Have that live version, too and agree with the fast strumming 12 string.
The 8 choir sounds great and is an excellent improvement (Bruford's gong
percussion adds a dramatic edge, too) on the song-- sort of like how the 8
voice choir definitely improves the end of "Afterglow" on 'Seconds Out',
which to me is an example of how the Mellotron, under the right hands, can
transfer a sing-songy pop tune into a heart wrenching, progressive epic.
Wish they would have done that on the studio version (is there a reason why
they didn't?). It would have provided a more appropriate and dramatic
climax to "Unquiet Slumbers For The Sleepers... ... In That Quiet Earth".
Jimmy P.
-----Original Message-----
From: J.K.Beresford [mailto:
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Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 4:15 AM
To:
Mellotronists@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [Mellotronists] MkII mandolins
Hi Guys,
Regarding this Stagnation/White Mountain thing - I have a
recording of White Mountain done live in 76, so that's definately
fast strummed 12 strings. Don't know about the original though.
Incidentally for the middle bit of the live version they used very loud
8 choir and Taurus pedals stamping up and down on the rhythm.
Stunning!
John
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ferrograph@... [mailto:ferrograph@...]
> Sent: 10 July 2002 13:05
> To: mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] MkII mandolins
>
>
> Duncan/all
>
>
> << I've just had a friend ask me about Genesis' 'Stagnation', from
> 'Trespass', and whether I think it's Mellotron mandolins on the intro
> and at about 6.11 into the song. I can't offhand think of any other
> definite use of the sound to compare it with. Any ideas? >>
>
> andy, let's look at this tricky little question another way; if it
> ∗isn't∗ the mellotron mandolin sound, then what on earth is it? the
> big feller get a third neck on his rickenbacker? now, where's that
> bifter?
>
>
> Well, the mate who asked me thought it was fast-strummed 12-string,
> possibly with a capo, though it seems opinion's against him! He plays
> keys in yet another Genesis tribute band, and I presume they're
> tackling 'White Mountain'. I know I said 'Stagnation', but I meant
> 'White Mountain'. Don't ask.
>
>
> reminded me, this query, of the time that a certain german band's
> 'tron tapes were up for grabs and the boys had a list of sounds (in
> threes) to choose from. one of them was "nylon strung guitar".... wtf
> were they doing with a sound like that? we wondered..... but if you
> listen to "sorcerer", it's there on "grind".
>
>
> Duncan's just pinpointed the major problem with 'Tronspotting - the
> common sounds are all v.well, but what about mandos or nylon guitar,
> for example? I've done quite a bit of this while reviewing stuff for
> my site, and I'm well aware that I've probably missed tracks and
> sounds, but if I don't even know what the band used... On this
> subject, what about Peter Baumann's 'Romance 76'? I can hear various
> 'Tron sounds, including (I think) piano and tubular bells, but if any
> of you have sharper hearing...
>
>
> er.... how are we going to recognise each other (not us two, andy) at
> the hackett/glennie bash? I plan to sport a motorhead t-shirt, as I'm
> seated near the front and want to see how the artistes cope with this.
>
>
> Excellent! I haven't got a ticket yet, Dunc - cashflow problems - but
> I hope to be there, in which case I'll spot John Armes for you.
>
> Andy T.
> M400 #1145
>
> http://freespace.virgin.net/andy.thompson/
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