to my PSIM and it
> works pretty good. I bought my ribbon from Sweetwater for $50. I
> assume they still have them.
>
> The program outputs are a CV, trigger, and gate. This can be built
> in a depopulated CVS pcb and there is a photo in my photo album
> called "CVS special build configuration". I've got a second ribbon
> that I was going to use this PCB for, but haven't quite finished
> yet. Contact me for details if you are interested in building a CVS
> for a ribbon controller.

Re: Ribbon application

2009-09-25 by m0n075

Is it possible to connect 2 ribbons to one cvs board?

Cheers,

Dennis

--- In ComputerVoltageSources@yahoogroups.com, "djbrow54" <davebr@...> wrote:
>
> I went ahead and finished up my ribbon project. I just had to make the
> interface cable for the RJ-11 connector on the ribbon to my CVS PCB.
> I created a web page with the schematics and program for this project
> at:
> http://modularsynthesis.com/cvs/cvs3.htm
>
> The schematics are the full CVS schematics with the unused parts in
> gray so you can tell what parts are not used.
>
> Dave
>
> --- In ComputerVoltageSources@yahoogroups.com, "djbrow54" <davebr@>
> wrote:
> > No one has mentioned a ribbon controller application. I have done a
> > program that interfaces the Kurzweil PC-2 ribbon to my PSIM and it
> > works pretty good. I bought my ribbon from Sweetwater for $50. I
> > assume they still have them.
> >
> > The program outputs are a CV, trigger, and gate. This can be built
> > in a depopulated CVS pcb and there is a photo in my photo album
> > called "CVS special build configuration". I've got a second ribbon
> > that I was going to use this PCB for, but haven't quite finished
> > yet. Contact me for details if you are interested in building a CVS
> > for a ribbon controller.
>

Re: Ribbon application

2009-09-26 by djbrow54

My ribbon application only took four channels. You could run two ribbons by using all 8 channels which the CVS has. You'd just have to modify the program. There is probably a way to multiplex them to reduce the channel count but you have enough channels to just duplicate for two. The software has to be modified but this should be pretty straight forward.

Note, however, that each ribbon is actually three ribbon mechanisms and I piece them back together for one continuous ribbon. You could modify the program for 3 independent ribbons, or piece them together to make 2 independent ribbons. Just software.

Dave


--- In ComputerVoltageSources@yahoogroups.com, "m0n075" <modular@...> wrote:
>
> Is it possible to connect 2 ribbons to one cvs board?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dennis
>
> --- In ComputerVoltageSources@yahoogroups.com, "djbrow54" <davebr@> wrote:
> >
> > I went ahead and finished up my ribbon project. I just had to
> > make the interface cable for the RJ-11 connector on the ribbon
> > to my CVS PCB. I created a web page with the schematics and
> > program for this project at:
> > http://modularsynthesis.com/cvs/cvs3.htm