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Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] Re: New mod...

From: Alex Drinkwater <the_voder@...>
Date: 2012-10-23

I've gotta say, I think this might be pushing the idea of 'modding' a bit far. You're getting into the kind of territory where you may as well just design a new synth from scratch. The major problem with adding more and more features to the existing Poly/EX-800 is going to be the the UI. It's already got to the point where you need to have the reference sheet from the back of the manual always to hand in order to edit the sounds, and a whole raft of new options isn't going to make that situation any better. This isn't in any way a criticism of Mike's excellent work- it's just that user interface design has come on a long way since the mid 80s, and the limited controls on offer on the original hardware looks more and more creaky the more functionality is crammed into the box.

Also, I have to say I actually quite like the oscillators.They may be far from technically perfect, but they have a lo-fi charm of their own. Upgrading the osc.s is surely going to highlight the single filter, too. To fix that, you'd need to implement per-voice filtering, and then you literally have remade the entire audio path, and you really would be better off designing a new synth from the ground up, without being hobbled by 25-year-old hardware.

Sorry to be so discouraging.

a|x


From: k9k9dog <domgoold@...>
To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 23 October 2012, 17:43
Subject: [korgpolyex] Re: New mod...

a DCO mod sounds like a reasonable idea, if kept
within reasonable bounds: if the project has got this
far and you think it is possible to implement finer
DCOs, where you can have pulse width modulation and
cross modulation, better and maybe more waveforms,
why not?(you'd also want pitch envelope, osc sync,
and maybe a tracking bias)
but then, that's as far as you can go! maybe take it
a bit in the direction of a jx3p (or esq1?)..

atom: racking kit for ex800? do you want the dimensions
of the rack ears so you can make your own?

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Atom Smasher <atom@...> wrote:
>
> > great to hear from you. I sent you an email about a week ago but I think
> > your antispam rules are a bit too strict.
> ==============
>
> i just looked for it, and can't find it anywhere. if you can re-send it,
> make sure it goes to "atom@...". thanks...
>
>
> >
> > Anyway, I hope you're doing well and great to hear from you!
> >
> > I don't have a lot of time on my hands these days so I am not sure which way I am going to go.
> >
> > We have:
> >
> > 1) the unfinished rack project.
> > 2) some unfinished software features in HAWK.
> > 3) a desire for more control over DCO's
> >
> > I am not sure which way to go to be honest.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > _____________________________________________________________________________________________________
> > From: Atom Smasher <atom@...>
> > To: "korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com" <korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 11:58 AM
> > Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] Re: New mod...
> >
> >   i've been lurking since i hit my head and not keeping up with everything,
> > but i have to ask... at what point will you stop modding the P-800 and
> > just design a DIY kit that we can assemble, starting with a printed and
> > drilled board? now that you're looking at new DCOs, i'd say the time has
> > come ;)
> >
> > among other things, you can really get the UI right, from the start...
> > like having a 2x16 char LCD, and 4-6 front-panel knobs that are
> > user-assignable, per patch.
> >
> > i'm still waiting for a rack-mount kit for my EX-800, but if you come up
> > with your own DIY kit that's "inspired" by the P-800 (and its
> > modifications), and available with an option for a rack-kit, then i may
> > just sell my EX-800.
> >
> > --
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