[sdiy] [Polluriel détecté] Re: Reliable MIDI recording app for PC.. Or my Sonar X3 Pro DAW is not set correctly..
John Speth
johnspeth at yahoo.com
Thu Oct 30 22:22:40 CET 2025
That looks super-clean. We can eliminate MIDI clogging from your machine
as any kind of cause. - JJS
On 10/30/2025 11:51 AM, jpdesroc at oricom.ca wrote:
>
> Here is a very small MIDI-OX snapshot of what my player send as MIDI
> datas..
>
> And at the end *All Notes Off* message when I stop my motors..
>
> 00021F06 2 -- 91 27 7F 2 Eb 2 Note On
>
> 00021F07 2 -- 91 4B 7F 2 Eb 5 Note On
>
> 00021F0B 2 -- 91 1B 7F 2 Eb 1 Note On
>
> 00021F0C 2 -- 91 57 7F 2 Eb 6 Note On
>
> 00021F10 2 -- 91 3B 7F 2 B 3 Note On
>
> 00021F31 2 -- 91 4E 7F 2 F# 5 Note On
>
> 00021F33 2 -- 91 5F 7F 2 B 6 Note On
>
> 00021F6A 2 -- 81 47 7F 2 B 4 Note Off
>
> 00021F95 2 -- 91 5A 7F 2 F# 6 Note On
>
> 00021FBB 2 -- 91 3F 7F 2 Eb 4 Note On
>
> 00021FF3 2 -- 81 3B 7F 2 B 3 Note Off
>
> 00021FFF 2 -- 81 57 7F 2 Eb 6 Note Off
>
> 00022000 2 -- 81 5F 7F 2 B 6 Note Off
>
> 00022003 2 -- 81 53 7F 2 B 5 Note Off
>
> 0002202A 2 -- 91 57 7F 2 Eb 6 Note On
>
> 00022051 2 -- 91 42 7F 2 F# 4 Note On
>
> 00022078 2 -- 81 4E 7F 2 F# 5 Note Off
>
> 00022087 2 -- 81 5A 7F 2 F# 6 Note Off
>
> 0002208B 2 -- 81 3F 7F 2 Eb 4 Note Off
>
> 0002208C 2 -- 81 4B 7F 2 Eb 5 Note Off
>
> 000220B0 2 -- 91 47 7F 2 B 4 Note On
>
> 000220CF 2 -- 81 1B 7F 2 Eb 1 Note Off
>
> 000220D0 2 -- 81 27 7F 2 Eb 2 Note Off
>
> 00022106 2 -- 81 42 7F 2 F# 4 Note Off
>
> 00022117 2 -- 81 57 7F 2 Eb 6 Note Off
>
> 00022140 2 -- 91 36 7F 2 F# 3 Note On
>
> 0002214A 2 -- 91 3F 7F 2 Eb 4 Note On
>
> 0002214B 2 -- 91 4B 7F 2 Eb 5 Note On
>
> 0002214C 2 -- 91 57 7F 2 Eb 6 Note On
>
> 00022150 2 -- 91 17 7F 2 B 0 Note On
>
> 00022151 2 -- 91 3B 7F 2 B 3 Note On
>
> 00022158 2 -- 91 23 7F 2 B 1 Note On
>
> 00022164 2 -- 91 53 7F 2 B 5 Note On
>
> 0002216D 2 -- 91 5A 7F 2 F# 6 Note On
>
> 00022173 2 -- 91 5F 7F 2 B 6 Note On
>
> 0002217A 2 -- 91 4E 7F 2 F# 5 Note On
>
> 000221A9 2 -- 81 47 7F 2 B 4 Note Off
>
> 00022316 2 -- 81 4E 7F 2 F# 5 Note Off
>
> 0002231F 2 -- 81 36 7F 2 F# 3 Note Off
>
> 00022326 2 -- 81 5A 7F 2 F# 6 Note Off
>
> 0002232B 2 -- 81 23 7F 2 B 1 Note Off
>
> 0002232C 2 -- 81 3B 7F 2 B 3 Note Off
>
> 0002232D 2 -- 81 3F 7F 2 Eb 4 Note Off
>
> 0002232E 2 -- 81 4B 7F 2 Eb 5 Note Off
>
> 00022330 2 -- 81 57 7F 2 Eb 6 Note Off
>
> 00022331 2 -- 81 5F 7F 2 B 6 Note Off
>
> 00022335 2 -- 81 17 7F 2 B 0 Note Off
>
> 00022336 2 -- 81 53 7F 2 B 5 Note Off
>
> 00022380 2 -- B1 7B 00 2 --- CC: All Notes Off
>
> *De :*H.Sergio Alves <theatomlabspt at gmail.com>
> *Envoyé :* 30 octobre 2025 14:23
> *À :* jpdesroc at oricom.ca
> *Cc :* John Speth <johnspeth at yahoo.com>; SYNTH DIY
> <synth-diy at synth-diy.org>
> *Objet :* Re: [sdiy] [Polluriel détecté] Re: Reliable MIDI recording
> app for PC.. Or my Sonar X3 Pro DAW is not set correctly..
>
> Have you tried midi ox to monitor what’s being sent?
>
> On Thu, 30 Oct 2025 at 18:20, Jean-Pierre Desrochers via Synth-diy
> <synth-diy at synth-diy.org> wrote:
>
> My program only outputs the following MIDI datas:
>
> NOTE ON (paper hole detected)
>
> NOTE OFF (paper hole finished)
>
> ALL NOTES OFF (when rewinding my paper rolls only. Never else)
>
> So there is no ‘big’ MIDI traffic involved here to the Sonar MIDI
> input.
>
> But the number of voices can go up to around 20 in some parts
> of songs but rarely. Mostly around 10-15 notes played at the same
> time.
>
> Mike Briant asked:
>
> */>> /**/What else is on the USB connectors of the PC ? Anything
> else taking lots of bandwidth (a USB3->HDMI display for example ?)/*
>
> I use a 5 pins DIN MIDI connector to my Focusrite Scarlett 2i4 USB
> device.
>
> No other USB devices used on my PC during MIDI recordings.
>
> I tried using only *Note*s and remove *System Exclusive* from the
> ‘authorized’ record datas.
>
> It improved the recorded datas but still some lags inserted
> here and there..
>
> *De :*Synth-diy <synth-diy-bounces at synth-diy.org> *De la part de*
> John Speth via Synth-diy
> *Envoyé :* 30 octobre 2025 11:03
> *À :* SYNTH DIY <synth-diy at synth-diy.org>
> *Objet :* Re: [sdiy] [Polluriel détecté] Re: Reliable MIDI
> recording app for PC.. Or my Sonar X3 Pro DAW is not set correctly..
>
> */>> Do the hesitations happen in the same way each time when
> you start playback? /*
>
> Yes. Same way, same places. The lags are recorded on the MIDI
> track.
>
> "The lags are recorded on the MIDI track."??? Does that mean the
> gaps are in your recorded event list? If so, that's not a
> playback problem. That's a recording problem. Your filter is set
> to record note on/off and sysex. Does your event list only contain
> note on/off and sysex? If you change your filter to not record
> sysex, do you still have valid test conditions for you to see the
> problem? IOW, if you don't record sysex, will playback be silent
> because sysex was needed? Disable sysex recording as a test.
> There's no lasting harm in doing so I assume.
>
> I think the next step is to monitor MIDI data with a MIDI monitor
> during recording. There might be some sort of MIDI data clogging
> up the MIDI stream. MIDI is capacity limited. So, for example, if
> sysex is constantly being pumped along with note on/off, you could
> plausibly see hesitations. Monitor in both directions (if you're
> using both directions).
>
> I recently had a Cakewalk experience that showed a bug regarding
> .MID files. I took an interest in the "Situation" by Yazoo MIDI
> file. When I loaded it into free Sonar, I had many problems
> running it (problems I don't remember). I tried two other .MID
> files and never had the same problems. I concluded that the Yazoo
> .MID file contained something that corrupted Cakewalk. I tried the
> same exercise with Bandlab and noted the same problem. I concluded
> that there is some sort of bug associated with some .MID files in
> Cakewalk and that the this mysterious bug has been around for a
> while. I would try a different sequencer. You should be able to
> find at least a few free ones, including online sequencers. The
> bottom line is: CW has bugs and it probably always will.
>
> If you haven't done so yet, install and use MIDI-OX. It's a swiss
> army knife tool for MIDI. It has a MIDI monitor and will let you
> confirm your MIDI data that you record has no hesitations by
> taking Sonar out of the picture.
>
> JJS
>
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