Yamaha CS80

Hi, I would like to know if there is currently any alternative to the Kenton retrofit kit to control a CS-80 via MIDI ?
Thank you for your informed replies.

On Dec 1, 2012, at 3:36 PM, "scistudio440" <zevault@...> wrote:

> Hi, I would like to know if there is currently any alternative to the Kenton retrofit kit to control a CS-80 via MIDI ?
> Thank you for your informed replies.
>
>

Not that I've ever seen. There were only about 1000 CS80 made. I'd guess there's about half of them left alive and maybe 200 people who'd want and pay for a MIDI mod. I'd also guess that at least half of that last group already has had a Kenton installed so there's not a big market for an extremely complicated interface.

I just wish Kenton would add MIDI out to their kit!

David (with a Kenton kit waiting for me to install - my 4th!)

There's a guy in the Netherlands called Mark Cox who makes a MIDI kit for
the CS 60, I don't know if he also made something for the CS 80. His
website - only useful for contact info - is: *cox*-*electronics*.com . The
CS 60 kit is quite a bit cheaper than the Kenton kit at about EUR 400
*including* fitting it, instead of the EUR 755 for the Kenton kit including
fitting!


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Not surprising it's a lot cheaper. Triggering the notes is pretty simple. About half the Kenton kit is processing poly-aftertouch and integrating that into the CS80. And, again, that's just for MIDI in, not out.

Mark looks like he does some interesting work but his website doesn't have anything on it yet.

--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, Rainer Keizer <rainer.keizer@...> wrote:
>
> There's a guy in the Netherlands called Mark Cox who makes a MIDI kit for
> the CS 60, I don't know if he also made something for the CS 80. His
> website - only useful for contact info - is: *cox*-*electronics*.com . The
> CS 60 kit is quite a bit cheaper than the Kenton kit at about EUR 400
> *including* fitting it, instead of the EUR 755 for the Kenton kit including
> fitting!

Thanks.
1000 made you say ? So synthmuseum is wrong claiming they were 2000 units then ?

--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, David Rogoff <david@...> wrote:
>
>
> On Dec 1, 2012, at 3:36 PM, "scistudio440" <zevault@...> wrote:
>
> > Hi, I would like to know if there is currently any alternative to the Kenton retrofit kit to control a CS-80 via MIDI ?
> > Thank you for your informed replies.
> >
> >
>
> Not that I've ever seen. There were only about 1000 CS80 made. I'd guess there's about half of them left alive and maybe 200 people who'd want and pay for a MIDI mod. I'd also guess that at least half of that last group already has had a Kenton installed so there's not a big market for an extremely complicated interface.
>
> I just wish Kenton would add MIDI out to their kit!
>
> David (with a Kenton kit waiting for me to install - my 4th!)
>

I contacted him already, among others and he doesn't have any for the CS-80 and doesn't plan to unfortunately. He said as David: too complicated...

--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, Rainer Keizer <rainer.keizer@...> wrote:
>
> There's a guy in the Netherlands called Mark Cox who makes a MIDI kit for
> the CS 60, I don't know if he also made something for the CS 80. His
> website - only useful for contact info - is: *cox*-*electronics*.com . The
> CS 60 kit is quite a bit cheaper than the Kenton kit at about EUR 400
> *including* fitting it, instead of the EUR 755 for the Kenton kit including
> fitting!
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

On Dec 2, 2012, at 11:32 AM, scistudio440 <zevault@...> wrote:

> Thanks.
> 1000 made you say ? So synthmuseum is wrong claiming they were 2000 units then ?
>

I'm pretty sure. I've never seen/heard of a serial number under 1000 or over 2000.

Just under 800 made total. The serial numbers end just before 1800


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Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] any other MIDI retrofit kit ?


 

On Dec 2, 2012, at 11:32 AM, scistudio440 <zevault@...> wrote:

> Thanks.
> 1000 made you say ? So synthmuseum is wrong claiming they were 2000 units then ?
>

I'm pretty sure. I've never seen/heard of a serial number under 1000 or over 2000.




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AFAIK from my times being Yamaha Product Specialist, older Yamaha
products for public market start serial numbering from 1000 up. If
there are some machines with numbers under 1000, they are prototypes
or testing pieces.

Maybe that's the reason for a mistake.

Newer products use different coding system, not just simple numbering.

Daniel Forro

On 3 Dec, 2012, at 4:40 AM, David Rogoff wrote:

>
> On Dec 2, 2012, at 11:32 AM, scistudio440 <zevault@...> wrote:
>
>> Thanks.
>> 1000 made you say ? So synthmuseum is wrong claiming they were 2000
>> units then ?
>>
>
> I'm pretty sure. I've never seen/heard of a serial number under
> 1000 or over 2000.

My first Cs80 was serial number 900 something.

> AFAIK from my times being Yamaha Product Specialist, older Yamaha
> products for public market start serial numbering from 1000 up. If
> there are some machines with numbers under 1000, they are prototypes
> or testing pieces.
>
> Maybe that's the reason for a mistake.
>
> Newer products use different coding system, not just simple numbering.
>
> Daniel Forro
>
> On 3 Dec, 2012, at 4:40 AM, David Rogoff wrote:
>
>>
>> On Dec 2, 2012, at 11:32 AM, scistudio440 <zevault@...> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> 1000 made you say ? So synthmuseum is wrong claiming they were 2000
>>> units then ?
>>>
>>
>> I'm pretty sure. I've never seen/heard of a serial number under
>> 1000 or over 2000.
>

Eddie Jobson said he had the first CS80 sold outside of Japan. I think Bill Sautter still has it and could tell us what its serial number is.

David

On Dec 2, 2012, at 3:28 PM, blchrr@... wrote:

> My first Cs80 was serial number 900 something.
>
>> AFAIK from my times being Yamaha Product Specialist, older Yamaha
>> products for public market start serial numbering from 1000 up. If
>> there are some machines with numbers under 1000, they are prototypes
>> or testing pieces.
>>
>> Maybe that's the reason for a mistake.
>>
>> Newer products use different coding system, not just simple numbering.
>>
>> Daniel Forro
>>
>> On 3 Dec, 2012, at 4:40 AM, David Rogoff wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 2, 2012, at 11:32 AM, scistudio440 <zevault@...> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 1000 made you say ? So synthmuseum is wrong claiming they were 2000
>>>> units then ?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm pretty sure. I've never seen/heard of a serial number under
>>> 1000 or over 2000.
>>
>
>

My mistake, my first Cs80 was serial number 1014, bought from Peter Forrest
at the turn of the century of thereabouts.
My current CS80 which ive had since about 2003 has a serial number around
1200 i think.
I always thought there were about 2000 made, but perhaps only 800-1000 after
all. I wonder how many are still working and how many got broken up for
parts or scrapped? Maybe 500ish still survive?
I bet Vangelis still has a few hahaa ;)
Ill never part with mine

> My first Cs80 was serial number 900 something.
>
>> AFAIK from my times being Yamaha Product Specialist, older Yamaha
>> products for public market start serial numbering from 1000 up. If there
>> are some machines with numbers under 1000, they are prototypes or
>> testing pieces.
>>
>> Maybe that's the reason for a mistake.
>>
>> Newer products use different coding system, not just simple numbering.
>>
>> Daniel Forro
>>
>> On 3 Dec, 2012, at 4:40 AM, David Rogoff wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 2, 2012, at 11:32 AM, scistudio440 <zevault@...> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 1000 made you say ? So synthmuseum is wrong claiming they were 2000
>>>> units then ?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm pretty sure. I've never seen/heard of a serial number under 1000
>>> or over 2000.
>>
>
>

According to Kent Spong, there were 786 units made (the first being 1001, the final one 1786).

Vangelis has, I think, nine of them.

Stephen

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> Datum: Tue, 04 Dec 2012 19:14:54 +0000
> Von: blchrr@...
> An: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: [yamahacs80] Re: any other MIDI retrofit kit ?

> My mistake, my first Cs80 was serial number 1014, bought from Peter
> Forrest
> at the turn of the century of thereabouts.
> My current CS80 which ive had since about 2003 has a serial number around
> 1200 i think.
> I always thought there were about 2000 made, but perhaps only 800-1000
> after
> all. I wonder how many are still working and how many got broken up for
> parts or scrapped? Maybe 500ish still survive?
> I bet Vangelis still has a few hahaa ;)
> Ill never part with mine
>
>
> > My first Cs80 was serial number 900 something.
> >
> >> AFAIK from my times being Yamaha Product Specialist, older Yamaha
> >> products for public market start serial numbering from 1000 up. If
> there
> >> are some machines with numbers under 1000, they are prototypes or
> >> testing pieces.
> >>
> >> Maybe that's the reason for a mistake.
> >>
> >> Newer products use different coding system, not just simple numbering.
> >>
> >> Daniel Forro
> >>
> >> On 3 Dec, 2012, at 4:40 AM, David Rogoff wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> On Dec 2, 2012, at 11:32 AM, scistudio440 <zevault@...> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Thanks.
> >>>> 1000 made you say ? So synthmuseum is wrong claiming they were 2000
> >>>> units then ?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> I'm pretty sure. I've never seen/heard of a serial number under 1000
> >>> or over 2000.
> >>
> >
> >
>
>