Yamaha CS80

My CS-80 ownership just dates back to one month only. Although I am 
immensely impressed by the CS-80's musicality, there is one point that 
still remains quite unclear to me: The usage of the String 1 and String 
2 presets... 

I have found the other presets to be generally quite musical and 
effective. But what about the String1 and String 2 ? How do you use 
these two presets? I find them very bright and harsh to layer each 
other in a dual strings patch or to layer any other sound that the CS-
80 produces.
Lessening the brightness does not even help much.

Ironically, this poor combination is the first sound you hear every 
time you turn on any CS-80. 

Do I miss anything about this sounds? Could Yamaha have wasted two 
valuable memory locations by two awful string sounds on a synthesizer 
that can actually produce breath taking string sounds?

Very often is the combination strings2-strings4 to be used, sometimes
strings2 is tuned1octave upper ;)
M
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From: "Mert Topel" <mert@...>
To: <yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:38 PM
Subject: [yamahacs80] The usage of String 1 and String 2 presets.


> My CS-80 ownership just dates back to one month only. Although I am
> immensely impressed by the CS-80's musicality, there is one point that
> still remains quite unclear to me: The usage of the String 1 and String
> 2 presets...
>
> I have found the other presets to be generally quite musical and
> effective. But what about the String1 and String 2 ? How do you use
> these two presets? I find them very bright and harsh to layer each
> other in a dual strings patch or to layer any other sound that the CS-
> 80 produces.
> Lessening the brightness does not even help much.
>
> Ironically, this poor combination is the first sound you hear every
> time you turn on any CS-80.
>
> Do I miss anything about this sounds? Could Yamaha have wasted two
> valuable memory locations by two awful string sounds on a synthesizer
> that can actually produce breath taking string sounds?
>
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I like the sounds of these strings......They are not as brassy as the
old elka rhapsody strings.....they work really well when detuned and
with the chorus on and well with the wah circuit...very resonant.......

Mert Topel wrote:

>  My CS-80 ownership just dates back to one month only. Although I am
> immensely impressed by the CS-80's musicality, there is one point that
>
> still remains quite unclear to me: The usage of the String 1 and
> String
> 2 presets...
>
> I have found the other presets to be generally quite musical and
> effective. But what about the String1 and String 2 ? How do you use
> these two presets? I find them very bright and harsh to layer each
> other in a dual strings patch or to layer any other sound that the CS-
>
> 80 produces.
> Lessening the brightness does not even help much.
>
> Ironically, this poor combination is the first sound you hear every
> time you turn on any CS-80.
>
> Do I miss anything about this sounds? Could Yamaha have wasted two
> valuable memory locations by two awful string sounds on a synthesizer
> that can actually produce breath taking string sounds?
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I don't generally use String 1 and String 2 together. I always end up 
with a diagonal pattern, String 1 w/String 4, or most often for me, 
String 3 w/String 2. And almost always with the Chorus on, and 
aftertouch modulations of course. The string presets maybe aren't the 
strongest patch in isolation, but tend to work better (maybe) with other 
instruments playing.

-Tim S.
<Minneapolis>


Mert Topel wrote:

> My CS-80 ownership just dates back to one month only. Although I am
> immensely impressed by the CS-80's musicality, there is one point that
> still remains quite unclear to me: The usage of the String 1 and String
> 2 presets...
>
> I have found the other presets to be generally quite musical and
> ef

I use String 3 and then refer to the manual to replicate String 3 
with one of the Memory buttons or Panel II, so I have virtually 
the same sound on both I and II, then I can detune Channel II 
and get a little extra thickness going. I've done this with String 1
and 2, as well, but it doesn't sound as good.
   
  Tommy
                 Tim Siefkes <timsks@...> wrote:     I don't generally use String 1 and String 2 together. I always end up 
with a diagonal pattern, String 1 w/String 4, or most often for me, 
String 3 w/String 2. And almost always with the Chorus on, and 
aftertouch modulations of course. The string presets maybe aren't the 
strongest patch in isolation, but tend to work better (maybe) with other 
instruments playing.

-Tim S.
<Minneapolis>


Mert Topel <mert@...> wrote:
  My CS-80 ownership just dates back to one month only. Although I am 
immensely impressed by the CS-80's musicality, there is one point that 
still remains quite unclear to me: The usage of the String 1 and String 
2 presets... 

I have found the other presets to be generally quite musical and 
effective. But what about the String1 and String 2 ? 
		
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How do you combine srting 2 with string 4?

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Max Fazio 
  To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 12:18 AM
  Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] The usage of String 1 and String 2 presets.


  Very often is the combination strings2-strings4 to be used, sometimes
  strings2 is tuned1octave upper ;)
  M
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Mert Topel" <mert@...>
  To: <yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com>
  Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:38 PM
  Subject: [yamahacs80] The usage of String 1 and String 2 presets.


  > My CS-80 ownership just dates back to one month only. Although I am
  > immensely impressed by the CS-80's musicality, there is one point that
  > still remains quite unclear to me: The usage of the String 1 and String
  > 2 presets...
  >
  > I have found the other presets to be generally quite musical and
  > effective. But what about the String1 and String 2 ? How do you use
  > these two presets? I find them very bright and harsh to layer each
  > other in a dual strings patch or to layer any other sound that the CS-
  > 80 produces.
  > Lessening the brightness does not even help much.
  >
  > Ironically, this poor combination is the first sound you hear every
  > time you turn on any CS-80.
  >
  > Do I miss anything about this sounds? Could Yamaha have wasted two
  > valuable memory locations by two awful string sounds on a synthesizer
  > that can actually produce breath taking string sounds?
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I think Max was really meaning 3 and 4  (?).

Mert Topel <mert@...> wrote:  How do you combine string 2 with string 4?

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Max Fazio 
  To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 12:18 AM
  Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] The usage of String 1 and String 2 presets.


  Very often the combination of strings2-strings4 is used, sometimes
  strings2 is tuned 1octave upper ; )
  M
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Mert Topel" <mert@...>
  To: <yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com>
  Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:38 PM
  Subject: [yamahacs80] The usage of String 1 and String 2 presets.


  > My CS-80 ownership just dates back to one month only. Although I am
  > immensely impressed by the CS-80's musicality, there is one point that
  > still remains quite unclear to me: The usage of the String 1 and String
  > 2 presets...
  >
  > I have found the other presets to be generally quite musical and
  > effective. But what about the String1 and String 2 ? How do you use
  > these two presets? I find them very bright and harsh to layer each
  > other in a dual strings patch or to layer any other sound that the CS-
  > 80 produces.
  > Lessening the brightness does not even help much.
  >
  > Ironically, this poor combination is the first sound you hear every
  > time you turn on any CS-80.
  >
  > Do I miss anything about this sounds? Could Yamaha have wasted two
  > valuable memory locations by two awful string sounds on a synthesizer
  > that can actually produce breath taking string sounds?
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Err...yes (blushes)
;)
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From: "Tommy Priakos" <tpriakos@...>
To: <yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] The usage of String 1 and String 2 presets.


> I think Max was really meaning 3 and 4  (?).
>
> Mert Topel <mert@...> wrote:  How do you combine string 2 with
string 4?
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Max Fazio
>   To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 12:18 AM
>   Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] The usage of String 1 and String 2 presets.
>
>
>   Very often the combination of strings2-strings4 is used, sometimes
>   strings2 is tuned 1octave upper ; )
>   M
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: "Mert Topel" <mert@...>
>   To: <yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com>
>   Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:38 PM
>   Subject: [yamahacs80] The usage of String 1 and String 2 presets.
>
>
>   > My CS-80 ownership just dates back to one month only. Although I am
>   > immensely impressed by the CS-80's musicality, there is one point that
>   > still remains quite unclear to me: The usage of the String 1 and
String
>   > 2 presets...
>   >
>   > I have found the other presets to be generally quite musical and
>   > effective. But what about the String1 and String 2 ? How do you use
>   > these two presets? I find them very bright and harsh to layer each
>   > other in a dual strings patch or to layer any other sound that the CS-
>   > 80 produces.
>   > Lessening the brightness does not even help much.
>   >
>   > Ironically, this poor combination is the first sound you hear every
>   > time you turn on any CS-80.
>   >
>   > Do I miss anything about this sounds? Could Yamaha have wasted two
>   > valuable memory locations by two awful string sounds on a synthesizer
>   > that can actually produce breath taking string sounds?
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Hi
there is way to use strings 1&2 i like
i add the tremolo effect (max depth and low speed), put voice 1 on 8'
and voice 2 on 16', and remove few frequencies with the general cutoff
i like to use that sound to play low chords


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> Err...yes (blushes)
> ;)
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tommy Priakos" <tpriakos@...>
> To: <yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 8:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] The usage of String 1 and String 2 presets.
> 
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> > I think Max was really meaning 3 and 4  (?).
> >
> > Mert Topel <mert@...> wrote:  How do you combine string 2 with
> string 4?
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Max Fazio
> >   To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
> >   Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 12:18 AM
> >   Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] The usage of String 1 and String 2
presets.
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> >   Very often the combination of strings2-strings4 is used, sometimes
> >   strings2 is tuned 1octave upper ; )
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> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: "Mert Topel" <mert@...>
> >   To: <yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com>
> >   Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:38 PM
> >   Subject: [yamahacs80] The usage of String 1 and String 2 presets.
> >
> >
> >   > My CS-80 ownership just dates back to one month only. Although
I am
> >   > immensely impressed by the CS-80's musicality, there is one
point that
> >   > still remains quite unclear to me: The usage of the String 1 and
> String
> >   > 2 presets...
> >   >
> >   > I have found the other presets to be generally quite musical and
> >   > effective. But what about the String1 and String 2 ? How do
you use
> >   > these two presets? I find them very bright and harsh to layer each
> >   > other in a dual strings patch or to layer any other sound that
the CS-
> >   > 80 produces.
> >   > Lessening the brightness does not even help much.
> >   >
> >   > Ironically, this poor combination is the first sound you hear
every
> >   > time you turn on any CS-80.
> >   >
> >   > Do I miss anything about this sounds? Could Yamaha have wasted two
> >   > valuable memory locations by two awful string sounds on a
synthesizer
> >   > that can actually produce breath taking string sounds?
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You know...I remember reading up on Don Airy and the CS80.......Don Airy
used  CS80 brass 1 & 2  on OZZY Osbournes "Mr Crowely" intro(Glissando
Sust 1) and I believe during the Song you hear Strings 1 and 2 with the
pitch ribbon doing downward slides after the "Waiting on Satans
Call"vocal  line......I heard it on the radio today and thought I should
share that........

Tommy Priakos wrote:

>  I think Max was really meaning 3 and 4  (?).
>
> Mert Topel <mert@...> wrote:  How do you combine string 2
> with string 4?
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Max Fazio
>   To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 12:18 AM
>   Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] The usage of String 1 and String 2
> presets.
>
>
>   Very often the combination of strings2-strings4 is used, sometimes
>   strings2 is tuned 1octave upper ; )
>   M
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: "Mert Topel" <mert@...>
>   To: <yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com>
>   Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:38 PM
>   Subject: [yamahacs80] The usage of String 1 and String 2 presets.
>
>
>   > My CS-80 ownership just dates back to one month only. Although I
> am
>   > immensely impressed by the CS-80's musicality, there is one point
> that
>   > still remains quite unclear to me: The usage of the String 1 and
> String
>   > 2 presets...
>   >
>   > I have found the other presets to be generally quite musical and
>   > effective. But what about the String1 and String 2 ? How do you
> use
>   > these two presets? I find them very bright and harsh to layer each
>
>   > other in a dual strings patch or to layer any other sound that the
> CS-
>   > 80 produces.
>   > Lessening the brightness does not even help much.
>   >
>   > Ironically, this poor combination is the first sound you hear
> every
>   > time you turn on any CS-80.
>   >
>   > Do I miss anything about this sounds? Could Yamaha have wasted two
>
>   > valuable memory locations by two awful string sounds on a
> synthesizer
>   > that can actually produce breath taking string sounds?
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Excuse my error.....  Don Airey ....Blizzard of Oz album.....

laurie wrote:

>  You know...I remember reading up on Don Airy and the CS80.......Don
> Airy
> used  CS80 brass 1 & 2  on OZZY Osbournes "Mr Crowely" intro(Glissando
>
> Sust 1) and I believe during the Song you hear Strings 1 and 2 with
> the
> pitch ribbon doing downward slides after the "Waiting on Satans
> Call" vocal  line......I heard it on the radio today and thought I
> should
> share that........
>
> Tommy Priakos wrote:
>
> >  I think Max was really meaning 3 and 4  (?).
> >
> > Mert Topel <mert@...> wrote:  How do you combine string 2
> > with string 4?
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Max Fazio
> >   To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
> >   Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 12:18 AM
> >   Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] The usage of String 1 and String 2
> > presets.
> >
> >
> >   Very often the combination of strings2-strings4 is used, sometimes
>
> >   strings2 is tuned 1octave upper ; )
> >   M
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: "Mert Topel" <mert@...>
> >   To: <yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com>
> >   Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:38 PM
> >   Subject: [yamahacs80] The usage of String 1 and String 2 presets.
> >
> >
> >   > My CS-80 ownership just dates back to one month only. Although I
>
> > am
> >   > immensely impressed by the CS-80's musicality, there is one
> point
> > that
> >   > still remains quite unclear to me: The usage of the String 1 and
>
> > String
> >   > 2 presets...
> >   >
> >   > I have found the other presets to be generally quite musical and
>
> >   > effective. But what about the String1 and String 2 ? How do you
> > use
> >   > these two presets? I find them very bright and harsh to layer
> each
> >
> >   > other in a dual strings patch or to layer any other sound that
> the
> > CS-
> >   > 80 produces.
> >   > Lessening the brightness does not even help much.
> >   >
> >   > Ironically, this poor combination is the first sound you hear
> > every
> >   > time you turn on any CS-80.
> >   >
> >   > Do I miss anything about this sounds? Could Yamaha have wasted
> two
> >
> >   > valuable memory locations by two awful string sounds on a
> > synthesizer
> >   > that can actually produce breath taking string sounds?
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