Yup. Just keep trackin' an' a-bouncin'! Unless you
have 19 machines, of course. Or protools, but where's
the fun in that.
Oh, and in reference to the Gizmotron, I've built a
couple of contraptions that give you a motor with a
felt wheel/s powered by a 9V battery and can secure to
the strap button for bowed effects. Somewhat limited,
but good for certain things. Definitely Rube Goldberg
type stuff...
-Jack
--- gino wong <
wonggster@...> wrote:
> What were the mechanics and how practical or loopy
> were the loop tron
> or trons that T Dream used back in the day ?
>
> The mixer trick is the most practical way to
> implement 10cc voice
> choir thing becasue you'll never have enough
> machines, mike stands and
> pencils to do it otherwise.
>
> gw
>
> On 5/2/07, Jack Younger <e4103s@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello!
> > This is a bit late in the game, but I only get to
> > this page every so often lately...
> > As far as looped and tracked "10cc" vocals, it's
> > really quite easy and I've used it at the studio
> many
> > times for a pad of breathless vocals.
> > My method is to track about five to ten seconds
> of
> > each note you want to a 1/4" or 1/2" 2-track. You
> > can maximize by recording seperate notes one at a
> time
> > on each track. Cut and loop it. Play the loop
> back
> > to two tracks of your multitrack and record it
> through
> > the whole song. Repeat the process as many times
> as
> > you have track space for and then bounce the
> whole kit
> > and kaboodle to two tracks for stereo, running
> the
> > faders according to the required performance.
> > The result is striking. I call it
> > "create-a-tron" and it can be used for many
> different
> > sound sources.
> > Good luck!
> > -Jack Younger (EMI 103S -the Bastard 'Tron)
> >
> > --- chris.dale@... wrote:
> >
> > > I don't know about cutting the tape and using
> it as
> > > a loop.
> > >
> > > I do know that they overdubbed around 100+
> voices
> > > and that they played the faders for the volume
> > > swells in that song.
> > >
> > > And of course, theyre using the Gizmotron for
> the
> > > cello sound and background noise as well. You
> can
> > > hear that same noise on the track Lazy Ways
> from the
> > > How Dare You album. It sounds interesting
> without
> > > the choir voices.
> > >
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi, all-
> > > Thought I would throw another wrench in the
> fire
> > > (probably replete with erroneous 70's memories,
> > > too).
> > > It seems I read once that 10cc used a large
> > > multitrack
> > > recorder to create a playable choir of their
> own
> > > voices on the song "I'm Not In Love". Once the
> > > vocal
> > > tracks were laid down on the same area of tape,
> > > the
> > > section was cut out, and spliced in a loop. It
> was
> > > loaded back on the machine (with appropriate
> > > tension),
> > > and played off a mixing console using the solo
> > > buttons
> > > as a keyboard. I don't know where I read this,
> but
> > > it
> > > stuck in my mind for years. Maybe a similar
> idea
> > > was
> > > used by those clever Germans.
> > >
> > > Bruce Daily
> > > M400 1221
> > >
> > > P.S. I admit to playing my 'tron "solo" in my
> > > living
> > > room (no mixer yet). So far my friends just
> smile,
> > > scratch their heads, and mumble something about
> > > "could
> > > be done digitally". Oh well, what do they know?
> > > I'm
> > > happy.
> > >
> > > --- charel196 <charel196@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > > let's not forget the "Singing Keyboard" from
> the
> > > > 1930s, which was a tron/Chamberlin idea
> > > > using movie film as the medium and light to
> read
> > > it
> > > > a/la Orchestron. I'd love to hear any
> > > > examples of it....somebody back then had to
> have
> > > > made a recording....
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com, "Andy
> > > > Thompson" <andy.thompson@...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: NormLeete@...
> > > > > To: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 11:18 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Re: Solo trons
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > In a message dated 22/04/2007 23:02:29 GMT
> > > > Standard Time, andy.thompson@...
> > > > writes:
> > > > > an early European one-off attempt to use
> the
> > > > > Chamberlin/Mellotron idea, with infinite
> > > > sustain
> > > > > I thought it was a modified Mellotron...
> > > > >
> > > > > Norm
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Norm
> > > > >
> > > > > What little I've been able to find out
> about
> > > it
> > > > seems to indicate that it was built in the
> > > > '50s! It also sounds unbelievably complex to
> > > play,
> > > > making the 'MkII rhythms' technique
> > > > dound like a doddle. :-) It allegedly resides
> in
> > > > 'a west German museum' now, so if
> > > > ANYONE has any idea which...
> > > > >
> > > > > Andy T.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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