Yamaha CS80

> So I am wondering if this is normal. I play a few keys on the right
> side of
> the CS80's keyboard. The Brilliance is a tad up. I have a long sustain
> for
> the notes.. Everything is fine.. Sustain is in mode I.
>
> While my right hand is playing melodies.. I then use my left for lower
> keys.
> And the sustain from the high notes get cut out once I use the lower
> notes
> with this setup. Does anyone know why this is happening? Also, is this
>
> normal? The Brilliance sounds as if it is getting cut off or
> something..
> hmmm.
>
> Seems to only happen with the keyboard control brilliance is all the
> way up.
>
>

--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, laurie <laurie@...> wrote:
>
> Yes this is normal and is a beautifull thing about the key
> control..........you have 3 zones.....with a slope.....keyboard
main,
> keyboard lower and keyboard upper .... in sus I , the ringing
oscillator
> whatever from one zone will be assigned the level and brilliance of
a
> different zone played after....meaning if your sustain is long
enough
> and you replay in the upperzone, the notes you heard cut will
> reappear......try drastically tweaking the levels and filters in the
> upper and lower key area.and play polyrythmic chords between these
> zones.....a nice effect I must say........
>
> Scott Metzger wrote:
>
> > So I am wondering if this is normal. I play a few keys on the
right
> > side of
> > the CS80's keyboard. The Brilliance is a tad up. I have a long
sustain
> > for
> > the notes.. Everything is fine.. Sustain is in mode I.
> >
> > While my right hand is playing melodies.. I then use my left for
lower
> > keys.
> > And the sustain from the high notes get cut out once I use the
lower
> > notes
> > with this setup. Does anyone know why this is happening? Also, is
this
> >
> > normal? The Brilliance sounds as if it is getting cut off or
> > something..
> > hmmm.
> >
> > Seems to only happen with the keyboard control brilliance is all
the
> > way up.
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

> For me, these controls are unusable. It's like a monophonic
> behaviour. I don't want sustaining notes from the upper half of the
> keyboard to be influenced (sudden change in filter-cutoff or volume)
> by notes played on the lower part. I never understood why people
> worship these 4 keyboard control sliders in the reviews I read. I
> have all 4 controls centered everytime....
> And playing in sustain mode II is not my thing.
>
> --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, laurie <laurie@...> wrote:
> >
> > Yes this is normal and is a beautifull thing about the key
> > control..........you have 3 zones.....with a slope.....keyboard
> main,
> > keyboard lower and keyboard upper .... in sus I , the ringing
> oscillator
> > whatever from one zone will be assigned the level and brilliance of
> a
> > different zone played after....meaning if your sustain is long
> enough
> > and you replay in the upperzone, the notes you heard cut will
> > reappear......try drastically tweaking the levels and filters in the
>
> > upper and lower key area.and play polyrythmic chords between these
> > zones.....a nice effect I must say........
> >
> > Scott Metzger wrote:
> >
> > > So I am wondering if this is normal. I play a few keys on the
> right
> > > side of
> > > the CS80's keyboard. The Brilliance is a tad up. I have a long
> sustain
> > > for
> > > the notes.. Everything is fine.. Sustain is in mode I.
> > >
> > > While my right hand is playing melodies.. I then use my left for
> lower
> > > keys.
> > > And the sustain from the high notes get cut out once I use the
> lower
> > > notes
> > > with this setup. Does anyone know why this is happening? Also, is
> this
> > >
> > > normal? The Brilliance sounds as if it is getting cut off or
> > > something..
> > > hmmm.
> > >
> > > Seems to only happen with the keyboard control brilliance is all
> the
> > > way up.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>

--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, laurie <laurie@...> wrote:
>
>
> It only affects released keys....Notes held are unaffected by the
> differences across the zones...if you dont like the change adjust
your
> master brightness to make up for it..I have had 2 cs80s since
> 1979...they both did it as I wanted it to.....I use this all the
> time...Nothing else does this....does not make it wrong..makes it a
> characteristic..thus the popularity amongst the 2,000 manufactured
> units..you will also notice that the pitch bend doesnt work on
released
> notes.....I suggest you pick up the arturian version as they dont
have
> this "flaw" in their soft synth yet but we are trying to get it
> implemented.....in the vs 2....

> You're right, the keyboard control sliders only affect released keys
> so I shouldn't have written "sutaining notes". But the release is
> affected by the sustain-slider at the left control ;-)
> Anyway, it's not like the "keyboard follow" function found on other
> synthesizers....
>
> How about the keyklick problem I mentioned, anybody ?
>
> --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, laurie <laurie@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > It only affects released keys....Notes held are unaffected by the
> > differences across the zones...if you dont like the change adjust
> your
> > master brightness to make up for it..I have had 2 cs80s since
> > 1979...they both did it as I wanted it to.....I use this all the
> > time...Nothing else does this....does not make it wrong..makes it a
> > characteristic..thus the popularity amongst the 2,000 manufactured
> > units..you will also notice that the pitch bend doesnt work on
> released
> > notes.....I suggest you pick up the arturian version as they dont
> have
> > this "flaw" in their soft synth yet but we are trying to get it
> > implemented.....in the vs 2....
>
>