Yamaha CS80

Hi.

In my CS80,The Chorus/Tremolo On/Off Button retriggering the ring modulator !!!
This happens every time I active the On/Off button on the chorus/tremolo section.
If I play a chord and hold down the notes,and then Lowering the decay,depht and speed of the ring modulator, and play on off with the button of the chorus tremolo section.

How is this possible?
Also because the chorus and the ring modulators are in two different cards,he OE 1&2 and the PRA !!!
Help Me.
Thanks

Tommaso

let me understand better....


you are using ring mod with all 5 parameters on....correct?

as you hold a chord, you turn off the middle 3 (decay, depth and
speed) leaving attack and ring on..correct?

then you change between chorus and off...

What is being retriggered? the Attack of the RingM Envelope
with some Depth leakage at 0 or

a speed change in the slow ringmod that is still engaged?


the RM envelope should only retrigger if "all" notes have
been lifted...
-----Original message-----
From: "oberheim64" tommysalsero@...
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 06:09:42 -0700
To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [yamahacs80] In my CS80,The Chorus/Tremolo On/Off Button
retriggering the ring modulator !!!

Hi.

In my CS80,The Chorus/Tremolo On/Off Button retriggering the ring
modulator !!!
This happens every time I active the On/Off button on the
chorus/tremolosection.
If I play a chord and hold down the notes,and then Lowering the
decay,depht and speed of the ring modulator, and play on off with the
button of the chorus tremolo section.

How is this possible?
Also because the chorus and the ring modulators are in two different
cards,he OE 1&2 and the PRA !!!
Help Me.
Thanks

Tommaso





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--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "Laurie Curry" <laurie@...> wrote:

> you are using ring mod with all 5 parameters on....correct?

YES

> as you hold a chord, you turn off the middle 3 (decay, depth and
> speed) leaving attack and ring on..correct?
>
> then you change between chorus and off...

No.
With all 5 parameters ON,hold a chord and change only the On/Off button on the chorus/tremolo section.
Every time you change this button, retrigger the envelope.

> What is being retriggered? the Attack of the RingM Envelope
> with some Depth leakage at 0  or
> a speed change in the slow ringmod that is still engaged?

The attack and decay envelope of the Ring modulator.

> the RM envelope should only retrigger if "all" notes have
> been lifted...

Yes,normally, but in my cs80 even when I change that button! ^___^

Might be a bad solder joint, and the mechanical force from pushing a button nearby causes an intermittent contact to trigger the
envelope ...

JH.

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Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 5:41 PM
Subject: [yamahacs80] Re: In my CS80,The Chorus/Tremolo On/Off Button retriggering the ring modulator !!!




--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "Laurie Curry" <laurie@...> wrote:

> you are using ring mod with all 5 parameters on....correct?

YES

> as you hold a chord, you turn off the middle 3 (decay, depth and
> speed) leaving attack and ring on..correct?
>
> then you change between chorus and off...

No.
With all 5 parameters ON,hold a chord and change only the On/Off button on the chorus/tremolo section.
Every time you change this button, retrigger the envelope.

> What is being retriggered? the Attack of the RingM Envelope
> with some Depth leakage at 0  or
> a speed change in the slow ringmod that is still engaged?


The attack and decay envelope of the Ring modulator.

> the RM envelope should only retrigger if "all" notes have
> been lifted...

Yes,normally, but in my cs80 even when I change that button! ^___^




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--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "JH." <jhaible@...> wrote:

>
> Might be a bad solder joint, and the mechanical force from pushing a button nearby causes an intermittent contact to trigger the
> envelope ...
>
> JH.

on which card?

The same on one of my CS80's: retriggering when switching the on/off button. On my other CS80 only now and then...

--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "erikfromhere" <moogsynthex@...> wrote:

>
> The same on one of my CS80's: retriggering when switching the on/off button. On my other CS80 only now and then...
>

May be a defect of all CS-80?
Original CS-80 Bug? ^___^