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feedback please!

feedback please!

2005-05-13 by Max Fazio

Hi all
I just uploaded an ays file for CS-80V featuring the original presets. Let me know where I have to fix something!!
max

Re: [yamahacs80] feedback please!

2005-05-13 by David Rogoff

Max Fazio wrote:

> Hi all
> I just uploaded an ays file for CS-80V featuring the original presets.
> Let me know where I have to fix something!!
> max

Max,

Why are you putting these files in the CS-80 group? There's already a
CS-80v Yahoo group. Most people here don't have the CS80v software. If
you wanted people to compare the sound of the two, it would make more
sense to upload sample/mp3 files.

I don't have a problem with the CS80v program - I think it's actually a
great idea. However, you should have let people know that that it why
you have been asking all the technical questions the last few weeks.
Whether or not you are getting any money for your work on this, it's
still working on developing a commercial product, and people should know
this when helping you.

David

Re: [yamahacs80] feedback please!

2005-05-13 by MARK GRIFFITHS

Max, are you "omissis" from the Arturia boards? If not, he seems to have all sorts of technical info that might help you?
Mark

Max Fazio <faxiomas@...> wrote:
Hi all
I just uploaded an ays file for CS-80V featuring the original presets. Let me know where I have to fix something!!
max

RE: [yamahacs80] feedback please!

2005-05-13 by rlmusic

Considering the sophisticated modeling nature of a plug-in I would have through the manufacturers (Arturia) of this would at least own real CS80 to start with.

 

This might explain why the CS80V sounds nothing remotely like the original…geeze.

 

I don’t think an MP3 will help Dave.

 

Regards

 

Richard

 

www.rlmusic.co.uk

Tel: +44 (0) 1189 472474

Mobile: +44 (0) 7986 470853

 

-----Original Message-----
From: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com [mailto:yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Rogoff
Sent: 13 May 2005 15:43
To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] feedback please!

 

Max Fazio wrote:

> Hi all
> I just uploaded an ays file for CS-80V featuring the original presets.
> Let me know where I have to fix something!!
> max

Max,

Why are you putting these files in the CS-80 group?  There's already a
CS-80v Yahoo group.  Most people here don't have the CS80v software.  If
you wanted people to compare the sound of the two, it would make more
sense to upload sample/mp3 files.

I don't have a problem with the CS80v program - I think it's actually a
great idea.  However, you should have let people know that that it why
you have been asking all the technical questions the last few weeks. 
Whether or not you are getting any money for your work on this, it's
still working on developing a commercial product, and people should know
this when helping you.

David

Re: [yamahacs80] feedback please!

2005-05-13 by Max Fazio

Hi
(quote)Max,

Why are you putting these files in the CS-80 group?  There's already a
CS-80v Yahoo group. 
(eq)
 
This is because the CS-80V group doesn't seem to work, all my mails were rejected by the group master, even my introduction! So am I an ugly guy or are they a crappy group?
Basically, I posted there ( and I subscribed too ) because I am a fan of CS-80 and  since THIS is the place where to find CS-80 owners,( meaning so many skilled people about the machine than I could ever find anywhere else) the most logical thing I could ever do was to submit my work to the experts ( with a virtual version by chance ) to get their skilled opinions...that's all
 
(quote)
you should have let people know that that it why
you have been asking all the technical questions the last few weeks. 
Whether or not you are getting any money for your work on this, it's
still working on developing a commercial product, and people should know
this when helping you.
(eq)
 
 
Sorry to haven't put it before
 
(quote)
Max, are you "omissis" from the Arturia boards? If not, he seems to have all sorts of technical info that might help you?
Mark
(eq)
 
Er.....I'm "that" omissis, so you will notice I'm very few skilled about CS-80.... ;-)
Max
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] feedback please!

Max Fazio wrote:

> Hi all
> I just uploaded an ays file for CS-80V featuring the original presets.
> Let me know where I have to fix something!!
> max

Max,

Why are you putting these files in the CS-80 group?  There's already a
CS-80v Yahoo group.  Most people here don't have the CS80v software.  If
you wanted people to compare the sound of the two, it would make more
sense to upload sample/mp3 files.

I don't have a problem with the CS80v program - I think it's actually a
great idea.  However, you should have let people know that that it why
you have been asking all the technical questions the last few weeks. 
Whether or not you are getting any money for your work on this, it's
still working on developing a commercial product, and people should know
this when helping you.

David

Re: [yamahacs80] feedback please!

2005-05-13 by Max Fazio

Hi Richard
Actually they own a CS-80, it's the developer's own, but it suffers from some troubles with ribbon and needs tuning and calibration for filters and envelopes....BTW, I'm asking all these things for personal knowledge too.
What I can say for CS-80 is that it suffers from sort of a "weak" filter signal, I think that an appropriate softclipping code must be added to filter's algorithm!
Max
----- Original Message -----
From: rlmusic
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 5:00 PM
Subject: RE: [yamahacs80] feedback please!

Considering the sophisticated modeling nature of a plug-in I would have through the manufacturers (Arturia) of this would at least own real CS80 to start with.

 

This might explain why the CS80V sounds nothing remotely like the original…geeze.

 

I don’t think an MP3 will help Dave.

 

Regards

 

Richard

 

www.rlmusic.co.uk

Tel: +44 (0) 1189 472474

Mobile: +44 (0) 7986 470853

 

-----Original Message-----
From: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com [mailto:yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Rogoff
Sent: 13 May 2005 15:43
To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] feedback please!

 

Max Fazio wrote:

> Hi all
> I just uploaded an ays file for CS-80V featuring the original presets.
> Let me know where I have to fix something!!
> max

Max,

Why are you putting these files in the CS-80 group?  There's already a
CS-80v Yahoo group.  Most people here don't have the CS80v software.  If
you wanted people to compare the sound of the two, it would make more
sense to upload sample/mp3 files.

I don't have a problem with the CS80v program - I think it's actually a
great idea.  However, you should have let people know that that it why
you have been asking all the technical questions the last few weeks. 
Whether or not you are getting any money for your work on this, it's
still working on developing a commercial product, and people should know
this when helping you.

David

Re: [yamahacs80] feedback please!

2005-05-13 by Max Fazio

(quote)
What I can say for CS-80
(eq)
I meant CS-80V
M
----- Original Message -----
From: Max Fazio
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] feedback please!

Hi Richard
Actually they own a CS-80, it's the developer's own, but it suffers from some troubles with ribbon and needs tuning and calibration for filters and envelopes....BTW, I'm asking all these things for personal knowledge too.
What I can say for CS-80 is that it suffers from sort of a "weak" filter signal, I think that an appropriate softclipping code must be added to filter's algorithm!
Max
----- Original Message -----
From: rlmusic
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 5:00 PM
Subject: RE: [yamahacs80] feedback please!

Considering the sophisticated modeling nature of a plug-in I would have through the manufacturers (Arturia) of this would at least own real CS80 to start with.

 

This might explain why the CS80V sounds nothing remotely like the original…geeze.

 

I don’t think an MP3 will help Dave.

 

Regards

 

Richard

 

www.rlmusic.co.uk

Tel: +44 (0) 1189 472474

Mobile: +44 (0) 7986 470853

 

-----Original Message-----
From: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com [mailto:yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Rogoff
Sent: 13 May 2005 15:43
To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] feedback please!

 

Max Fazio wrote:

> Hi all
> I just uploaded an ays file for CS-80V featuring the original presets.
> Let me know where I have to fix something!!
> max

Max,

Why are you putting these files in the CS-80 group?  There's already a
CS-80v Yahoo group.  Most people here don't have the CS80v software.  If
you wanted people to compare the sound of the two, it would make more
sense to upload sample/mp3 files.

I don't have a problem with the CS80v program - I think it's actually a
great idea.  However, you should have let people know that that it why
you have been asking all the technical questions the last few weeks. 
Whether or not you are getting any money for your work on this, it's
still working on developing a commercial product, and people should know
this when helping you.

David

RE: [yamahacs80] feedback please!

2005-05-13 by rlmusic

Hi Max

 

Your developer should contact me so we can repair/restore the CS80 for him – I am based in the UK.

 

A fully restored CS80 is something to behold.  Currently, between my restorer and myself, we have 9 x CS80’s in various states of restoration but certainly 5 fully restored and awaiting collection from customers from all over Europe so we have a good “feel” for the instrument, you might say.  The problem with modeling is starting from a good base point. I personally have worked with a number of software companies when covering/developing vintage synthesizers and it’s always interesting to know how they represent an instrument as characteristic as this genre represents.  The Minimoog is a great example as every single one I have ever sold has sounded different so when modeling one then I always wonder which one is it modeled on?

 

Fortunately, the CS80 is more (relative) consistent than the Moog but a thousand times more expressive which to date, I have not experienced from the Arturia software although I do own the CS80V and think it is a nice polysynth plug-in.

 

If your people are considering/working an update to the CS80V and would like to have there original instrument restored correctly then you/they are welcome to contact me or my restorer directly but for the purposes of this forum then this should be done directly – rlmusic@...

 

David – thanks for the opportunity to express this and apologies if this seems off-topic somewhat.

 

Regards

 

Richard Lawson

www.rlmusic.co.uk

Tel: +44 (0) 1189 472474

Mobile: +44 (0) 7986 470853

 

-----Original Message-----
From: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com [mailto:yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Max Fazio
Sent: 13 May 2005 17:28
To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] feedback please!

 

Hi Richard

Actually they own a CS-80, it's the developer's own, but it suffers from some troubles with ribbon and needs tuning and calibration for filters and envelopes....BTW, I'm asking all these things for personal knowledge too.

What I can say for CS-80 is that it suffers from sort of a "weak" filter signal, I think that an appropriate softclipping code must be added to filter's algorithm!

Max

----- Original Message -----

From: rlmusic

Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 5:00 PM

Subject: RE: [yamahacs80] feedback please!

 

Considering the sophisticated modeling nature of a plug-in I would have through the manufacturers (Arturia) of this would at least own real CS80 to start with.

 

This might explain why the CS80V sounds nothing remotely like the original…geeze.

 

I don’t think an MP3 will help Dave.

 

Regards

 

Richard

 

www.rlmusic.co.uk

Tel: +44 (0) 1189 472474

Mobile: +44 (0) 7986 470853

 

-----Original Message-----
From: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com [mailto:yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Rogoff
Sent: 13 May 2005 15:43
To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] feedback please!

 

Max Fazio wrote:

> Hi all
> I just uploaded an ays file for CS-80V featuring the original presets.
> Let me know where I have to fix something!!
> max

Max,

Why are you putting these files in the CS-80 group?  There's already a
CS-80v Yahoo group.  Most people here don't have the CS80v software.  If
you wanted people to compare the sound of the two, it would make more
sense to upload sample/mp3 files.

I don't have a problem with the CS80v program - I think it's actually a
great idea.  However, you should have let people know that that it why
you have been asking all the technical questions the last few weeks. 
Whether or not you are getting any money for your work on this, it's
still working on developing a commercial product, and people should know
this when helping you.

David

 

Re: [yamahacs80] feedback please!

2005-05-13 by Max Fazio

Thx richard
I forwarded your message to Xavier at Arturia.
Max
----- Original Message -----
From: rlmusic
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 7:11 PM
Subject: RE: [yamahacs80] feedback please!

Hi Max

 

Your developer should contact me so we can repair/restore the CS80 for him – I am based in the UK.

 

A fully restored CS80 is something to behold.  Currently, between my restorer and myself, we have 9 x CS80’s in various states of restoration but certainly 5 fully restored and awaiting collection from customers from all over Europe so we have a good “feel” for the instrument, you might say.  The problem with modeling is starting from a good base point. I personally have worked with a number of software companies when covering/developing vintage synthesizers and it’s always interesting to know how they represent an instrument as characteristic as this genre represents.  The Minimoog is a great example as every single one I have ever sold has sounded different so when modeling one then I always wonder which one is it modeled on?

 

Fortunately, the CS80 is more (relative) consistent than the Moog but a thousand times more expressive which to date, I have not experienced from the Arturia software although I do own the CS80V and think it is a nice polysynth plug-in.

 

If your people are considering/working an update to the CS80V and would like to have there original instrument restored correctly then you/they are welcome to contact me or my restorer directly but for the purposes of this forum then this should be done directly – rlmusic@...

 

David – thanks for the opportunity to express this and apologies if this seems off-topic somewhat.

 

Regards

 

Richard Lawson

www.rlmusic.co.uk

Tel: +44 (0) 1189 472474

Mobile: +44 (0) 7986 470853

 

-----Original Message-----
From: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com [mailto:yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Max Fazio
Sent: 13 May 2005 17:28
To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] feedback please!

 

Hi Richard

Actually they own a CS-80, it's the developer's own, but it suffers from some troubles with ribbon and needs tuning and calibration for filters and envelopes....BTW, I'm asking all these things for personal knowledge too.

What I can say for CS-80 is that it suffers from sort of a "weak" filter signal, I think that an appropriate softclipping code must be added to filter's algorithm!

Max

----- Original Message -----

From: rlmusic

Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 5:00 PM

Subject: RE: [yamahacs80] feedback please!

 

Considering the sophisticated modeling nature of a plug-in I would have through the manufacturers (Arturia) of this would at least own real CS80 to start with.

 

This might explain why the CS80V sounds nothing remotely like the original…geeze.

 

I don’t think an MP3 will help Dave.

 

Regards

 

Richard

 

www.rlmusic.co.uk

Tel: +44 (0) 1189 472474

Mobile: +44 (0) 7986 470853

 

-----Original Message-----
From: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com [mailto:yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Rogoff
Sent: 13 May 2005 15:43
To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] feedback please!

 

Max Fazio wrote:

> Hi all
> I just uploaded an ays file for CS-80V featuring the original presets.
> Let me know where I have to fix something!!
> max

Max,

Why are you putting these files in the CS-80 group?  There's already a
CS-80v Yahoo group.  Most people here don't have the CS80v software.  If
you wanted people to compare the sound of the two, it would make more
sense to upload sample/mp3 files.

I don't have a problem with the CS80v program - I think it's actually a
great idea.  However, you should have let people know that that it why
you have been asking all the technical questions the last few weeks. 
Whether or not you are getting any money for your work on this, it's
still working on developing a commercial product, and people should know
this when helping you.

David