THANKS! We crossed each other...I was writing a reply to your earlier mail and as soon as I sent it I saw this one!
Good suggestion, I will try narrowning down, only using one cable, etc.
I will let you know what happens! Thanks again, that is really useful info!
Jim
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-James R. Acker-
----- Original Message -----
From: "Reggie" <reggie@...>
To: <An1x-list@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: [AN1x] MIDI problems...HELP!
> OK, so, I checked the midi output of the crappy SB card on my other PC,
> and it is sending out 24 'bank' messages on channel 16.
>
> 0011E38A 4 BF 00 00 16 -- CC: Bank MSB
> 0011E38B 4 BF 00 00 16 -- CC: Bank MSB
> 0011E38B 4 BF 00 00 16 -- CC: Bank MSB
> 0011E38C 4 BF 00 00 16 -- CC: Bank MSB
> 0011E38C 4 BF 00 00 16 -- CC: Bank MSB
> 0011E38D 4 BF 00 00 16 -- CC: Bank MSB
> 0011E391 4 BF 00 00 16 -- CC: Bank MSB
> 0011E391 4 BF 00 00 16 -- CC: Bank MSB
> 0011E391 4 BF 00 00 16 -- CC: Bank MSB
> 0011E391 4 BF 00 00 16 -- CC: Bank MSB
> 0011E391 4 BF 00 00 16 -- CC: Bank MSB
> 0011E391 4 BF 00 00 16 -- CC: Bank MSB
> 0011E391 4 BF 00 00 16 -- CC: Bank MSB
> 0011E392 4 BF 00 00 16 -- CC: Bank MSB
> 0011E393 4 BF 00 00 16 -- CC: Bank MSB
> 0011E393 4 BF 00 00 16 -- CC: Bank MSB
> 0011E394 4 BF 00 00 16 -- CC: Bank MSB
> 0011E394 4 BF 00 00 16 -- CC: Bank MSB
> 0011E395 4 BF 00 00 16 -- CC: Bank MSB
> 0011E396 4 BF 00 00 16 -- CC: Bank MSB
> 0011E396 4 BF 00 00 16 -- CC: Bank MSB
> 0011E397 4 BF 00 00 16 -- CC: Bank MSB
> 0011E397 4 BF 00 00 16 -- CC: Bank MSB
>
> But it only does this from a 'Cold' boot. Doing a plain restart does
> nothing, so I suspect that it is a spike through the card when it gets
> it's initial power.
>
> I suggest that you try plugging in the midi out of the card to the midi
> in only on the AN1x (Don't connect the other one) AFTER the PC has
> booted. That way you can test just the output once all the spurious
> junk has gone out of the cable. Once the bootup junk has gone there is
> no other midi data coming from the SB PCI card.
>
> Now you know that it is a load of 'Bank' messages at least you can
> filter it from the AN1x.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> In article <$u2J$PENTl38EwEU@...>, Reggie
> <reggie@...> writes
> >What Soundblaster card is it? I've got a PCI128 I think (Can't
> >remember, it's working OK AFAIK, I only use it for games mostly, but the
> >Midi I/O works fine). BTW. I agree that Creative are absolute rubbish,
> >their support is amongst the worst I have ever come across, and to cap
> >it all they want to charge some users of their products for driver
> >updates!!
> >
> >Anyway, my point is I have a 2nd PC hooked up to this machine, so I can
> >use midi-ox on the 2nd machine to monitor what the midi-out from the SB
> >is doing at boot time.
> >
> >I'll get back to you in a second when I have rebooted this machine and
> >checked.
> >
> >
> >In article <002601c1f9a3$874de8a0$f79f7a94@w0x3x7>, James R. Acker
> ><jacker@...> writes
> >>By the way...I will never give another cent to Creative Labs...I have
> >>never seen such rot. I bought two different boards from them. In both
> >>cases the installation is screwy and doesn't follow ANY of the
> >>standards that are considered normal...like progress bars to let you
> >>know install hasn't hung up, and also the fact that I end up wildly
> >>different software after each install...of the SAME installation CD.
> >>
> >> And to top it off, just try going to their web site and getting a
> >>download or an online manual. Half the time they redirect you to
> >>nonexistent/broken web pages, or take forever to load...
> >>
> >> No, I agree with you on that, I am through supporting this kind of
> >>crap, and will spread the word whenever I get a chance. I just meant
> >>that SINCE I have the thing...and have made it work before, I want to
> >>get it to work now.
> >>
> >>=============================================================
> >>Please check out my original music at my site http://home.online.no/~jacker
> >>Or at http://www.soundclick.com/bands/jacker_music.htm
> >> -James R. Acker-
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: <terryfunken@...>
> >>To: <AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com>
> >>Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 11:41 AM
> >>Subject: Re: [AN1x] MIDI problems...HELP!
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> In a message dated 11/5/02 10:00:07 am, jacker@... writes:
> >>>
> >>> >NEXT: I had in meantime bought a newer soundcard (Creative Labs
> >>> >Soundbolaster
> >>> >PCI card) and changed out the soundcard I had which was an older
> >>> >Soundblaster
> >>> >card. I installed the drivers and am experiencing exactly the same
> >>> >symptoms.
> >>> >
> >>> Hi Jim,
> >>>
> >>> I my experience- DON'T go for cheap soundcards that offer both midi and
> >>> sound. Usually the midi is only designed for gaming and basic music
> >>> applications. The AN1x requires high level data to be sent to and fro with
> >>> midi keyboard info on top of that. If you are pleased with the
> >>>quality of the
> >>> soundblaster card, then stick with that- but only for sound- also the
> >>> soundblaster drivers are unreliable (for the time being- although, i would
> >>> recommend spending a bit extra and getting a Korg 12/12 secondhand-for eg.).
> >>> IMO it is better to get a seperate MIDI card such as a Midiman WINMAN PCI
> >>> card- and with that you do have the option of multi midi ins and outs too.
> >>>
> >>> good luck!
> >>>
> >>> Tom
> >>>
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Re: [AN1x] MIDI problems...HELP!
2002-05-12 by James R. Acker