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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">That looks super-clean. We can
eliminate MIDI clogging from your machine as any kind of cause. -
JJS</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/30/2025 11:51 AM,
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jpdesroc@oricom.ca">jpdesroc@oricom.ca</a> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Here
is a very small MIDI-OX snapshot of what my player send as
MIDI datas..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">And
at the end <b>All Notes Off</b> message when I stop my
motors..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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00021F06 2 -- 91 27 7F 2 Eb 2 Note
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> 00021F07
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> 00021F0B
2 -- 91 1B 7F 2 Eb 1 Note On <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> 00021F0C
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style="font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> 00021F10
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style="font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> 00021F31
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style="font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> 00021F33
2 -- 91 5F 7F 2 B 6 Note On <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> 00021F6A
2 -- 81 47 7F 2 B 4 Note Off <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> 00021F95
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style="font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> 00021FBB
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"
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2 -- 81 5F 7F 2 B 6 Note Off <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> 00022003
2 -- 81 53 7F 2 B 5 Note Off <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> 0002202A
2 -- 91 57 7F 2 Eb 6 Note On <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> 00022051
2 -- 91 42 7F 2 F# 4 Note On <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> 00022078
2 -- 81 4E 7F 2 F# 5 Note Off <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> 00022087
2 -- 81 5A 7F 2 F# 6 Note Off <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> 0002208B
2 -- 81 3F 7F 2 Eb 4 Note Off <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> 0002208C
2 -- 81 4B 7F 2 Eb 5 Note Off <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> 000220B0
2 -- 91 47 7F 2 B 4 Note On <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> 000220CF
2 -- 81 1B 7F 2 Eb 1 Note Off <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> 000220D0
2 -- 81 27 7F 2 Eb 2 Note Off <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> 00022106
2 -- 81 42 7F 2 F# 4 Note Off <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> 00022117
2 -- 81 57 7F 2 Eb 6 Note Off <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> 00022140
2 -- 91 36 7F 2 F# 3 Note On <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> 0002214A
2 -- 91 3F 7F 2 Eb 4 Note On <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> 0002214B
2 -- 91 4B 7F 2 Eb 5 Note On <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> 0002214C
2 -- 91 57 7F 2 Eb 6 Note On <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> 00022150
2 -- 91 17 7F 2 B 0 Note On <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> 00022151
2 -- 91 3B 7F 2 B 3 Note On <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> 00022158
2 -- 91 23 7F 2 B 1 Note On <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> 00022164
2 -- 91 53 7F 2 B 5 Note On <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> 0002216D
2 -- 91 5A 7F 2 F# 6 Note On <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> 00022173
2 -- 91 5F 7F 2 B 6 Note On <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> 0002217A
2 -- 91 4E 7F 2 F# 5 Note On <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> 000221A9
2 -- 81 47 7F 2 B 4 Note Off <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> 00022316
2 -- 81 4E 7F 2 F# 5 Note Off <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> 0002231F
2 -- 81 36 7F 2 F# 3 Note Off <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> 00022326
2 -- 81 5A 7F 2 F# 6 Note Off <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> 0002232B
2 -- 81 23 7F 2 B 1 Note Off <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> 0002232C
2 -- 81 3B 7F 2 B 3 Note Off <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> 0002232D
2 -- 81 3F 7F 2 Eb 4 Note Off <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> 0002232E
2 -- 81 4B 7F 2 Eb 5 Note Off <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> 00022330
2 -- 81 57 7F 2 Eb 6 Note Off <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> 00022331
2 -- 81 5F 7F 2 B 6 Note Off <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> 00022335
2 -- 81 17 7F 2 B 0 Note Off <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> 00022336
2 -- 81 53 7F 2 B 5 Note Off <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Courier New";mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> 00022380
2 -- B1 7B 00 2 --- CC: All Notes Off<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="FR"
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">De :</span></b><span
lang="FR"
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
H.Sergio Alves <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:theatomlabspt@gmail.com"><theatomlabspt@gmail.com></a> <br>
<b>Envoyé :</b> 30 octobre 2025 14:23<br>
<b>À :</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jpdesroc@oricom.ca">jpdesroc@oricom.ca</a><br>
<b>Cc :</b> John Speth <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:johnspeth@yahoo.com"><johnspeth@yahoo.com></a>; SYNTH
DIY <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:synth-diy@synth-diy.org"><synth-diy@synth-diy.org></a><br>
<b>Objet :</b> Re: [sdiy] [Polluriel détecté] Re: Reliable
MIDI recording app for PC.. Or my Sonar X3 Pro DAW is not
set correctly..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Have you tried midi ox to monitor what’s
being sent? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, 30 Oct 2025 at 18:20,
Jean-Pierre Desrochers via Synth-diy <<a
href="mailto:synth-diy@synth-diy.org"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">synth-diy@synth-diy.org</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">My
program only outputs the following MIDI datas:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">NOTE
ON (paper hole detected)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">NOTE
OFF (paper hole finished)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">ALL
NOTES OFF (when rewinding my paper rolls only.
Never else)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">So
there is no ‘big’ MIDI traffic involved here to
the Sonar MIDI input.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">But
the number of voices can go up to around 20 in
some parts<br>
of songs but rarely. Mostly around 10-15 notes
played at the same time.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Mike
Briant asked:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><i><span
lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">>> </span></i></b><b><i><span
lang="EN-CA" style="color:black">What else is
on the USB connectors of the PC ? Anything
else taking lots of bandwidth (a USB3->HDMI
display for example ?)</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I
use a 5 pins DIN MIDI connector to my Focusrite
Scarlett 2i4 USB device.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">No
other USB devices used on my PC during MIDI
recordings.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I
tried using only <b>Note</b>s and remove <b>System
Exclusive</b> from the<br>
‘authorized’ record datas.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">It
improved the recorded datas but still some lags
inserted<br>
here and there..</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-CA"
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
lang="FR"
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">De :</span></b><span
lang="FR"
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
Synth-diy <<a
href="mailto:synth-diy-bounces@synth-diy.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">synth-diy-bounces@synth-diy.org</a>>
<b>De la part de</b> John Speth via Synth-diy<br>
<b>Envoyé :</b> 30 octobre 2025 11:03<br>
<b>À :</b> SYNTH DIY <<a
href="mailto:synth-diy@synth-diy.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">synth-diy@synth-diy.org</a>><br>
<b>Objet :</b> Re: [sdiy] [Polluriel détecté]
Re: Reliable MIDI recording app for PC.. Or my
Sonar X3 Pro DAW is not set correctly..</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><i><span
lang="EN-CA">>> Do the hesitations
happen in the same way each time when you
start playback? </span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-CA">Yes. Same way, same places. The
lags are recorded on the MIDI track.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>"<span lang="EN-CA">The lags are recorded on the
MIDI track."??? Does that mean the gaps are in
your recorded event list? If so, that's not a
playback problem. That's a recording problem. Your
filter is set to record note on/off and sysex.
Does your event list only contain note on/off and
sysex? If you change your filter to not record
sysex, do you still have valid test conditions for
you to see the problem? IOW, if you don't record
sysex, will playback be silent because sysex was
needed? Disable sysex recording as a test. There's
no lasting harm in doing so I assume.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I think the next step is to monitor MIDI data with
a MIDI monitor during recording. There might be some
sort of MIDI data clogging up the MIDI stream. MIDI
is capacity limited. So, for example, if sysex is
constantly being pumped along with note on/off, you
could plausibly see hesitations. Monitor in both
directions (if you're using both directions).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I recently had a Cakewalk experience that showed a
bug regarding .MID files. I took an interest in the
"Situation" by Yazoo MIDI file. When I loaded it
into free Sonar, I had many problems running it
(problems I don't remember). I tried two other .MID
files and never had the same problems. I concluded
that the Yazoo .MID file contained something that
corrupted Cakewalk. I tried the same exercise with
Bandlab and noted the same problem. I concluded that
there is some sort of bug associated with some .MID
files in Cakewalk and that the this mysterious bug
has been around for a while. I would try a different
sequencer. You should be able to find at least a few
free ones, including online sequencers. The bottom
line is: CW has bugs and it probably always will.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>If you haven't done so yet, install and use
MIDI-OX. It's a swiss army knife tool for MIDI. It
has a MIDI monitor and will let you confirm your
MIDI data that you record has no hesitations by
taking Sonar out of the picture.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>JJS<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
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