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> Hi,
>
> I'm mostly building sounds from scratch, but can't remove that Mod-Wheel->Vibrato
> connection. Checked the whole GUI including Control Matrix and turned off all FX.
> I'm using the AN200 Editor, is there some kind of global vibrato setting I'm not
> able to reach from within that software or is it hardwired connection?
>
> Thanx for your help!
>
> ...Summa

On 24 Mar 2005 at 16:57, Jon wrote:

>
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> --- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "Summa" <flotorian@f...> wrote: >
> Hi, > > I'm mostly building sounds from scratch, but can't remove that
> Mod-Wheel->Vibrato > connection. Checked the whole GUI including
> Control Matrix and turned off all FX. > I'm using the AN200 Editor, is
> there some kind of global vibrato setting I'm not > able to reach from
> within that software or is it hardwired connection? > > Thanx for your
> help! > > ...Summa
>
> You need to make certain the valus for Amod Depth (VCA), Fmod Depth
> (VCF) and Pmod Depth (for both VCO1 & VCO2) are set to '0' in your
> Voice to eliminate any modulation which would occur at Key On. There
> is no "global vibrato setting."
>
> Under the Ctrl Matrix you will find 'Source' assigned to A. MW and
> 'Param' set to any of Amod Depth, Fmod Depth and/or Pmod Depth -
> particluarly the latter - on MANY of the factory supplied Voices. A
> -/+ numeic value for Depth under the Ctrl Matrix serves as an offset
> to the programmed mod depth. A value of 'dirct' for Depth under the
> Ctrl Matrix is exactly that - a direct control of the mod depth.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Jon
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> Hi Jon,
>
> that's exactly the problem, I set every modulation to 0, cleared the Control
> Matrix and still having a modulation when moving the mod-wheel up and don't know
> how to eliminate it. I rather would like to use the MW for other things...
>
> ...Summa

>
> The only other option which occurs to me is Commn1 or Commn2 is set to
> 'Vari Param'.

> Why don't you upload the Voice in .an1 format - use AN1xEdit for this,
> you can get it from the files section here at Yaoo! Groups - and
> we''ll have a look...

On 24 Mar 2005 at 20:49, uralmoto2001 wrote:

>
>
> I have a plg150an installed in an s80. When using the plg150an board,
> the s80 has a default setting of Mwheel>pitch mod>10. This setting is
> adjusted in the host synth (s80). If there is a control edit screen
> on the AN200 itself, try looking there, and set the Mwheel>pmod amount
> to 0. Another thought(I haven't tried this); maybe you can counteract
> the hosts' default vibrato setting by making a control matrix
> assignment in AN edit: Mwheel>pitch mod> -10.
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--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "Summa" <flotorian@f...> wrote:

...In my case the default setting seems to be 5 and I as you
suggested I was able to
negate the effect with the control matrix...
>
>That would suck having to negate vibrato patch-at-a-time, but at
least it works. Maybe its just another "Yamaflaw"...

> On 24 Mar 2005 at 19:01, Jon wrote:
> >
> > The only other option which occurs to me is Commn1 or Commn2 is set to
> > 'Vari Param'.
>
> Where can I find those parameters?

> > Why don't you upload the Voice in .an1 format - use AN1xEdit for this,
> > you can get it from the files section here at Yaoo! Groups - and
> > we''ll have a look...
>
> It seems to me that all the voices react that way, even the ROM presets unless
> LFO speed is set to 0, but even then it sometimes introduce a slight pitch shift
> depending on the random start phase of the LFO wave. That's why I thought this
> could be some kind of common parameter...

> Then there has to be a settig for Pmod depth for VCO1 or VCO2. There
> is no global
> Vibrato seting.

On 26 Mar 2005 at 2:35, Ed Edwards wrote:

>
> > Then there has to be a settig for Pmod depth for VCO1 or VCO2. There
> > is no global Vibrato seting.
>
> Just to follow up on Jon's ideas:
>
> One way to start to "fix" your problem is to go the Matrix section and
> delete everything. Turn every Set to Off. After you do this, then
> learn how to route the controls to your preference and set up the
> patch the way you like it.
>
> One of the biggest mysteries of the AN series is the Depth parameter
> in the Matrix. You should try out the control very carefully after
> setting a Depth parameter. Sometimes the results can be
> unpredictable.
>
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> Hi Ed,
>
> as I mentioned before, I already cleared all entries of the control

> section (off - Off - Direct), unfortunately it's not helping at

> that all presets, not only my own sounds are showing that behavior.

> using another masterkeyboard with no luck...
> Even so I got the AN200 a few weeks ago, I have no problem

> parameters and even found a way to create nice voice and choir

> M->S sync together with Ringmod.
> I'm used to get along with rather complex beasts like FS1R or K5000

> Wheel->Vibrato thing is puzzling me and the AN200 Manual isn't

> when it comes to an overview of all the system settings.
>
>
> ...Summa

On 27 Mar 2005 at 3:31, Jon wrote:

>
>
> --- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "Summa" <flotorian@f...> wrote: >
Hi
> Ed, > > as I mentioned before, I already cleared all entries of the
> control matrix > section (off - Off - Direct), unfortunately it's
not
> helping at all. Other than > that all presets, not only my own
sounds
> are showing that behavior. I also tried > using another
masterkeyboard
> with no luck... > Even so I got the AN200 a few weeks ago, I have
no
> problem programming the AN200 > parameters and even found a way to
> create nice voice and choir sounds using VCO1 > M->S sync together
> with Ringmod. > I'm used to get along with rather complex beasts
like
> FS1R or K5000 but that Mod- > Wheel->Vibrato thing is puzzling me
and
> the AN200 Manual isn't quite helpfull > when it comes to an
overview
> of all the system settings. > > > ...Summa
>
>
> What happens when you zero out the modulations from the front panel
of
> the AN200?
>
> I've just reviewed the AN200 Owner's Manual - you'll find links to
it
> and other PDF manuals here:
>
> http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-list/links
>
> Chapter 9 LFO Modulation Tip 32-35 describe in detail how to make
> adjust. I fail to see any mention of the Ctrl Matrix listed in the
> Function Index on p. 110 - but I know this is accessible from the
AN
> Expert Editor sw. Unfortunately, I'm not on my home machine right
now
> to check this out, but it raises the concern us AN1x users are
trying
> to help AN200 users and we might not be using the same
nomenclature.
>
> Jon
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