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Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] Re: Arpeggiator for HAWK-800

From: Michael Hawkins <korgpolyex800@...>
Date: 2009-04-30

Yep, that is the plan.

I was thinking that we would do VCF cutoff, resonance and decay time accenting.

Mike.



From: Alex Drinkwater <the_voder@...>
To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 3:07:49 PM
Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] Re: Arpeggiator for HAWK-800


If you could add accents and slides;
absolutely!!

a|x

--- On Wed, 29/4/09, patrioticduo <patrioticduo@ yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: patrioticduo <patrioticduo@ yahoo.com>
> Subject: [korgpolyex] Re: Arpeggiator for HAWK-800
> To: korgpolyex@yahoogro ups.com
> Date: Wednesday, 29 April, 2009, 7:33 PM
> Well Poly is happy to work with
> changing MIDI clock rates same as any synth is.
>
> Next question for everyone is.
>
> While I'm doing the ARP it occurred to me that I could make
> a 16 note arranger/sequencer similar to TB-303. I never used
> a 303 so I don't know how it works but...
>
> Would anyone consider a real time sequencer on the Poly to
> be a useful thing?
>
> Mike.
>
> --- In korgpolyex@yahoogro ups.com,
> "narfman96" <narfman96@. ..> wrote:
> >
> > Yes that is what I meant for a work around if freqspec
> really wanted to try it.
> >
> > --- In korgpolyex@yahoogro ups.com,
> "patrioticduo" <patrioticduo@ > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey Fran,
> > >
> > > "Would it overload the HAWK midi clock if you
> applied a
> > > LFO clocked routine externally from a DAW?"
> > >
> > > You mean your DAW would send variable rate MIDI
> clocks? If yes, then Poly would be OK with that. If not,
> then I guess I don't understand what you're suggesting.
> > >
> > > Mike.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In korgpolyex@yahoogro ups.com,
> "narfman96" <narfman96@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > When my brother showed me all the already
> compiled utilities in Java I had to laugh. Visual Basic same
> thing. He's not learning programming on the scale that the
> old timers knew. Just go grab an easy to find utility on the
> web and away you go....
> > > >
> > > > Mike, you explained to me why I write and
> freely share all my patches. At the end of the day I know
> how all my synths work inside and out. If I need a sound I
> can usually visualize what needs to be done to get it.
> > > >
> > > > Your Arp ideas are great! Would it overload
> the HAWK midi clock if you applied a LFO clocked routine
> externally from a DAW? Oh well, bennies and the jet. Sorry
> about our indigenously high pollen count this time of
> year.   Fran 
> > > > --- In korgpolyex@yahoogro ups.com,
> LARRY HAWKE <gorgarh@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Yesterday I couldn't spell
> programmer.. .now I ARE one!  ;^)
> > > > >
> > > > > I think the coolest thing about my
> keyboard obsession is to park the Poly 800 next to my 'wall
> of keyboards' (Korg R3/microK/Alesis) and still play the
> heck out of it even though it's severly limited compared to
> my 21st Century gear.
> > > > > Considering that I paid $75 bucks for
> the Poly 800 (compared to a total of $2,000 for the others),
> I find that to be pretty mind-blowing.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jam on!  (learn with Gern!)
> > > > >
> > > > > Gor
> > > > >
> > > > > To: korgpolyex@yahoogro ups.com
> > > > > From: korgpolyex800@
> > > > > Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:23:59 +0000
> > > > > Subject: [korgpolyex] Re: Arpeggiator
> for HAWK-800
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> > > > >       LOL,
> that's pretty funny that you should ask for something that
> is not only difficult - but in actuality, damn near
> impossible. ROFL.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > But since you asked in jest and since I
> am as high as a kite on Benadryl to stop my ugly allergies
> and also since I have been listening to Solarfields Brainbow
> and other incredibly uplifting trance tracks. And what's
> more, since I have cleaned my office top to bottom and the
> weather is fantastic - well, here is a little off topic rant
> that I hope you all enjoy.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > First of all, the Arpeggiator is going
> to be clocked by MIDI or the built in sequencer so you can
> always vary the ARP rate by changing either of those clocks.
> But I am assuming that you wanted to vary the rate in the
> sense that you want to modulate the clock rate. Say, by
> sending an LFO into the clock rate in order to modulate it.
> Now that is the kind of question that makes my head go off
> in all directions.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > But thankfully, before that happened, I
> received a great article - at just the right moment - about
> the history of software programming and all of the problems
> that go with it.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.computer world.com/ action/article. do?command= viewArticleBasic &taxonomyName= Development& articleId= 9132061&taxonomy Id=11&pageNumber =1
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > And boy did I get a laugh reading
> through that article, because just about everything it
> mentions has been a big factor in the last two years of
> programming the HAWK-800. You have to keep in mind that the
> Poly 800 is based on the 80C85 microprocessor and I didn't
> want to buy a C compiler, and also there was a free 8085
> assembler out there called TASM - well, I ended up doing
> this entire project using assembler. Which seemed like it
> would be fun (and difficult) at the time I chose that
> direction but since I had also found a free disassembler
> that I was able to put the original ROM code through - well,
> here we are - two years later and a lot of spaghetti code
> has been produced which actually does the job rather nicely
> but - well, to be honest, maintaining the new code has been
> a lesson in programming that I never thought I would
> experience. Certainly not in the year 2009! The last time I
> wrote any assembler at all was around 1994 and even then I
> wrote awful code!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > So then what's this all about you say.
> Well, in my own silly way I just had to have a laugh
> thinking about how mad crazy this project really is and has
> been the whole time. But dang! if I didn't have the most
> awesome time doing all of this and I frankly don't mind if
> the only thing I am remembered for in the wider world after
> I'm gone is that I was mad enough, crazy enough and or
> stupid enough to have created a kit that so far only about
> 30 people have gained benefit from. And that, even then, the
> HAWK-800 kit is just an enhancement to a synthesizer that is
> widely considered to be one of the cheapest (because it was)
> pieces of crap masquerading as a real synthesizer.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The irony, oh the irony of it all is
> that probably even this kit won't be remembered at all and
> the only benefit from most of this work is that I can
> honestly say that I learned more about programming and more
> about the wizardry of sound synthesis and then made not a
> single a buck out of it but did just have a wonderful time
> doing it. And so it really isn't about the destination, it's
> the journey that matters after all.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyway, for those of you who managed to
> read this far and were hoping for a wider or more poignant
> point - I hate to say it - but there isn't one. Consider
> yourself to be Rick Rolled! LOL
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Now back to this ARP thing.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers all!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In korgpolyex@yahoogro ups.com,
> Frequency Spectrum <freqspec@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > any chance of having a swing rate
> included.
> > > > >
> > > > > > If so i would buy the mod for my
> mk2
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Im only joking this would be very
> difficult i suspect.
> > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 9:00 PM,
> patrioticduo <patrioticduo@ >wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Poly fans,
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > I am in the process of
> writing the code for an arpeggiator for the Poly.
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > I have a couple of questions
> since I've not used an arp for some time and
> > > > >
> > > > > > > also, I want to make the ARP
> unique in its functions compared to other
> > > > >
> > > > > > > ARP's.
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > What does everybody think
> about the following ARP features?
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > In ARP mode, the display will
> show "A" (replacing the "P") and only Poly
> > > > >
> > > > > > > mode is supported when in ARP
> mode. You select ARP mode by holding down the
> > > > >
> > > > > > > "Poly" button and then
> pressing the Seq. Start button. This makes it very
> > > > >
> > > > > > > easy to get into ARP mode for
> performances. To exit ARP mode, simply press
> > > > >
> > > > > > > the sequencer start/stop
> button again.
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > In ARP mode, any MIDI
> received notes or played notes will be inserted into
> > > > >
> > > > > > > the arpeggiator buffer. The
> notes will not be immediately played but
> > > > >
> > > > > > > instead, will be inserted
> into the arpeggiator such that the notes
> > > > >
> > > > > > > will be played out in
> sequence according to the arpeggiator clock rate
> > > > >
> > > > > > > (based upon either on board
> sequencer rate or MIDI clock rate). So if you
> > > > >
> > > > > > > were to hit four notes at
> once then each one would be played out on
> > > > >
> > > > > > > subsequent note ticks. The
> notes would be played out in order according to
> > > > >
> > > > > > > the sweep mode.
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > The arpeggiator user settings
> will be stored in global mode parameters and
> > > > >
> > > > > > > will include the following:
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > ARP_SWEEP - 1=Up, 2=Down,
> 3=Up/Down, 4=Down/Up, 5=FIFO, 6=random.
> > > > >
> > > > > > > Up - plays the notes in an
> upward sweep.
> > > > >
> > > > > > > Down - plays the notes in a
> downward sweep.
> > > > >
> > > > > > > Up/Down - plays the notes in
> an initial upward sweep followed by a downward
> > > > >
> > > > > > > sweep and thereupon repeats.
> > > > >
> > > > > > > Down/Up - plays the notes in
> an initial downward sweep followed by an
> > > > >
> > > > > > > upward sweep and thereupon
> repeats.
> > > > >
> > > > > > > FIFO - plays the notes in the
> order in which they were originally played.
> > > > >
> > > > > > > Random - plays the notes in
> random order.
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > ARP_RANGE - 0=none, 1=1
> octave, 2=2 octaves, 3=3 octaves.
> > > > >
> > > > > > > 0 - plays only the notes that
> are played.
> > > > >
> > > > > > > 1 - plays the played notes
> and the same notes one octave higher.
> > > > >
> > > > > > > 2 - plays the played notes
> and the same notes one octave higher and one
> > > > >
> > > > > > > octave lower.
> > > > >
> > > > > > > 3 - plays the played notes
> along with one and two octaves higher and lower.
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > ARP_DELAY - 1-64 = number of
> arp ticks to delay note off
> > > > >
> > > > > > > ARP_FORSTEP - 0=off, 1 thru
> 128. On each arp tick skip forward this number
> > > > >
> > > > > > > of arp notes.
> > > > >
> > > > > > > ARP_BACKSTEP - 0=off, 1 thru
> 128. On each arp tick move backward this
> > > > >
> > > > > > > number of arp notes
> > > > >
> > > > > > > ARP_REST - 0=off, 1 thru 128.
> The number of arp notes to play before a rest
> > > > >
> > > > > > > is played instead of the arp
> note.
> > > > >
> > > > > > > ARP_SINGLE - 1=play the
> arpeggiator when 1 or more notes are played, 2=play
> > > > >
> > > > > > > when 2 or more notes are
> played.
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > Now, you can see that I am
> trying to make the ARP behave in a way that
> > > > >
> > > > > > > allows for some funky
> stepping forward and backward as well as skipping on
> > > > >
> > > > > > > sounding notes. What does
> everyone think of those features?
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > Mike.
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