The Yamaha AN1x Synthesizer mailing list

--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Wahler <bruce@a...> wrote:
> Hi Jon,
> 
> >I'm not certain I understand this comment. How else would 
> >AN1xEdit Transmit/Receive if the AN1x didn't have a bulk dump 
> >MIDI Command? Are you differentiating between a possible MIDI 
> >CC or NRPN equivalent for a bulk dump vs. SysEx? See pages 
> >13-15 of the AN1x Data List - I think you can hobble together a 
> >SysEx bulk dump request from this info.
> 
> The AN1x has a bulk dump packet definition, but it doesn't have a 
bulk dump command.  Take a look at the SysEx:  The AN1x doesn't have 
the kind of all-out, "give me what you got" bulk dump command the way 
most MIDI gear has.  It has commands that dump a single patch or 
sequence, and certain subset dumps, but no Dump All Data command.
> 

Right, OK. I made a 2nd look at page 13 of the Data List and 'see' 
what you're saying. 

> I'm sure that you can cobble together a series of AN1x MIDI 
commands that amount to a bulk dump; in fact, that's what AN1xEdit 
does when you Select All.  But, that's exactly the problem -- you 
can't just send them all at once; you have to wait for the reply 
before sending the next one.  Any time we have an orchestrated 
conversation where you have to say something, then be quiet until I 
give a certain reply, then talk again, etc., there's a possibility of 
things going awry.  Look at what happens in movies and TV:  You get 
blooper reels.  :^)  Unfortunately, MIDI blooper reels are rarely 
that funny.  And because the AN1x sends so much data -- 3.5x the 
amount of my Alesis QSR, and 15x the amount of my Korg BX3 -- there's 
an even greater chance of something getting lost or out of sync.  
Like I said, I don't really know who is at fault -- Win2K, the USB 
driver, AN1xEdit, or a combination of the three -- but I know that 
it's not always smooth sailing.
> 

Right.

> On the other side of things, after I send an All Dump Request to my 
QSR or BX3, all I have to do is sit there and let it vent until I see 
no more data.  I don't even really have to know how big the data dump 
is, as long as I wait a long time.  That's what I wish the AN1x did; 
I'm sure that it would have made Gary's life easier when he was 
coding.
> 

Ok, so this is an ease of use thing - you simply want to be able to 
initiate the Bulk Dump remotely rather than from the AN1x front panel 
AND the USB 'issue' compounds the problem for you. I get it now.

regards,

Jon