Casio CZ/ VZ/ FZ - Pro Series

I really want to play around with some of the CZ101 patch editors 
out there, but I want to be able to back up all my current rad 
patches. So far, I havnt found any programs that read and store 
whats already inside the cz. I use windows. does such a thing exist?!

if i have to, ill just go through perameter by perameter writing it 
all down =/

thanks!~

I made a simple Program for win32.
You can download it from: www.synthomania.de .
Although it is in German, you shouldnt have any problems because its really minimalistic. Perhaps I will translate it to English this evening.
Daniel

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: numberrrr 
  To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 9:55 AM
  Subject: [CZsynth] cz101 sysex dump? must backup patches! help!


  I really want to play around with some of the CZ101 patch editors 
  out there, but I want to be able to back up all my current rad 
  patches. So far, I havnt found any programs that read and store 
  whats already inside the cz. I use windows. does such a thing exist?!

  if i have to, ill just go through perameter by perameter writing it 
  all down =/

  thanks!~


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I did the translation.
www.synthomania.de
Daniel

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: numberrrr 
  To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 9:55 AM
  Subject: [CZsynth] cz101 sysex dump? must backup patches! help!


  I really want to play around with some of the CZ101 patch editors 
  out there, but I want to be able to back up all my current rad 
  patches. So far, I havnt found any programs that read and store 
  whats already inside the cz. I use windows. does such a thing exist?!

  if i have to, ill just go through perameter by perameter writing it 
  all down =/

  thanks!~


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--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, Daniel Krüger <
daniel.b.krueger@w...> 
wrote:
> I tested the software on several systems and had no such problems.
> But I take your note serious and will remove the software from the 
net!!
> I think the main problem are the different language versions of 
some systemfiles. Please install an english version and your system 
should work again ! I'm really sorry for all that trouble.
> Daniel 

Thanks.

My OS is Windows 98 SE [English langauge].

The files that VBRUN60 replaced which were older than the ones I 
previously had on the computer were:

ASYCFILT.DLL      2.40.4275.1
COMCAT.DLL        5.00.1601.1
OLEAUT32.DLL      2.40.4277.1
OLEPRO32.DLL      5.00.4275.1
STDOLE2.TLB       2.40.4275.1

Your program produces the following error message:

CZControl 1.0

Component 'vslight6.OCX' or one of its dependencies not correctly 
registered: a file is missing or invalid

I have never seen an error message with this wording before.  Is 
vslight6.OCX one of your components or part of VBRUN60? Is it called 
by your porgram?  vslight6.OCX is not on my computer.

Norton WinDoctor reports no problems.

I am trying to locate VBRUN60.EXE  MS has several updated versions.  
I will try the latest one I can find.

I hope this helps figure out the problem.  

Steve

Ok Steve, I think this was the problem:
vslight6.ocx is a control that  isnt used by the program but was somehow linked to my vb projekt. Only the english version I added yesterday had these problems, I should have been more carefully. However, I created a new installer that contains only two of the basic files: the program itself and the midiio.ocx. Try this, it should work. www.synthomania.de/czcontroleng.exe
If you need any further advice, just ask me.
Daniel

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: steve_the_composer 
  To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 2:12 AM
  Subject: [CZsynth] Re: cz101 sysex dump? must backup patches! help!


  --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, Daniel Krüger <
  daniel.b.krueger@w...> 
  wrote:
  > I tested the software on several systems and had no such problems.
  > But I take your note serious and will remove the software from the 
  net!!
  > I think the main problem are the different language versions of 
  some systemfiles. Please install an english version and your system 
  should work again ! I'm really sorry for all that trouble.
  > Daniel 

  Thanks.

  My OS is Windows 98 SE [English langauge].

  The files that VBRUN60 replaced which were older than the ones I 
  previously had on the computer were:

  ASYCFILT.DLL      2.40.4275.1
  COMCAT.DLL        5.00.1601.1
  OLEAUT32.DLL      2.40.4277.1
  OLEPRO32.DLL      5.00.4275.1
  STDOLE2.TLB       2.40.4275.1

  Your program produces the following error message:

  CZControl 1.0

  Component 'vslight6.OCX' or one of its dependencies not correctly 
  registered: a file is missing or invalid

  I have never seen an error message with this wording before.  Is 
  vslight6.OCX one of your components or part of VBRUN60? Is it called 
  by your porgram?  vslight6.OCX is not on my computer.

  Norton WinDoctor reports no problems.

  I am trying to locate VBRUN60.EXE  MS has several updated versions.  
  I will try the latest one I can find.

  I hope this helps figure out the problem.  

  Steve


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--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, Daniel Krüger <
daniel.b.krueger@w...> 
wrote:
> Ok Steve, I think this was the problem:
> vslight6.ocx is a control that  isnt used by the program but was 
somehow linked to my vb projekt. Only the english version I added 
yesterday had these problems, I should have been more carefully. 
However, I created a new installer that contains only two of the 
basic files: the program itself and the midiio.ocx. Try this, it 
should work. www.synthomania.de/czcontroleng.exe
> If you need any further advice, just ask me.
> Daniel

Thanks for recompiling the program.  It boots up properly.

I will have to see if I can get my CZ patches from either my 
Commodore 64 disks or data tapes.  The only CZ patches I have on the 
PC are not in SYX format.  When I was writing a patch bank program 
(first on the C-64 and then on an 8088 using Turbo Pascal), I used 2 
file formats: (1) 16 patches-no sysex header/EOX and (2) 256 patches-
again no sysex header/EOX. I haven't written midi programs in years, 
but I suppose I could try to find Turbo Pascal and write a program to 
stick in the sysex.   

Are you going to be developing CZControl 1.0 further?

Steve

PS: I deleted message 1369 on the CZ board.  You may want to delete 
message 1371.

I have currently no time for further developing, but I plan to rewrite everything in c++ (less trouble with .ocx etc.) and add a patch editor for "Hidden Parameters". To the file format: Actually, the format depends on which kind of synth is selected in the setup menue. 16 patches for cz101/1000, 32 patches for cz3000/5000 and 64 patches for cz1. Each patch contains the send request message. All in all I'm not really content with this, my own file format would be much easyer to handle. 
Let´'s see if I find a solution...
Daniel 

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--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, Daniel Krüger <daniel.b.krueger@w...> 
wrote:
> I have currently no time for further developing, but I plan to 
rewrite everything in c++ (less trouble with .ocx etc.) and add a 
patch editor for "Hidden Parameters". To the file format: Actually, 
the format depends on which kind of synth is selected in the setup 
menue. 16 patches for cz101/1000, 32 patches for cz3000/5000 and 64 
patches for cz1. Each patch contains the send request message. All in 
all I'm not really content with this, my own file format would be 
much easyer to handle. 
> Let´'s see if I find a solution...
> Daniel 

Daniel,

The following is an excerpt from a post I placed on another board.  
Note paragraph 2.  Any possibility of collaboration on software?  If 
not, perhaps I can tap into your Windows programming expertise.  
(BTW, I just dug out my old Pascal and C++ programs--circa 1991/1992!)

Steve

==================================
I am trying to get back into midi programming with a mind towards 
writing some nifty utilities . . . . Perhaps my first test will be a 
program to get, save, load, and put banks of multisetups. (I've done 
assembly langauge midi bulk data dump programming for the Commodore 
64 and for MS-DOS.

I don't know if I want to tackle a Windows User inteface. So I'll 
either do it an MS-DOS utility or try to find someone who does 
Windows. (Sorry, no Mac.)

Dr. Steve

Steve,
I decided to spend more time on playing my instruments than writing buggy software for them. So I think there is no chance for collaboration. But I'm glad to hear that you are going to write some midi stuff. You should consider writing a GUI, the commandline is just out of date! 
My tipp: Use crossplatform libraries and your programs will compile on windows, linux and in most cases even on mac. My favorites are:
-MIDIIO libs (manages all you midi input/output)  http://midiio.sapp.org/
-Improv (the same as MIDIIO with additional features)
-QT : library for GUI's . QT is a lot easier to program than f.e. Microsoft's MFC. QT programs will run on Windows and LINUX!!! www.trolltech.com
-WxWindows: another library for GUI, also multiplatform (linux, win, mac),
I don't know much about it, but it seams to be very recommandable.

Alway keep in mind: I'm no professional programmer and have only very basic 
konwledge about c++ and the librarys i mentioned above. So I'm not particular useful for your demand's. If you have questions, read the doc's of QT, they tell you everything about GUI programming.
Good luck!!
Daniel

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: steve_the_composer 
  To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 5:08 PM
  Subject: [CZsynth] Re: cz101 sysex dump? must backup patches! help!


  --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, Daniel Krüger <daniel.b.krueger@w...> 
  wrote:
  > I have currently no time for further developing, but I plan to 
  rewrite everything in c++ (less trouble with .ocx etc.) and add a 
  patch editor for "Hidden Parameters". To the file format: Actually, 
  the format depends on which kind of synth is selected in the setup 
  menue. 16 patches for cz101/1000, 32 patches for cz3000/5000 and 64 
  patches for cz1. Each patch contains the send request message. All in 
  all I'm not really content with this, my own file format would be 
  much easyer to handle. 
  > Let´'s see if I find a solution...
  > Daniel 

  Daniel,

  The following is an excerpt from a post I placed on another board.  
  Note paragraph 2.  Any possibility of collaboration on software?  If 
  not, perhaps I can tap into your Windows programming expertise.  
  (BTW, I just dug out my old Pascal and C++ programs--circa 1991/1992!)

  Steve

  ==================================
  I am trying to get back into midi programming with a mind towards 
  writing some nifty utilities . . . . Perhaps my first test will be a 
  program to get, save, load, and put banks of multisetups. (I've done 
  assembly langauge midi bulk data dump programming for the Commodore 
  64 and for MS-DOS.

  I don't know if I want to tackle a Windows User inteface. So I'll 
  either do it an MS-DOS utility or try to find someone who does 
  Windows. (Sorry, no Mac.)

  Dr. Steve


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