Casio CZ/ VZ/ FZ - Pro Series

On Wed, Sep 04, 2002 at 03:41:25PM -0000, jpkurki wrote:
> --- In CZsynth@y..., Eitan Shefer <eshefer@a...> wrote:
> > has anyone done a reaktor CZ emulation? 
> 
> I have no reactor (= overpriced for capabilities.. if you ask me), but

ah, welll.. it's pretty expensive, I agree..

> I use SynCmodular and SynthEdit. There is currently a prototype of
> Cz-101 on works with synthedit. It's not public yet and I'm testing it
> (current name is CzAlpha)

sounds cool..

> 
> It has 8-stage envelopes and Cz-waveforms about right (not noise and
> Ringmod). Synthedit has good PD-oscillator on basic pack (and yes,..
> it's curently freeware.. may become SW sometime though). 
> 
> For more info of Synthedit 
> see http://www.synthedit.com/
> and http://groups.yahoo.com/group/syntheditusers/

Thanks for the heads up, I'm DLing it and I'll test it over the weekend.

> > a few years ago I begun doing one, but never got to finish it. The idea
> > was to sample single cycle loops of ALL of the CZ waves and emulate the
> > ocilators by going thru the cycle loops.. thus emulating the "filter"
> > envelope.. I stopped doing it once I realized I had to sample, edit,
> > 32*100 of those cycle loops...
> 
> Does not sound good idea.. IMHO too much work and will not produce
> continuous sound flow.. Allthough those walues are entered as integers
> that system does count on floats.. (or fixed point).. So it would not
> be as smooth as original on waveform trasitions. 

I agree about it being too much work.. about the flow.. I remember there
were no problems with the flow. actually it was pretty cool, the
potential of real tweekability of the "filter" section of the CZ was
pretty probable. I initially checked the model with blocks of 10 samples
(instead of 100), and it sounded pretty good. IMHO it could be done. I
tryed to get NI interested in emulating the cz themselves, but in the
end nothing came of it.

> 
> Best chanse currently is Synthedit.. It has decent PD-synth generators
> (and about right waveforms).. 
>  
> > did anyone try something like that?
> > 
> > I was'nt sure how I would emulate the ringmod, though..
> 
> I'm sure it can be handled.. That synth sounds currently a bit too
> clean though.. How could it be made more rough like real CZ-101 ??? 

I remember reading someware that the CZ's ring mod is'nt a "real" ring
mod, per say, I don't remember the technicalities of it, though..

Eitan.

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