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Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Tron and eBay (Caveat Emptor) Prices

From: "Alan Neva" <alanneva@...>
Date: 2003-06-28

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Date: Thursday, June 26, 2003 12:05:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Tron and eBay (Caveat Emptor) Prices
I have a few that I tracked a couple of years ago.
             Jul 10, 2000     M400 w/ padded case   reserve not met   $3550
             Jul 11, 2000     M400SM #1407   reserve not met   $2650
             Feb 24, 2000    M400D needs tapes and motor card  sold $2425.00 
             Dec 9, 2000      M400  opening bid $5000 reserve not met
             April 1, 2001    M400 signed by M. Pinder  reserve not met  $2000                             
             April 26,  2001  400S w/ "protecto-case"   sold $2475.00
 
              
 

Don Tillman wrote:

I don't think it's reasonable to draw conclusions from eBay prices.

Auctions naturally show high prices because the whole point of an
auction is to take advantage of a bidding frenzy.  And when you have
eBay's features like hidden reserves and the ability to spoof bids,
you're going to see a lot of unrealistically high prices.
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Greetings Don and Everybody,

I'm no "expert" on eBay, but I have seen lots of chicanery
in my almost six years as registered user. Prices on eBay
are basically a target-shoot at best. But a small percentage
of sellers feel they can control prices and get their
thrills with unbelievable/unrealistic reserves.

For example, I've seen identical items sold by different
people listed anywhere from $5 to $150 each.
And some "auctions" are highly-staged with associates
shill-bidding(illegal on eBay) to bump-up prices even more.
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Further, any situation where the cost of presenting the item for sale
is zero or near zero, there's a great inducement to float a high price
for an item with attitude of, "hell, maybe somebody will pay this
extra high price and I'll win big.  It costs me nothing to try."

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The classic scenario "start high,then lower as needed."
The buyers themselves will decide ultimately.
eBay started operations around 1996,and got really
popular around 1997. For the most part,transactions
are equitable. Some excellent deals can be found,
unfortunately not for Trons these days on eBay.
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The items you mention never actually sold, right?  I would only base
conclusions about price on actual sales.    -- Don

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Has anybody on our Tron List printed/saved all prev.
Mellotron eBay auctions and kept track of prices?
Would be interesting to see.........

Cheers, Jerry Korb  (reserve not met)

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I have a some that I tracked a few years ago. These are the closing results.
 
             Jul 10, 2000     M400 w/ padded case   reserve never met   $3550
             Jul 11, 2000     M400SM #1407   reserve never met   $2650
             Feb 24, 2000    M400D needs tapes and motor card  sold $2425.00 
             Dec 9, 2000      M400  opening bid $5000 reserve never met
             April 1, 2001    M400 signed by M. Pinder  reserve never met  $2000                             
             April 26,  2001  400S w/ "protecto-case"   sold $2475.00
 
 Interestingly, the units with HIGH reserves never sold.
 
Alan Neva M400S #343


 


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