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Subject: Re: Fw: [Mellotronists] 'Tron hate...

From: mark kasian <easle12@...>
Date: 2005-04-25

Wrong.

They were samples from the masters that Kean has.
Project designer was Kevin Monahan with Riley Smith in
tow. The problem with that box is the VERY limited
amount of sample memory available and the stretching
and re-mapping of the samples to fit that chunk of
real estate. Sounds bad because there's NO bandwidth!

Plus, to make matters worse, they looped the thing.
Yuk.

A better version is the set that they released for the
E4...but still not as good as the Pinder disk and not
really close at all to the real deal....natch.


Mark.
--- John Hofmeyer <j_hofmeyer@...> wrote:
> I remember when those E-Mu boxes came out. In fact,
> I
> chatted with the sound designer responsible for
> creating the
> sounds. I asked him, specifically about the
> Mellotron -
> where he found the instrument, etc.
>
> They didn't actually sample a Mellotron - they found
> a
> recording of the 'tron at a local studio (local =
> San
> Francisco) and sampled from the tape! I'm pretty
> certain
> that they only sampled a few of the notes and went
> from
> there.
>
> For this reason, I was disappointed with the Vintage
> keys box
> was released. Rather use the string sounds on their
> Proteus2
> box than the vintage keys.
>
> It seems that more recent, vintage-keys type synths
> have
> wisely avoided any attempt at re-creating the
> mellotron. The
> Nord Electro comes to mind (nice Rhodes and Clav
> sounds)
>
> -jh
>
>
> --- Andy Thompson <andy.thompson@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ken Leonard" <ken@...>
> > To: "Mellotronists"
> <Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 1:26 AM
> > Subject: Re: Fw: [Mellotronists] 'Tron hate...
> >
> >
> >
> > > >Somebody on the list (Ken Leonard?) has a great
> mp3 file
> > of an A/B test
> > of a
> > > >real Mellotron and a sampled Mellotron (eMu
> Vintage
> > Synth, if I recall)
> > > >posted on their site - about fifteen minutes of
> same
> > phrases
> > back-and-forth,
> >
> > Had Ken actually done the A-B with the Emu box, it
> would've
> > been a
> > grotequely unfair comparison - those have to be
> some of the
> > worst 'Tron
> > samples I've come across.
> >
> > > It's M400 #805 vs. the Roland M-VS1.
> >
> > Despite the fact that I use the same unit live,
> the
> > comparison's still
> > pretty unfair! About an octave of useable choirs,
> I think.
> >
> > > Hmmm...Maybe the REAL comparison is comparing
> #805 to its
> > sampled self
> > > (which I can also do on my PC)? Nawww, I have
> to
> > rearrange my sock
> > drawer.
> >
> > Oh go on, Ken... That would be the fairest
> comparison, but
> > I think we all
> > know who'd win.
> >
> > Andy T.
> >
> >
> >
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