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2001-10-03 by Scott Bradley

Hello list !!!

I've just joined the list and I just bought an AN1X off EBay for 270 English
pounds, which was quite a bargain I thought.

I also have a Waldorf MicroQ, Novation Super Bass Station, Roland Juno 6,
Roland JV1080, Yamaha A4000 and a DJX(Which I'm getting rid of).

Anyway I've had the AN1X for 2 days now and I must say I'm pretty impressed,
not as good as my Waldorf but still a worthwhile addition. I've not really
done much with it yet except play with the presets, some are good and some
bad. I like the scene morphing functions, that seems like a great feature.

I installed the editor on my PC and to be honest I was a little lost, but
that'll take time I guess.
It's not that I don't understand subtractive synthesis, I can edit my MicroQ
fine, just the layout of the editor confused me. I must say the oscillators
sound a little weedy on there own, but still it's a very handy synth and I'm
glad I bought it as my master controller.

Well I just thought I'd introduce myself and I hope some of you can share
some of your thoughts on the keyboard.

Cheers

Scott

Re: Hello

2001-10-03 by jondl_2000@yahoo.com

--- In AN1x-list@y..., "Scott Bradley" <s.m.bradley@d...> wrote:

> Hello list !!!
>
>
> I've just joined the list and I just bought an AN1X off EBay for 270 English
> pounds, which was quite a bargain I thought.

Sounds like a good deal.

>
> Well I just thought I'd introduce myself and I hope some of you can share
> some of your thoughts on the keyboard.
>
>

Welcome to the list. Feel free to use/contribute as much as like from
the Files section:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-list/files

and there are plenty of (hopefully) useful Links too:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-list/links

regards,

Jon

RE: [AN1x-list] Re: Hello

2001-10-03 by Scott Bradley

Cheers thanks.

Which model of AN?? do most people have on this list ?

And how do they all compare ?

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> --- In AN1x-list@y..., "Scott Bradley" <s.m.bradley@d...> wrote:
> > Hello list !!!
> >
> >
> > I've just joined the list and I just bought an AN1X off EBay
> for 270 English
> > pounds, which was quite a bargain I thought.
>
> Sounds like a good deal.
>
> >
> > Well I just thought I'd introduce myself and I hope some of you
> can share
> > some of your thoughts on the keyboard.
> >
> >
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> Welcome to the list. Feel free to use/contribute as much as like from
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> regards,
>
> Jon
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Re: Hello

2001-10-03 by Thomas

--- In AN1x-list@y..., "Scott Bradley" <s.m.bradley@d...> wrote:

> Cheers thanks.
>
>
> Which model of AN?? do most people have on this list ?

I would still the AN1x, since the AN200 came out just this year and
the AN-PLG is also not so wide spread either.

>
>
> And how do they all compare ?

AN1x = 2 x AN200/150PLG-AN

Basically.

Welcome to the list.
Why do you think the AN1x sounds not as good as the uQ? To my ears
their were sonically completely different. The uQ sharper, ok with
those five oscillators, my grandma could do fat basses...;)..but
otherwise i think the AN1x competes nicely with all the other VA´s
out there.
I guess you need to listen to some of the patches off the list. I
recommend to start with the "best of"-bank first.
The JDLX-banks are also quite nice (good job, Jon!).
--Tom

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> > --- In AN1x-list@y..., "Scott Bradley" <s.m.bradley@d...> wrote:
> > > Hello list !!!
> > >
> > >
> > > I've just joined the list and I just bought an AN1X off EBay
> > for 270 English
> > > pounds, which was quite a bargain I thought.
> >
> > Sounds like a good deal.
> >
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> > > Well I just thought I'd introduce myself and I hope some of you
> > can share
> > > some of your thoughts on the keyboard.
> > >
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> >
> > Welcome to the list. Feel free to use/contribute as much as like

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Re: [AN1x-list] Re: Hello

2001-10-03 by Ronald

Hello Scott,

despite I am ONLY an200 owner is nice to say HI!

Piotr

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> Cheers thanks.
>
>
> Which model of AN?? do most people have on this list ?
>
>
> And how do they all compare ?
>
>
>
>
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> >
> > --- In AN1x-list@y..., "Scott Bradley" <s.m.bradley@d...> wrote:
> > > Hello list !!!
> > >
> > >
> > > I've just joined the list and I just bought an AN1X off EBay
> > for 270 English
> > > pounds, which was quite a bargain I thought.
> >
> > Sounds like a good deal.
> >
> > >
> > > Well I just thought I'd introduce myself and I hope some of you
> > can share
> > > some of your thoughts on the keyboard.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Welcome to the list. Feel free to use/contribute as much as like from
> > the Files section:
> >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-list/files
> >
> > and there are plenty of (hopefully) useful Links too:
> >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-list/links
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Jon
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Re: [AN1x-list] Re: Hello

2001-10-03 by Bastiaan van de Werk

yeah...and my an1x has lot's of those black and white button thingies that the other boards don't have... an200 looks like a dodle to program tho...

hey p, when can we hear some nifty tracks of yours? (with no notes on the 1st beat :) )

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Re: [AN1x-list] Hello

2001-10-03 by Erkki Männikkö

Hello Scott

Scene morphing is the way to go in my mind.
You don´t need any knowledege about programming synths and you can find
some very cool sound that way.
Throw in some FM and there you go...

(ab)using the effects block of the an1x can help you find new kind of
sounds.

Erkki

Re: [AN1x-list] Hello

2001-10-04 by Phil

Hi Scott,

Welcome to the list! :-)

"...I've just joined the list and I just bought an AN1X off EBay for 270
English pounds, which was quite a bargain I thought."

Sounds like great price. I'm weighing up whether to sell mine. (Don't worry,
there's nothing wrong with it!) AN1x's are few and far between on the
second-hand market these days. I was thinking mine might fetch AUS$1000
(US$500 / UK£350). Because our (Aussie) dollar is so poor these days, new
prices are continually on the rise and therefore maintaining a healthy
resale value (for those that bought cheap).

"...I must say the oscillators sound a little weedy on their own."

Try boosting the "Feedback" control (in the VCA section). Also, when in
Unison mode (see "Layer"), you can increase the "Detune" amount (see
top-right of the edit menu). Lastly, the "Edge" control (for both VCO1 and
VCO2) can make a dramatic difference to the tone.

"...Well I just thought I'd introduce myself and I hope some of you can
share some of your thoughts on the keyboard."

If intimate discussions about wall-warts (power supplies) are right up your
alley, then you're sure to fit right in. ;-) Seriously though, if you have
any probs, post away.

Phil

RE: [AN1x-list] Re: Hello

2001-10-04 by Scott Bradley

> Basically.
>
> Welcome to the list.
> Why do you think the AN1x sounds not as good as the uQ? To my ears
> their were sonically completely different. The uQ sharper, ok with
> those five oscillators, my grandma could do fat basses...;)

Yes a good box !!! I'd advise anyone into programming patches to get one !!

> ..but
> otherwise i think the AN1x competes nicely with all the other VA´s
> out there.

Remember it was an older VA, bought out to compete with the JP8000 which it
probably does very well.

Don't get me wrong I'm glad I got it and it makes a great controller.

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> I guess you need to listen to some of the patches off the list. I
> recommend to start with the "best of"-bank first.
> The JDLX-banks are also quite nice (good job, Jon!).

I've downloaded some patches and yes I am impressed, I even had a go a
designing my own last night but ....

Am I wrong in saying that the AN1X cannot do Sine or Triangle Oscillators ?
Sure there must be a way.

What I found was that the Scenes, Free EG, FX and Arp are great features,
they are what make the synth for me, without them the synth sounds pretty
weak, but hey it's just a different angle on sound creation and with them
you can have some great fun. The MicroQ is kinda opposite to this, it's FX
are poor, it's arp isn't great and it doesn't have Scenes or FreeEG but it
is outstanding at Phat patches with no need for FX or Scenes. I'd say the
AN1X's strengths lie in it's ability to make great phrases and sequences (if
you catch my drift).

Anyway I've had great fun messing around with it the past few nights.

Cheers

Scott

Oscillators (was-->Re: [AN1x-list] Re: Hello)

2001-10-04 by Phil

Hi there again Scott,

"...Am I wrong in saying that the AN1X cannot do Sine or Triangle
Oscillators? Sure there must be a way."

- No dedicated Triangle but you may be able to extract a similar sound from
one of the mix/inner/pulse settings.

- For Sine, the "Edge" control (for both VCO1 and VCO2) that I mentioned
earlier warps the waveform into a sine wave.

Hope that helps,

Phil

RE: Oscillators (was-->Re: [AN1x-list] Re: Hello)

2001-10-04 by Scott Bradley

> - No dedicated Triangle but you may be able to extract a similar
> sound from
> one of the mix/inner/pulse settings.

What exactly are the mix/inner settings ?
I've not read my manual through yet peoperly, but a quick run down would be
helpfull

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> - For Sine, the "Edge" control (for both VCO1 and VCO2) that I mentioned
> earlier warps the waveform into a sine wave.

Sounds intertesting, what is the edge control exactly ?

Cheers

Scott

Re: Oscillators (was-->Re: [AN1x-list] Re: Hello)

2001-10-04 by Bruce Wahler

At 09:13 P 10/4/2001 +1000, you wrote:

>Hi there again Scott,
>
>"...Am I wrong in saying that the AN1X cannot do Sine or Triangle
>Oscillators? Sure there must be a way."
>
>
>- No dedicated Triangle but you may be able to extract a similar sound from
>one of the mix/inner/pulse settings.

The Edge control can also give triangle-like sounds, when used with a 50%
pulse wave. From a technical point of view, a triangle and a square wave
are similar, but the triangle has less high frequency content:

Square = f1 + 1/3 * f3 + 1/5 * f5 + 1/7 * f7 + ...

Triangle = f1 + 1/9 * f3 + 1/25 * f5 + 1/49 * f7 + ...

Turning the Edge to 0 makes a sine wave; turning it to 20-50 makes a
triangle-like wave.

Regards,

-BW

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RE: Oscillators (was-->Re: [AN1x-list] Re: Hello)

2001-10-04 by Scott Bradley

Cheers I knew there'd be a way !!!

What other equipment are people using out there ?

And what sort of tunes are you making ?

cheers

Scott

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> The Edge control can also give triangle-like sounds, when used with a 50%
> pulse wave. From a technical point of view, a triangle and a square wave
> are similar, but the triangle has less high frequency content:
>
> Square = f1 + 1/3 * f3 + 1/5 * f5 + 1/7 * f7 + ...
>
> Triangle = f1 + 1/9 * f3 + 1/25 * f5 + 1/49 * f7 + ...
>
> Turning the Edge to 0 makes a sine wave; turning it to 20-50 makes a
> triangle-like wave.
>

Re: Hello

2001-10-04 by Bruce Wahler

Scott,

The AN1x is a multi-layered beast, and while it's not fascinating reading,
it does help to at least skim the manual from cover to cover. There's a
lot of possibility waiting inside the synth, and some of it isn't obvious
at first glance. When I first got my AN1x, I thought of it as a simple
digital Minimoog clone -- I've been playing synths since the early 70's,
and cut my teeth on the Minimoog and the Putney VCS3 -- but there are lots
of more possibilities than that. IMHO, here are some of the nuggets that
lie in wait, once you decide to get in there and learn all the possibilities:

Edge Control -- morphs the wave shape from a sine wave to the chosen wave,
controlling the harmonic content of the result; takes a 50% pulse wave from
a sine to a triangle to a "soft" square wave to a "classic" analog square
wave, to a DCO (rather than VCO) edge.

Free EG -- allows the recording of up to four real-time adjustments, to add
timbre changes, fading, etc. without the need for an extra set of
hands. This feature is useful to make changes that sync to the beat of a
song, and for modulating the oscillator sync into almost "talk box" effects.

Arpeggiator -- while this has always been an interesting feature to have
lying around, most of the synths I've used had about eight patterns. The
AN1x includes quite a few more, including some techno and bass line
variations that may come in handy.

Step Sequencer -- at first, this seems like a limited feature -- only
16-steps (32 would have been better) -- but once you realize that in
addition to the one sequence per patch, there are another 128 sequences
which can be linked to any patch and chosen from the keyboard, the
possibilities open up a bit. Also, the sequence (and arpeggiator) can be
sent to other synths via MIDI; I use this to add percussion elements from
my Alesis S4 to songs.

Modulation -- each patch allows for up to 16 sources of modulation (per
scene), chosen from a pretty large list of sources, to alter another large
list of destinations. In effect, the AN1x is something of a modular synth,
without the hassle of patch cords!

There are other features I could discuss, but my point is not to write the
AN1x as a one-dimensional instrument until you try all of its possibilities.

Regards,

-BW

--
Bruce Wahler
Design Consultant
Ashby Solutions
www.ashbysolutions.com
CloneWheel Support Group moderator
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RE: [AN1x-list] Re: Hello

2001-10-04 by Scott Bradley

I did start to flick through and yes I will read it, just needed to play
with it first.

I'm not writing it off I just paid 270 quid for it, I want to get as much
out of it as I can don't worry.

But thanks for the pointers !!! I'm gonna take a look at the edge control
tonight.

I respect what you say, you seem to have a lot of history ... synth wise.

Cheers

Scott

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> Scott,
>
> The AN1x is a multi-layered beast, and while it's not fascinating
> reading,
> it does help to at least skim the manual from cover to cover. There's a
> lot of possibility waiting inside the synth, and some of it isn't obvious
> at first glance. When I first got my AN1x, I thought of it as a simple
> digital Minimoog clone -- I've been playing synths since the early 70's,
> and cut my teeth on the Minimoog and the Putney VCS3 -- but there
> are lots
> of more possibilities than that. IMHO, here are some of the nuggets that
> lie in wait, once you decide to get in there and learn all the
> possibilities:
>
> Edge Control -- morphs the wave shape from a sine wave to the
> chosen wave,
> controlling the harmonic content of the result; takes a 50% pulse
> wave from
> a sine to a triangle to a "soft" square wave to a "classic" analog square
> wave, to a DCO (rather than VCO) edge.
>
> Free EG -- allows the recording of up to four real-time
> adjustments, to add
> timbre changes, fading, etc. without the need for an extra set of
> hands. This feature is useful to make changes that sync to the beat of a
> song, and for modulating the oscillator sync into almost "talk
> box" effects.
>
> Arpeggiator -- while this has always been an interesting feature to have
> lying around, most of the synths I've used had about eight patterns. The
> AN1x includes quite a few more, including some techno and bass line
> variations that may come in handy.
>
> Step Sequencer -- at first, this seems like a limited feature -- only
> 16-steps (32 would have been better) -- but once you realize that in
> addition to the one sequence per patch, there are another 128 sequences
> which can be linked to any patch and chosen from the keyboard, the
> possibilities open up a bit. Also, the sequence (and arpeggiator) can be
> sent to other synths via MIDI; I use this to add percussion elements from
> my Alesis S4 to songs.
>
> Modulation -- each patch allows for up to 16 sources of modulation (per
> scene), chosen from a pretty large list of sources, to alter
> another large
> list of destinations. In effect, the AN1x is something of a
> modular synth,
> without the hassle of patch cords!
>
> There are other features I could discuss, but my point is not to
> write the
> AN1x as a one-dimensional instrument until you try all of its
> possibilities.
>
> Regards,
>
> -BW
>
> --
> Bruce Wahler
> Design Consultant
> Ashby Solutions
> www.ashbysolutions.com
> CloneWheel Support Group moderator
> 978.386.7389 voice
> 978.964.0547 fax
> bruce@...
>
>
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Oscillators (was-->Re: [AN1x-list] Re: Hello)

2001-10-04 by Thomas

--- In AN1x-list@y..., "Scott Bradley" <s.m.bradley@d...> wrote:

> Cheers I knew there'd be a way !!!
>
> What other equipment are people using out there ?

AN1x, Nord Micro Modular, XBase09, RS7000, DMT8, SE50.

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> And what sort of tunes are you making ?

Weird tunes, krasse tunes, ambient, chill out, minimal, techno, Jazzy
Dub, Dubby Jazz, kranke tunes.

Tune out,

--Tom

Re: Oscillators (was-->Re: [AN1x-list] Re: Hello)

2001-10-04 by Patrik Rydberg

> What other equipment are people using out there ?

Yamaha S80 + PLG150-AN
Clavia NordModular Key (Expanded)
Clavia MicroModular
Casio HT-3000 =)

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> And what sort of tunes are you making ?

On my own, I mostly make strange synth music. I also make some less strange
synth music and some remixes, together with my friend David Lilja.

Have a look at:
www.cutpaste.net

Regards

/Patrik

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Re: [AN1x-list] Re: Hello

2001-10-04 by Peter Korsten

From: "Scott Bradley" <s.m.bradley@...>

> Remember it was an older VA, bought out to compete with the JP8000 which

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> probably does very well.

Given the development time of such a product - and it was a whole new area
for both Roland and Yamaha - I doubt that the prime criterion of the AN1x
was to compete with the JP8000. Although it could be that the Japanese have
some industrial espionage going on, or leaks within their design department.

If anything, both look like a reaction to the Nord Lead.

- Peter

Re: Hello

2001-10-04 by Thomas

--- In AN1x-list@y..., "Peter Korsten" <peterk@i...> wrote:

> I doubt that the prime criterion of the AN1x
> was to compete with the JP8000.

Actually i´ve heard that one of the designers of the Sequential
Prophet 5 was part of the engineering team for the AN1x...

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> If anything, both look like a reaction to the Nord Lead.

That´s for sure!

--tom