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> None of these synths has the 2 buttons I want. I want one button to 
> normalize all the patches so they're the same volume. I want another 
> button to boost the patch for solos. Why is this so difficult?
> 
> Rainbow Jimmy

Yeah, agree totally. I have wanted that feature on many items,
like guitar pedals and synths. But really it is three things I think,
one button for normalizing all the patches, another for a different
vol for solos, and a third parameter setter that wil let you set 
the value for the two settings. Oh yeah...also that it will let you
revert back to individual when the buttons are off.

It'd be cool, though I don't know if any of them would listen,
to have a mailgroup that would include all the major synth
manufacturers with a kind of wish list....I mean, they are ultimitely
making this equipment for US the actual users/buyers. You'd think
they would want this kind of feedback. Sadly, alot don't seem to.
I know some folks might have some weird items on a "wish list" for
features that only 1 out of a thousand buyers would want, but 
mixed in there are some really great ideas like this one.

But Jimmy, I bet if you thought about it you could actually come up
with even more ideas for improvement?

Jim

On 25 juil. 2004, at 10:33, James Acker wrote:

>> None of these synths has the 2 buttons I want. I want one button to
>> normalize all the patches so they're the same volume. I want another
>> button to boost the patch for solos. Why is this so difficult?
>>
>> Rainbow Jimmy
>
> Yeah, agree totally. I have wanted that feature on many items,
> like guitar pedals and synths. But really it is three things I think,
> one button for normalizing all the patches, another for a different
> vol for solos, and a third parameter setter that wil let you set
> the value for the two settings. Oh yeah...also that it will let you
> revert back to individual when the buttons are off.

I think there are booster pedals that are made for guitar - how about 
one of those?  I think synth these days being digital, this feature on 
an instrument itself can be a bad thing.  Digital stuff never gets 
louder than 0dBFS, so your option is to trim down the non-solo part.  
That means, you are going to loose some 'bits' from your digital 
signal, and your non-solo part may sound wimpier.  This could be a 
problem in a music store, too - the synth will sound quieter without 
"solo boost" switch engaged.

Normalising patches would be too complex a task for a computer, I 
think.  You can't really tell how loud a signal is by looking at the 
peak levels, and how would you know how loud a patch is going to be 
when you could play 1 or 6 voice on a same patch?  What about the 
frequency response on PA?  Since this is a situation dependant problem, 
I think it's a musicians' job.

Anyway, I'm a bit disappointed by the NAMM show this time.  Did anyone 
find something interesting?

Keytar was funny, though.  :-p


-Yutaka

> > None of these synths has the 2 buttons I want. I want one button to
> > normalize all the patches so they're the same volume. I want another
> > button to boost the patch for solos. Why is this so difficult?

Whoa...
This is such a great idea - and I don't think I've ever seen the option on
anything, hardware or software.

Hurry up and get a patent on it Jimmy.  Then charge royalties to all the stupid
manufacturers that build but don't perform with their products.

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--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, Yutaka Nakamura <liquidbrain@n...> wrote:
> 
> Normalising patches would be too complex a task for a computer, I 
> think.  You can't really tell how loud a signal is by looking at the 
> peak levels, and how would you know how loud a patch is going to be 
> when you could play 1 or 6 voice on a same patch?  What about the 
> frequency response on PA?  Since this is a situation dependant problem, 
> I think it's a musicians' job.
> 

I agree with this thinking. 

> Anyway, I'm a bit disappointed by the NAMM show this time.  Did anyone 
> find something interesting?
> 

Not really disappointed because it's Summer NAMM and didn't expect much from it. 
AES is coming up this fall but the real fun is always Winter NAMM and the oh so cool 
Musik Messe.

Ableton Live 4.0 has been generating a lot of buzz on some forums, but I've so much 
software waiting for attention I can't see jumping into Live this year...

Korg is actually supporting the Legacy Collection with new updates - you know, the 
software package that was never going to get released to begin with ;-) Gotta love all 
those tweaks to the virtual Wavestation.

Obviously Roland is trying to boost sales of their entry level RS series by renaming 
them 'Juno' - hahaha

Yamaha seems to be releasing more of the same. Guess they're still riding high on the 
MOTIF series. Does anybody actually USE mLAN?!? 

> Keytar was funny, though.  :-p
> 

That IS bizarre http://trio.harmony-central.com/ramgen/SNAMM04/Keytar.rm

Jon

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are you going to be at winter NAMM next year?

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jon 
  To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 6:23 AM
  Subject: Re: [AN1x] new synths

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