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Re: [AN1x] ion, MS2K, AN200

Re: [AN1x] ion, MS2K, AN200

2004-04-07 by Dale Kay

I just am not digging the fm out of my ION. I also don't really like the mod matrix it has to edit with. I hope the sysx data comes out soon along with some more midi info so I can make a front end to it to access some of that great programming a few of the other users tell me about.

I been told I was crazy when I said thin and ION together, now I see someone else who seems to ponder the same. Maybe I am not so crazy ? 

The ION seems best when it is feed to a filter queen or added too with effects (outboard). I do agree with you on the MS2k, it has a different sound and feel. Now the other bad boys you mention, well they are in a different class, both price and function wise.

I can't say anything about a An1x etc, having not heard one in real life, only samples and download music. 

Dale

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: tyler newman 
  To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 9:28 AM
  Subject: [AN1x] ion, MS2K, AN200


  hey-

  > ION and MS2k do not sound alike at all. I can get something similar but it is
  > not the same. With my ears, I say the ION has a thinner sound than the MS2k.
  > The more I work with the ION, I do learn more tricks with it.

  i have noticed that the ION is very difficult to blend with other
  instruments in my studio. it definitely has a thinner sound, or something.
  to my ears, it's just not cutting it. of course, it's up against some
  serious competition (Virus KB, An200, Novation KS-Rack, etc), so perhaps
  there's just more work to be done on it. after reading some of the posts
  here regarding other peoples experience with it, i've gone back to try more
  programming on it, but it's still eluding me somehow.

  the MS2k has a solid buzzy, much more raw sound to it. that's why i like my
  AN200 so much, it can be so many different things (buzzy & raw, smooth &
  silky). the Ion is good for FM type sounds though, enough so that i sold my
  Nord.

  - tyler / battery cage
  -[www.batterycage.com]

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Re: [AN1x] ion, MS2K, AN200

2004-04-08 by Jon

--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "Dale Kay" <admin@k...> wrote:
> I just am not digging the fm out of my ION. I also don't really like the mod matrix it 
has to edit with. I hope the sysx data comes out soon along with some more midi info 
so I can make a front end to it to access some of that great programming a few of the 
other users tell me about.

I haven't spent nearly enough time withthe ION to comment onthe FM aspect but I can 
say the Mod Matrix struck me as a little cludgey - not very intuitive. I find the Ctrl 
Matrix on the AN1x is a little more direct but I admit to having read the manual twice 
over to understand how the settings made in UTILITY/SETUP for Ctrl Device and Ctrl 
No. can interact with the Ctrl Matrix settings. That said, in practice it's never given me 
an issue.

Another quick comprarison - the ION arppegiator presets don't impress me much - - 
it's not that I that they were bad, they just didn't 'wow' me. Of course I'm also pretty 
bored with the AN1x Arp presets too...need to spend more time rolling my own with 
the Step Seq. Pet Peeve: I wish the Arp/Seq on the AN1x worked with LOCAL=OFF.

> 
> I been told I was crazy when I said thin and ION together, now I see someone else 
who seems to ponder the same. Maybe I am not so crazy ? 
> 
> The ION seems best when it is feed to a filter queen or added too with effects 
(outboard). I do agree with you on the MS2k, it has a different sound and feel. Now 
the other bad boys you mention, well they are in a different class, both price and 
function wise.
> 

I like the sound of both the ION and MS2K but as I commented earlier - I don't find 
either too similar to one another or an AN1x.

Jon

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