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I thought the whole point of having a forum was to help people find 
stuff they need, rather than to massage the ego's of those who find 
it necessary to get some sort of feedback on their songs. Since this 
is highly subjective, it is therefore completely pointless and 
serves no purpose. Being able to find an editor or a piece of a 
missing puzzle is far more useful. So why then allow people to 
upload song files which are useless and then take the moral high 
ground and remove files that are actually useful. What is the point 
of that? If someone needs the AN200 editor, surely this is the place 
to find it. It certainly is not with Yamaha who regulary take over a 
month to come back to me with anything useful despite DAILY 
reminders. They may make pretty good instruments, but they have no 
idea about customer service. Oh and when I lost my AN200 CD-Rom, 
they wanted to charge me £20 for a new one despite having over 
£3,000 worth of Yamaha gear in my studio (and all the receipts) And 
then we get called the crooks for sharing a file? Ho Hum.

$0.02 ... when I joined the list, I asked members of the list to post 
their work here because I wanted to listen to the synths' sounds before 
I buy one of them. And people gave me such an useful feedback that now 
I'm starving for a AN200 =)

Daniel

--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "nuvalerium" <valerium@b...> wrote:
> I thought the whole point of having a forum was to help people find 
> stuff they need, rather than to massage the ego's of those who find 
> it necessary to get some sort of feedback on their songs. Since this 
> is highly subjective, it is therefore completely pointless and 
> serves no purpose. Being able to find an editor or a piece of a 
> missing puzzle is far more useful. So why then allow people to 
> upload song files which are useless and then take the moral high 
> ground and remove files that are actually useful. What is the point 
> of that?

If you take the time to review the thread I think you'll find the responses=
 contained 
URL's to individual web sites - not actual .mid or MP3 files uploaded to AN=
1x-list.

The Yamaha software in question is copyrighted and had not been made availa=
ble by 
Yamaha for distribution on the internet. If we make an exception 'just this=
 one time' 
than we raise expectations that perhaps we can make an exception next time =
- and 
the time after that and so on...at the end of the day somebody has to be th=
e grown 
up and say 'no.'

Considering the length of time I've moderated this list and the frequency a=
t which this 
topic has been expanded upon my position should should not come as a surpri=
se. 
And for what it's worth, it doesn't take a heck of a lot of imagination to =
find online 
resources - even at Yahoo! Groups - that will accomodate file sharing in va=
rying 
degree's of legitamcy.


 If someone needs the AN200 editor, surely this is the place 
> to find it. It certainly is not with Yamaha who regulary take over a 
> month to come back to me with anything useful despite DAILY 
> reminders. They may make pretty good instruments, but they have no 
> idea about customer service. Oh and when I lost my AN200 CD-Rom, 
> they wanted to charge me £20 for a new one despite having over 
> £3,000 worth of Yamaha gear in my studio (and all the receipts) And 
> then we get called the crooks for sharing a file? Ho Hum.

I don't recall anybody implying or accusing anybody of being a 'crook'. No =
doubt the 
£20 fee could be written off as a cost of doing business along with your ot=
her 
software licensing fee's. Check with your tax accountant.

regards,

Jon

--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "nuvalerium" <valerium@b...> wrote:
> I thought the whole point of having a forum was to help people find 
> stuff they need, rather than to massage the ego's of those who find 
> it necessary to get some sort of feedback on their songs. 

It is, and if one were to search back through the archives they would 
find much information about this topic.  Unfortunately, the answer is 
to call or e-mail Yamaha, and no one likes that.

Yamaha's phone support is *notoriously* bad most of the time. I 
contact them by e-mail, and I have never had a problem.

> Since this 
> is highly subjective, it is therefore completely pointless and 
> serves no purpose. Being able to find an editor or a piece of a 
> missing puzzle is far more useful. So why then allow people to 
> upload song files which are useless and then take the moral high 
> ground and remove files that are actually useful. What is the point 
> of that?

I would be careful calling other peoples song files useless...  
That's probably not going to endear you to anyone.

> If someone needs the AN200 editor, surely this is the place 
> to find it.

Nope.  contact YAMAHA by E-mail:  ycasupport @ yamaha.com  

> It certainly is not with Yamaha who regulary take over a 
> month to come back to me with anything useful despite DAILY 
> reminders. They may make pretty good instruments, but they have no 
> idea about customer service. Oh and when I lost my AN200 CD-Rom, 
> they wanted to charge me £20 for a new one despite having over 
> £3,000 worth of Yamaha gear in my studio (and all the receipts) And 
> then we get called the crooks for sharing a file? Ho Hum.

Sounds like you're talking to the wrong people.  Maybe that's why 
they don't seem to care.

I e-mailed yamaha and got the CD, for free, in 3 days.

The next time someone asks this question, the answer should 
be "search the archives"....