Hey hey,
I think as an idea the Optigan/orchestron/chilton talentmaker disc is great.
The loops and sounds are really interesting. Amazing to have all the discs
ready to go...
The only question I have is always going to be in that sample directory "
where is the sound I want ? " feeling.
If I would be stepping through samples and stumbled across Stylophone
#1....I don't think the odds are that great that I'd use it. But with a real
one when you understand how your playing effects the sound et.c it makes a
lot more sense.
When someone sits down at an Optigan, Orchestron or a Chilton talentmaker in
my studio it usually just takes somewhere between 5 - 10 minutes before that
person says " I have written a song ! ".
Would people spend that time with a keyboard attached to a sampler or a
computer ?
I think the same thing goes for every Sample CD. If you don't have the
actual instrument in front of you you tend to use sounds you are familiar
with from other recordings et.c. Sounds you know sound o.k and will work as
" wow it is a Mellotron ". So with the Mellotron it'll be the flutes, 3
violins, choirs et.c and with the Talentmaker ?
I must admit I have never worked with the a sampler but I do know that
despite the wide array of amazing sample CDs like the ones from the good
people at Mellotron Archives the sounds you usually get to hear are still
gonna be those meat and potatoes Flutes/3 violins and cello.
I guess I'm just a bit surprised that I don't hear more Optigan rhythms and
organs on the radio or on tv considering how great they are. I guess when
you go through a sample directory they don'ty catch your ear the same way as
when sitting at the instrument contemplating wether you are going to flip
the disc upside down or tape another disc on top...
// Mattias
Roth Händle studios, Stockholm
www.roth-handle.nu
----- Original Message -----
From: "mark kasian" <easle12@...>
To: "David Davis" <feline1@...>; "Mellotronist's List List"
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Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 4:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Digest Number 1301
> Yeah, I guess I am. I must have been listening to my
> Fiona Apple, Crowded House, Los Lobos, Suzanne Vega,
> Michael Penn, Sparklehorse and Tom Waits records. How
> silly.
>
> Actually, I thought you might possibly have been
> referring to the sonic quality of the machines, not
> the material so much. At any rate, one disk with all
> of the possible disks ever made for all three abortive
> stabs at the idea seems like a good idea to me.
>
> But then, I AM nuts. And 200 bucks for high quality
> recordings of so much trashy low fi material is
> certainly a waste of blue collar money.
>
> Mark.
>
> --- David Davis <feline1@...> wrote:
>
>> Are you nuts??!
>> 'Tis the sound of Trans-Europe Express!
>> Radioaktivitaet! URAN!!!!!
>>
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "mark kasian" <easle12@...>
>> To: "David Davis" <feline1@...>;
>> <Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 7:15 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Digest Number 1301
>>
>>
>> >I doubt that there is NEARLY enough sonic
>> information
>> > on the very few orchestron disks to warrant the
>> > manufacturing of a disk with just those sounds. As
>> for
>> > the optigan sounds, how is the orchstron any
>> better?
>> >
>> > Mark
>> >
>> > --- David Davis <feline1@...> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I wish they'd release a cheaper CD-ROM with just
>> the
>> >> Vako Orchestron
>> >> sounds on it though.
>> >> I'd love to get those (to recreate all my
>> favourite
>> >> Kraftwerk tunes ;-)
>> >> but don't really spending $199 when 90% of that
>> is
>> >> dreadful Optigan sounds...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> David Davis
>> >> /
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>> >> Seolta: 31 March 2006 15:24
>> >> Ábhar: [Mellotronists] Digest Number 1301
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > There are 2 messages in this issue.
>> >> >
>> >> > Topics in this digest:
>> >> >
>> >> > 1. Original Mellotron Recordings...
>> >> > From: Bruce Harvie
>> >> <tonewoods@...>
>> >> > 2. Re: Original Mellotron Recordings...
>> >> > From: "Mattias"
>> >> <Mattias.olsson5@...>
>> >> >
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>> >> > Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 12:52:48 -0800
>> >> > From: Bruce Harvie
>> <tonewoods@...>
>> >> > Subject: Original Mellotron Recordings...
>> >> >
>> >> > On the new Mellotron.com sample CD that is
>> >> supposedly coming out soon, there
>> >> > are some pretty cool mandolin samples...
>> >> >
>> >> > see:
>> >> > http://www.mellotron.com/prices.htm
>> >> >
>> >> > Were these loaded on the original 'Trons, or
>> were
>> >> they custom tapes, or
>> >> > ???...
>> >> >
>> >> > Anyone know the history of these samples? Who
>> >> played them?
>> >> >
>> >> > Being a mando player, I'm kinda interested in
>> >> these.
>> >> > Thanks in advance...
>> >> > Bruce
>> >> > --
>> >> > Check out the liner notes to my CD "Mandolin
>> >> Graffiti" at:
>> >> > http://www.bruceharvie.com
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>> >> > Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 08:24:16 +0200
>> >> > From: "Mattias" <Mattias.olsson5@...>
>> >> > Subject: Re: Original Mellotron Recordings...
>> >> >
>> >> > This is great !
>> >> >
>> >> > These are some of my favorite " new " sounds
>> that
>> >> I have gotten on real
>> >> > tapeframes....The Mandolin tremoloes are great
>> and
>> >> the harp is celestial....
>> >> >
>> >> > Very cool indeed...
>> >> >
>> >> > // Mattias
>> >> >
>> >> > Bruce...
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
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> www.roth-handle.nu/material/mellomattias/CriborneplaysMandolinTremolo.mpg
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > From: "Bruce Harvie"
>> <tonewoods@...>
>> >> > To: <Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com>
>> >> > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 10:52 PM
>> >> > Subject: [Mellotronists] Original Mellotron
>> >> Recordings...
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> On the new Mellotron.com sample CD that is
>> >> supposedly coming out soon,
>> >> >> there
>> >> >> are some pretty cool mandolin samples...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> see:
>> >> >> http://www.mellotron.com/prices.htm
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Were these loaded on the original 'Trons, or
>> were
>> >> they custom tapes, or
>> >> >> ???...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Anyone know the history of these samples? Who
>> >> played them?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Being a mando player, I'm kinda interested in
>> >> these.
>> >> >> Thanks in advance...
>> >> >> Bruce
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Check out the liner notes to my CD "Mandolin
>> >> Graffiti" at:
>> >> >> http://www.bruceharvie.com
>> >> >>
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