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Thanks for the help john!

I checked wich os i got and it seems like i have 1.01. I read 
something about 1.04, is this the newest os available? If so, can i 
get it from yamaha? I mean, i bought my an1x secondhand, why would 
they like to help me then? If i can, then what should i do? Do you 
know a email or a person i can contact or something? How did you do 
to obtain 1.04???

I figured out how to use the LFO`s and its pritty simple. Although i 
think its a little dissapointing that all the destinations are 
hardwired and not able to relink in the modmatrix. That would be good 
for creating really experimental sounds. Nevertheless i think it 
makes very good leads and basses and pretty good pads to!

Today when i powered up my An1x it behaved strange. First i got some 
louds pops and then when i played some tones some where like cut in 
half (like a note off instantly when i actually was holding the keys 
down). Then a kind of crackling noisy sound began sounding constantly 
for like 40 seconds, then i turned the an1x off, and back on and the 
crackling was still there but dissapeared after some 10 seconds. Then 
everything sounded fine. Have anyone have similiar experiences? It 
got me pretty worried now that i have no warranty and all. The only 
thing i now is that i had not used it for the whole day and the room 
was a bit cold when i powered it up. But still, its very strange!

Sofar i really like the sounds i can create with it but i think the 8 
control knobs are horrible. When other synths step 1-2 steps at a 
time (of 127) my an1x steps 3-5! Im thinking of open it up and clean 
around the iron pins and take the plastic knobs for a bath. Any 
advice on cleaning it? Everything else works fine though.

In total im sofar very happy with the an1x!

/Leo

(If anyone want a an1x user on icq my nr is 144551045)

Sorry But I can't  seem to find this in the Archive. Can someone explain
how you check which OS your AN1x is running? And also are any big
differences in the OS from 1.01 to 1.04?

Mike Berman
digiboy@...

--- In AN1x-list@y..., "electric_bubble" <leop@s...> wrote:
> Thanks for the help john!
> 
> I checked wich os i got and it seems like i have 1.01. I read 
> something about 1.04, is this the newest os available? If so, 
can i 
> get it from yamaha? I mean, i bought my an1x secondhand, 
why would 
> they like to help me then? If i can, then what should i do? Do 
you 
> know a email or a person i can contact or something? How did 
you do 
> to obtain 1.04???


Leo, you'll find answers to most of these questions documented 
in the Tips & Tricks section here at Yahoo! Groups:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-list/files/Tips%20and%20Tr
icks/

Just about everything you've mentioned iin this email s a known 
problem that can be corrected by having your AN1x serviced by 
Yamaha. I've had some of this work completed myself some 
time ago and the problems have never reoccurred (sp?)

You'll need to contact Yamaha Customer Assistance in your 
country to arrange for a return authorization number, shipping 
instruction, etc. I know that Yamaha offers limited tech support 
for 90-days to 2nd owners but I don't believe this applies to 
out-of-warranty service. Still, my experience with Yamaha has 
been positive and I'm certain your's will be too given the right 
approach, i.e., help them want to help you solve these problems.

regards,

Jon

Hi Leo,

Regarding 'snap, crackle, pops'...

Yes, a known issue (and possibly corrected with OS1.4???)

The trick I found to avoid it (and I've yet to experience it again in the
past two years), is to not switch the unit off while it is still sounding a
note eg. the long sustain left over from a string patch, or hitting the
arp/seq button to stop the sequencer.

From what I can gather, corruption occurs to the patch during the autosave
whenever the unit is powered down. Note it only seems to occur to the patch
that you were just using, and you can select other patches which appear
fine, but go back to that patch and the crackles return. Then for some
reason it disappears altogether.

We've always put it down to the 'analogue' circuitry warming up before its
first use each day. ;-)
   
And welcome to the list.

Phil
(...who must also chase up this OS ROM update before it's too late!)

From: "electric_bubble" <leop@...>
Reply-To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 23:24:58 -0000
To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AN1x-list] Getting the new OS

<snip>

Today when i powered up my An1x it behaved strange. First i got some
louds pops and then when i played some tones some where like cut in
half (like a note off instantly when i actually was holding the keys
down). Then a kind of crackling noisy sound began sounding constantly
for like 40 seconds, then i turned the an1x off, and back on and the
crackling was still there but dissapeared after some 10 seconds. Then
everything sounded fine. Have anyone have similiar experiences? It
got me pretty worried now that i have no warranty and all. The only
thing i now is that i had not used it for the whole day and the room
was a bit cold when i powered it up. But still, its very strange!

<snip>

--- In AN1x-list@y..., "Mike B (digiboy)" <digiboy@n...> wrote:
> 
> Sorry But I can't  seem to find this in the Archive. Can someone 
explain
> how you check which OS your AN1x is running? And also are 
any big
> differences in the OS from 1.01 to 1.04?
> 
> Mike Berman
> digiboy@n...

AFAIK you can only display the OS version at power up...

hold the '0', '-', and '+' key down while powering up. OS 1.04 fixes 
a few bugs in so far as an audible popping when using the Sync 
Delay and and intermittent, and inaccurate, low battery message 
experienced by some users. Check the Tips & Tricks section for 
a write up on replacing the EPROM chip (and check out Elson's 
photos to see what's what in the AN1x):

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-list/files/Tips%20and%20Tr
icks/

HTH,

Jon

>--- In AN1x-list@y..., "Mike B (digiboy)" <digiboy@n...> wrote:

>> Sorry But I can't  seem to find this in the Archive. Can someone
>explain
>> how you check which OS your AN1x is running? And also are
>any big
>AFAIK you can only display the OS version at power up...
>hold the '0', '-', and '+' key down while powering up.


Thanks! Looks like I have 1.02 and since I haven't experienced any major
problems, I guess I'm OK.

Mike Berman
digiboy@...

Well I tried several times and the few times I got an answer they told me to contact Yamaha in the Netherlands but these morrons never answered any of my mails.
Bastiaan van de Werk

http://www.geocities.com/basvandewerk/

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: jondl_2000 
  To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 1:07 AM
  Subject: [AN1x-list] Re: Getting the new OS


  --- In AN1x-list@y..., "electric_bubble" <leop@s...> wrote:
  > Thanks for the help john!
  > 
  > I checked wich os i got and it seems like i have 1.01. I read 
  > something about 1.04, is this the newest os available? If so, 
  can i 
  > get it from yamaha? I mean, i bought my an1x secondhand, 
  why would 
  > they like to help me then? If i can, then what should i do? Do 
  you 
  > know a email or a person i can contact or something? How did 
  you do 
  > to obtain 1.04???


  Leo, you'll find answers to most of these questions documented 
  in the Tips & Tricks section here at Yahoo! Groups:

  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-list/files/Tips%20and%20Tr
  icks/

  Just about everything you've mentioned iin this email s a known 
  problem that can be corrected by having your AN1x serviced by 
  Yamaha. I've had some of this work completed myself some 
  time ago and the problems have never reoccurred (sp?)

  You'll need to contact Yamaha Customer Assistance in your 
  country to arrange for a return authorization number, shipping 
  instruction, etc. I know that Yamaha offers limited tech support 
  for 90-days to 2nd owners but I don't believe this applies to 
  out-of-warranty service. Still, my experience with Yamaha has 
  been positive and I'm certain your's will be too given the right 
  approach, i.e., help them want to help you solve these problems.

  regards,

  Jon


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--- In AN1x-list@y..., "Bastiaan van de Werk" <bazziman@h...> 
wrote:
> Well I tried several times and the few times I got an answer 
they told me to contact Yamaha in the Netherlands but these 
morrons never answered any of my mails.


I found the Yamaha Netherlands web site from here:

http://www.yamahasynth.com/link/index.html

and found the following contact info:

"If you want to get in contact to your local dutch subsidiary,please 
find here the address:"


Yamaha Music Nederland
Clarissenhof 5b 
4133 AB Vianen
Tel.: +31(0)347 358040
Fax: +31(0)347 358060

Have you tried them at this number and spoken to a real person 
or have you only had email disappear into the abyss?

Jon


> Bastiaan van de Werk
> 
> http://www.geocities.com/basvandewerk/
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: jondl_2000 
>   To: AN1x-list@y... 
>   Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 1:07 AM
>   Subject: [AN1x-list] Re: Getting the new OS
> 
> 
>   --- In AN1x-list@y..., "electric_bubble" <leop@s...> wrote:
>   > Thanks for the help john!
>   > 
>   > I checked wich os i got and it seems like i have 1.01. I read 
>   > something about 1.04, is this the newest os available? If so, 
>   can i 
>   > get it from yamaha? I mean, i bought my an1x secondhand, 
>   why would 
>   > they like to help me then? If i can, then what should i do? Do 
>   you 
>   > know a email or a person i can contact or something? How 
did 
>   you do 
>   > to obtain 1.04???
> 
> 
>   Leo, you'll find answers to most of these questions 
documented 
>   in the Tips & Tricks section here at Yahoo! Groups:
> 
>   
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-list/files/Tips%20and%20Tr
>   icks/
> 
>   Just about everything you've mentioned iin this email s a 
known 
>   problem that can be corrected by having your AN1x serviced 
by 
>   Yamaha. I've had some of this work completed myself some 
>   time ago and the problems have never reoccurred (sp?)
> 
>   You'll need to contact Yamaha Customer Assistance in your 
>   country to arrange for a return authorization number, shipping 
>   instruction, etc. I know that Yamaha offers limited tech support 
>   for 90-days to 2nd owners but I don't believe this applies to 
>   out-of-warranty service. Still, my experience with Yamaha has 
>   been positive and I'm certain your's will be too given the right 
>   approach, i.e., help them want to help you solve these 
problems.
> 
>   regards,
> 
>   Jon
> 
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Just email......I bought my an1x in 2000..(januari) so it's been in my possession for 2 years....well I could always try couldn't I?

Bastiaan van de Werk

http://www.geocities.com/basvandewerk/

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: jondl_2000 
  To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 6:46 PM
  Subject: [AN1x-list] Re: Getting the new OS


  --- In AN1x-list@y..., "Bastiaan van de Werk" <bazziman@h...> 
  wrote:
  > Well I tried several times and the few times I got an answer 
  they told me to contact Yamaha in the Netherlands but these 
  morrons never answered any of my mails.


  I found the Yamaha Netherlands web site from here:

  http://www.yamahasynth.com/link/index.html

  and found the following contact info:

  "If you want to get in contact to your local dutch subsidiary,please 
  find here the address:"


  Yamaha Music Nederland
  Clarissenhof 5b 
  4133 AB Vianen
  Tel.: +31(0)347 358040
  Fax: +31(0)347 358060

  Have you tried them at this number and spoken to a real person 
  or have you only had email disappear into the abyss?

  Jon


  > Bastiaan van de Werk
  > 
  > http://www.geocities.com/basvandewerk/
  >   ----- Original Message ----- 
  >   From: jondl_2000 
  >   To: AN1x-list@y... 
  >   Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 1:07 AM
  >   Subject: [AN1x-list] Re: Getting the new OS
  > 
  > 
  >   --- In AN1x-list@y..., "electric_bubble" <leop@s...> wrote:
  >   > Thanks for the help john!
  >   > 
  >   > I checked wich os i got and it seems like i have 1.01. I read 
  >   > something about 1.04, is this the newest os available? If so, 
  >   can i 
  >   > get it from yamaha? I mean, i bought my an1x secondhand, 
  >   why would 
  >   > they like to help me then? If i can, then what should i do? Do 
  >   you 
  >   > know a email or a person i can contact or something? How 
  did 
  >   you do 
  >   > to obtain 1.04???
  > 
  > 
  >   Leo, you'll find answers to most of these questions 
  documented 
  >   in the Tips & Tricks section here at Yahoo! Groups:
  > 
  >   
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-list/files/Tips%20and%20Tr
  >   icks/
  > 
  >   Just about everything you've mentioned iin this email s a 
  known 
  >   problem that can be corrected by having your AN1x serviced 
  by 
  >   Yamaha. I've had some of this work completed myself some 
  >   time ago and the problems have never reoccurred (sp?)
  > 
  >   You'll need to contact Yamaha Customer Assistance in your 
  >   country to arrange for a return authorization number, shipping 
  >   instruction, etc. I know that Yamaha offers limited tech support 
  >   for 90-days to 2nd owners but I don't believe this applies to 
  >   out-of-warranty service. Still, my experience with Yamaha has 
  >   been positive and I'm certain your's will be too given the right 
  >   approach, i.e., help them want to help you solve these 
  problems.
  > 
  >   regards,
  > 
  >   Jon
  > 
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Hello,

1st tnx for the tips on ex5s
I know scsi is terrible but the arps (50 users) and the pattern 
seq for each key not to mention the nice efxs and original 
quality of the samples really make the ex5 appealing to me 

about Yamaha NL .. mmm mmm 
I called them 2 times for AN1x and EX5 updates 
very unfriendly and confused people 
basically they told me to ask to a shop dealer 
for the upgrades cos they have a special
catalog (expensive price list I guess he meant!)

I know a friendly shop in Noordwik .. I will try there ... 
in the past he gave me many free OS updates .. but for Roland gears  
lets hope and I will let u know .. 

is outrageous that we have to pay for bug fixes ! 

Regards
-------------------------------------ENV1-----ENV2---ENV3--------------
Andrea TONI                          VCO1 \    |      |
Science Operation and Data           VCO2-->--VCF--->VCA---->DUCATI 996 
Systems Division (SCI-SD)            VCO3 /    |      | 
-------------------------------------LFO1-----LFO2---LFO3--------------
email: Andrea.Toni@...  http://ssd.esa.int http://www.estec.esa.int

----- Original Message ----- 

From: "jondl_2000" <jondl_2000@...>
To: <AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 18:46 PM
Subject: [AN1x-list] Re: Getting the new OS


> --- In AN1x-list@y..., "Bastiaan van de Werk" <bazziman@h...>
> wrote:
> > Well I tried several times and the few times I got an answer
> they told me to contact Yamaha in the Netherlands but these
> morrons never answered any of my mails.
> 
> 
> I found the Yamaha Netherlands web site from here:
> 
> http://www.yamahasynth.com/link/index.html
> 
> and found the following contact info:
> 
> "If you want to get in contact to your local dutch subsidiary,please
> find here the address:"
> 
> 
> Yamaha Music Nederland
> Clarissenhof 5b
> 4133 AB Vianen
> Tel.: +31(0)347 358040
> Fax: +31(0)347 358060
> 
> Have you tried them at this number and spoken to a real person
> or have you only had email disappear into the abyss?
> 
> Jon

From: "Andrea TONI" <Andrea.Toni@...>

> about Yamaha NL .. mmm mmm
> I called them 2 times for AN1x and EX5 updates
> very unfriendly and confused people
> basically they told me to ask to a shop dealer
> for the upgrades cos they have a special
> catalog (expensive price list I guess he meant!)

Yamaha Netherlands is little more than a sales organisation. They also offer
training to dealers.

That's the corporate policy of Yamaha, or perhaps Yamaha Europe. There's not
much you can do about it.

- Peter

--- In AN1x-list@y..., "Andrea TONI" <Andrea.Toni@e...> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> 1st tnx for the tips on ex5s
> I know scsi is terrible but the arps (50 users) and the pattern 
> seq for each key not to mention the nice efxs and original 
> quality of the samples really make the ex5 appealing to me 
> 
> about Yamaha NL .. mmm mmm 
> I called them 2 times for AN1x and EX5 updates 
> very unfriendly and confused people 
> basically they told me to ask to a shop dealer 
> for the upgrades cos they have a special
> catalog (expensive price list I guess he meant!)
> 
> I know a friendly shop in Noordwik .. I will try there ... 
> in the past he gave me many free OS updates .. but for Roland 
gears  
> lets hope and I will let u know .. 
> 
> is outrageous that we have to pay for bug fixes ! 
> 

How do you *know* you have to pay for the EPROM when you 
haven't even spoken to the dealer yet? You're jumping the gun, 
IMO. Let us know how it turns out. Has anybody else spoken with 
Yamaha NL?

Here in the US Yamaha provided me the EPROM free of charge 
(and out of warranty too.) I expected to pay for shipping and 
handling but there was no charge for that either.


regards,

Jon

> Regards
> -------------------------------------ENV1-----ENV2---ENV3--------------
> Andrea TONI                          VCO1 \    |      |
> Science Operation and Data           
VCO2-->--VCF--->VCA---->DUCATI 996 
> Systems Division (SCI-SD)            VCO3 /    |      | 
> -------------------------------------LFO1-----LFO2---LFO3--------------
> email: Andrea.Toni@e...  http://ssd.esa.int 
http://www.estec.esa.int
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "jondl_2000" <jondl_2000@y...>
> To: <AN1x-list@y...>
> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 18:46 PM
> Subject: [AN1x-list] Re: Getting the new OS
> 
> 
> > --- In AN1x-list@y..., "Bastiaan van de Werk" <bazziman@h...>
> > wrote:
> > > Well I tried several times and the few times I got an answer
> > they told me to contact Yamaha in the Netherlands but these
> > morrons never answered any of my mails.
> > 
> > 
> > I found the Yamaha Netherlands web site from here:
> > 
> > http://www.yamahasynth.com/link/index.html
> > 
> > and found the following contact info:
> > 
> > "If you want to get in contact to your local dutch 
subsidiary,please
> > find here the address:"
> > 
> > 
> > Yamaha Music Nederland
> > Clarissenhof 5b
> > 4133 AB Vianen
> > Tel.: +31(0)347 358040
> > Fax: +31(0)347 358060
> > 
> > Have you tried them at this number and spoken to a real 
person

> > or have you only had email disappear into the abyss?
> > 
> > Jon

Well, acoording to dutch consumer law the show is responsible for upgrades, bugfixes etc...so it does make a little sense that they tell you to get your stuff there....aargh....frustrating since I bought my synth all the way in A'dam..

Bastiaan van de Werk

http://www.geocities.com/basvandewerk/

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: jondl_2000 
  To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 8:22 PM
  Subject: [AN1x-list] Re: Getting the new OS


  --- In AN1x-list@y..., "Andrea TONI" <Andrea.Toni@e...> wrote:
  > 
  > Hello,
  > 
  > 1st tnx for the tips on ex5s
  > I know scsi is terrible but the arps (50 users) and the pattern 
  > seq for each key not to mention the nice efxs and original 
  > quality of the samples really make the ex5 appealing to me 
  > 
  > about Yamaha NL .. mmm mmm 
  > I called them 2 times for AN1x and EX5 updates 
  > very unfriendly and confused people 
  > basically they told me to ask to a shop dealer 
  > for the upgrades cos they have a special
  > catalog (expensive price list I guess he meant!)
  > 
  > I know a friendly shop in Noordwik .. I will try there ... 
  > in the past he gave me many free OS updates .. but for Roland 
  gears  
  > lets hope and I will let u know .. 
  > 
  > is outrageous that we have to pay for bug fixes ! 
  > 

  How do you *know* you have to pay for the EPROM when you 
  haven't even spoken to the dealer yet? You're jumping the gun, 
  IMO. Let us know how it turns out. Has anybody else spoken with 
  Yamaha NL?

  Here in the US Yamaha provided me the EPROM free of charge 
  (and out of warranty too.) I expected to pay for shipping and 
  handling but there was no charge for that either.


  regards,

  Jon

  > Regards
  > -------------------------------------ENV1-----ENV2---ENV3--------------
  > Andrea TONI                          VCO1 \    |      |
  > Science Operation and Data           
  VCO2-->--VCF--->VCA---->DUCATI 996 
  > Systems Division (SCI-SD)            VCO3 /    |      | 
  > -------------------------------------LFO1-----LFO2---LFO3--------------
  > email: Andrea.Toni@e...  http://ssd.esa.int 
  http://www.estec.esa.int
  > 
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: "jondl_2000" <jondl_2000@y...>
  > To: <AN1x-list@y...>
  > Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 18:46 PM
  > Subject: [AN1x-list] Re: Getting the new OS
  > 
  > 
  > > --- In AN1x-list@y..., "Bastiaan van de Werk" <bazziman@h...>
  > > wrote:
  > > > Well I tried several times and the few times I got an answer
  > > they told me to contact Yamaha in the Netherlands but these
  > > morrons never answered any of my mails.
  > > 
  > > 
  > > I found the Yamaha Netherlands web site from here:
  > > 
  > > http://www.yamahasynth.com/link/index.html
  > > 
  > > and found the following contact info:
  > > 
  > > "If you want to get in contact to your local dutch 
  subsidiary,please
  > > find here the address:"
  > > 
  > > 
  > > Yamaha Music Nederland
  > > Clarissenhof 5b
  > > 4133 AB Vianen
  > > Tel.: +31(0)347 358040
  > > Fax: +31(0)347 358060
  > > 
  > > Have you tried them at this number and spoken to a real 
  person
  > > or have you only had email disappear into the abyss?
  > > 
  > > Jon


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From: "Bastiaan van de Werk" <bazziman@...>

> Well, acoording to dutch consumer law the show is responsible for
upgrades, bugfixes etc...so it does make a little sense that they tell you
to get your stuff there....aargh....frustrating since I bought my synth all
the way in A'dam..

Any Yamaha dealer will help you. They're not being difficult about that.
It's just that the national organisation won't help you directly, because
they're not equipped for it.

My personal experience with Yamaha Netherlands is very positive. Guess where
I got my copy of the technical reference manual of the EX5 from?

- Peter

Ok, I'll give it one more try...thanks

Bastiaan van de Werk

http://www.geocities.com/basvandewerk/

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Peter Korsten 
  To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 10:08 PM
  Subject: Re: [AN1x-list] Re: Getting the new OS


  From: "Bastiaan van de Werk" <bazziman@...>

  > Well, acoording to dutch consumer law the show is responsible for
  upgrades, bugfixes etc...so it does make a little sense that they tell you
  to get your stuff there....aargh....frustrating since I bought my synth all
  the way in A'dam..

  Any Yamaha dealer will help you. They're not being difficult about that.
  It's just that the national organisation won't help you directly, because
  they're not equipped for it.

  My personal experience with Yamaha Netherlands is very positive. Guess where
  I got my copy of the technical reference manual of the EX5 from?

  - Peter


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