Good riddance to him.
I know he's a Streetly friend etc..etc.., but he's the
only guy that has EVER threatened to fly to the US and
beat me up because I didn't agree with his Mellotron
affiliations and opinions. He might be a great wealth
of Mellotrons, music, being British and a forensic
genius, but he has the personality of a cold sore and
I can do completely without it.
And Martin? You and I have a good understanding. You
and DK have patched things up I guess...but REALLY,
Mike makes you guys look like thugs. He's not the best
ambassador for your cause.
My .02
Mark.
--- Donald Tillman <
don@...> wrote:
> Various bits of hate mail (just kidding)...
>
> > From: Bob Snyder <bob.snyder@...>
> > Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 06:58:45 -0800
> >
> > I've been on this list since it started which
> is a long time. In
> > all that time there have been a lot of rude
> messages, a lot of
> > name calling, a lot of hurt feelings. That
> seems to be the nature
> > of email lists -
>
> I agree, there have been a lot of rude messages,
> name calling and hurt
> feelings. That's ∗not∗ a good thing.
>
> And that is ∗not∗ the nature of email lists, that's
> the nature of
> immature participants. For comparision, check out
> the "synth-diy"
> list, which has long been a beacon of politeness, of
> learning, of
> sharing ideas in a positive environment, and with
> discussions that,
> almost without exception, end up expanding the state
> of the art of
> synthesizer design.
>
> > From: Mark Pring <markpringnz@...>
> > Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 11:39:28 -0800 (PST)
> >
> > Below is a copy of your email reply to Mark
> Wallis in July when
> > he thought he had been removed from the group.
>
> Okay.
>
> > I don't recall Mike making any threats.
>
> So I'm not allowed to elevate the standards of the
> list? Would you be
> happier if I lowered the standards? I'm sure you
> would.
>
> > I remember some one ( but not who) saying that
> one needed a very
> > thick skin to be on the list. I think this is
> true,
>
> I agree, and that's a Really Bad Thing. Why should
> anybody need a
> thick skin? Why shouldn't somebody be able to make
> an insightful
> point about music without a gang of brutes roughing
> him up? Why
> shouldn't newcomers be welcomed in? Why shouldn't
> people be treated
> with respect?
>
> > From: Jim Anderson <jimanderson@...>
> > Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 15:26:17 -0800
> >
> > I'd say for truth of advertising we should just
> rename the list to
> > Mellotronassholeists and welcome everyone.
>
> Jim, you have nailed the issue right there.
>
> > From: "jonesalley" <jonesalley@...>
> > Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 19:40:47 -0600
> >
> > I'm not going to venture an opinion on the list
> as to whether
> > Mike should be a member or not. I only wish to
> remind everyone
> > that this is a private group that is owned and
> moderated solely
> > by Don under Yahoo's terms, and while things
> are obviously
> > free-ranging it is still Don's Yahoo! Group and
> not a democracy.
>
> Jonesalley is correct. But it's nothing really. By
> nothing I mean
> it's a free service provided by Yahoo.
>
> > From: lsf5275@...
> > Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:36:02 EST
> >
> > Jon, without a doubt, that is (some of) the
> lamest bullshit I
> > have ever read on this list.
>
> No Frank, it's absolutely true.
>
> > Jon, Don might have started this list, but it
> now transcends
> > him. It isn't his. It is all of ours and we
> trust him to moderate
> > it. But to do so, he must remain neutral and
> follow a fair set
> > of rules. He doesn't get to throw people out
> that piss him
> > off. That's not fair. We should all have a say.
>
> Only in your fertile imagination, Frank.
>
> > Moderate, don't censor.
>
> First off, moderating a list takes way too much
> time. The moderator
> has to read and decide on each posting in a timely
> manner. I don't
> have time for that. You see, I have a life, a
> family, a day job, and
> literally hundreds of really important projects I'm
> working on. Hell,
> I don't even have time to read all my hate mail.
>
> Secondly, if a list needs to be moderated, it's
> proof positive that
> the participants are far too immature to interact
> without adult
> supervision.
>
> Third, you're advocating censorship.
>
> Fourth, don't be telling me what to do.
>
> > From: Rick Blechta <rick@...>
> > Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 09:33:50 -0500
> >
> > Could I respectfully point out that at the
> beginning of this debacle,
> > you were what I considered very rude to me?
>
> Oh crap, I may have Blechta and Dickson confused.
> Did I throw out the
> wrong guy? :-)
>
> ----------------
>
> So, the issue here is that the manager of this list
> is at odds with
> the content of this list. It's not doing any good
> for music or
> musical instruments, two things I care very much
> about. There's way
> too much rudeness, way too much fighting, nothing
> positive. And
> positivity is something I also care about.
>
> So I'm thinking this list, while started with the
> best of intentions,
> is actually doing more harm than good. And that's
> not a good thing.
>
> -- Don
>
> --
> Don Tillman
> Palo Alto, California
> don@...
> http://www.till.com
>
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