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VCO153 project in board test phase

VCO153 project in board test phase

2009-03-18 by The Old Crow

Hey folks, its been a while, but I have this thing in testing right 
now.  This is an equivalent circuit to the IG00153.  This differs from 
my MOTM-style modular 153 oscillator in that it is strictly the VCO IC 
with a ramp output, linear CV input, current bias input (FT) for octave 
select and exponential modulation (vibrato) input.  It can use the 
original M-board FET and charge pump capacitor, or those can be removed 
and local ones installed.  I made this mainly to see about replacing 
things at the chip level, but not relying on custom devices.  It is 98% 
SMT parts, with only 3 parts left through-hole for the moment (mainly to 
swap things and see how the specs change).  It no longer needs an input 
offset trimmer, or external frequency compensation of the input summing 
amp.  The DIL-16 footprint in the middle of the board is used to install 
it into an actual IG00153 socket. Generally it is low-profile enough to 
fit between M boards (it does in my CS-50).  It has internal temperature 
compensation of the charge switch and comparator, making it much more 
stable than the original device.  The charge pump core circuit runs on 
its own internal 10V reference supply.

  Eventually I want to craft the entire M-board from standard circuits.  
The waveshaper is done (it is the one I made for the 153 module).  The 
EGs are done.  The filters are done.  I know how to build the VCA, thats 
next.  In any case here is an image of the board, a bit larger than 
actual size.  More later...

http://www.cs80.com/VCO153_pic.gif


Crow
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Re: [yamahacs80] VCO153 project in board test phase

2009-03-18 by Laurie Curry

Simply amazing.......


This osc chip will fit on an 80?

and you allready have a waveshaper circuit...thats my needs right
there...

wow....I just bought 2 CS60 voice boards to desolder....

I may get the ol'eighty up and out of bed afterall....
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From: The Old Crow oldcrow@...
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:39:13 -0600
To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [yamahacs80] VCO153 project in board test phase

Hey folks, its been a while, but I have this thing in testing right 
now. This is an equivalent circuit to the IG00153. This differs from 
my MOTM-style modular 153 oscillator in that it is strictly the VCO IC

with a ramp output, linear CV input, current bias input (FT) for
octave 
select and exponential modulation (vibrato) input. It can use the 
original M-board FET and charge pump capacitor, or those can be
removed 
and local ones installed. I madethis mainly to see about replacing 
things at the chip level, but not relying on custom devices. It is 98%

SMT parts, with only 3 parts left through-hole for the moment (mainly
to 
swap things and see how the specs change). It no longer needs an input

offset trimmer, or external frequency compensation of the input
summing 
amp. The DIL-16 footprint in the middle of the board is used to
install 
it into an actual IG00153 socket. Generally it is low-profile enough
to 
fit between M boards (it does in my CS-50). It has internal
temperature 
compensation of the charge switch and comparator, making it much more 
stable than the original device. The charge pump core circuit runs on 
its own internal 10V reference supply.

Eventually I want to craft the entire M-board from standard circuits. 
The waveshaper is done (it is the one I made for the 153 module). The 
EGs are done. The filters are done. I know how to buildthe VCA, thats 
next. In any case here is an image of the board, a bit larger than 
actual size. More later...

http://www.cs80.com/VCO153_pic.gif


Crow
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Re: [yamahacs80] VCO153 project in board test phase

2009-03-18 by JH.

Very good news, Scott!
In the long run, your work will keep many, many of these machines alive.

JH.
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Subject: [yamahacs80] VCO153 project in board test phase


  Hey folks, its been a while, but I have this thing in testing right 
now.  This is an equivalent circuit to the IG00153.  This differs from 
my MOTM-style modular 153 oscillator in that it is strictly the VCO IC 
with a ramp output, linear CV input, current bias input (FT) for octave 
select and exponential modulation (vibrato) input.  It can use the 
original M-board FET and charge pump capacitor, or those can be removed 
and local ones installed.  I made this mainly to see about replacing 
things at the chip level, but not relying on custom devices.  It is 98% 
SMT parts, with only 3 parts left through-hole for the moment (mainly to 
swap things and see how the specs change).  It no longer needs an input 
offset trimmer, or external frequency compensation of the input summing 
amp.  The DIL-16 footprint in the middle of the board is used to install 
it into an actual IG00153 socket. Generally it is low-profile enough to 
fit between M boards (it does in my CS-50).  It has internal temperature 
compensation of the charge switch and comparator, making it much more 
stable than the original device.  The charge pump core circuit runs on 
its own internal 10V reference supply.

  Eventually I want to craft the entire M-board from standard circuits.  
The waveshaper is done (it is the one I made for the 153 module).  The 
EGs are done.  The filters are done.  I know how to build the VCA, thats 
next.  In any case here is an image of the board, a bit larger than 
actual size.  More later...

http://www.cs80.com/VCO153_pic.gif


Crow
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Re: [yamahacs80] VCO153 project in board test phase

2009-03-18 by rj krohn

WE STAND AT SALUTE!!!!

this is awesome. a drop-in complete m-board pcb, with BOM, would be so huge......wow.



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              Hey folks, its been a while, but I have this thing in testing right 

now.  This is an equivalent circuit to the IG00153.  This differs from 

my MOTM-style modular 153 oscillator in that it is strictly the VCO IC 

with a ramp output, linear CV input, current bias input (FT) for octave 

select and exponential modulation (vibrato) input.  It can use the 

original M-board FET and charge pump capacitor, or those can be removed 

and local ones installed.  I made this mainly to see about replacing 

things at the chip level, but not relying on custom devices.  It is 98% 

SMT parts, with only 3 parts left through-hole for the moment (mainly to 

swap things and see how the specs change).  It no longer needs an input 

offset trimmer, or external frequency compensation of the input summing 

amp.  The DIL-16 footprint in the middle of the board is used to install 

it into an actual IG00153 socket. Generally it is low-profile enough to 

fit between M boards (it does in my CS-50).  It has internal temperature 

compensation of the charge switch and comparator, making it much more 

stable than the original device.  The charge pump core circuit runs on 

its own internal 10V reference supply.



Eventually I want to craft the entire M-board from standard circuits.  

The waveshaper is done (it is the one I made for the 153 module).  The 

EGs are done.  The filters are done.  I know how to build the VCA, thats 

next.  In any case here is an image of the board, a bit larger than 

actual size.  More later...



http://www.cs80. com/VCO153_ pic.gif



Crow

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Re: VCO153 project in board test phase

2009-03-18 by blchrr@homecall.co.uk

Yup this is terrific news! Well done scott :) 
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> now.  This is an equivalent circuit to the IG00153.  This differs from  
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> my MOTM-style modular 153 oscillator in that it is strictly the VCO IC  
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> with a ramp output, linear CV input, current bias input (FT) for octave  
> 
> select and exponential modulation (vibrato) input.  It can use the  
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> original M-board FET and charge pump capacitor, or those can be removed  
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> and local ones installed.  I made this mainly to see about replacing  
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> things at the chip level, but not relying on custom devices.  It is 98%  
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> SMT parts, with only 3 parts left through-hole for the moment (mainly to  
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> swap things and see how the specs change).  It no longer needs an input  
> 
> offset trimmer, or external frequency compensation of the input summing  
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> amp.  The DIL-16 footprint in the middle of the board is used to install  
> 
> it into an actual IG00153 socket. Generally it is low-profile enough to  
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> fit between M boards (it does in my CS-50).  It has internal temperature  
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> compensation of the charge switch and comparator, making it much more  
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> stable than the original device.  The charge pump core circuit runs on  
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> its own internal 10V reference supply. 
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Re: VCO153 project in board test phase

2009-03-18 by Quazimodo

We are saved... there IS a God...!!

Cheers Scott, awesome.


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Re: [yamahacs80] VCO153 project in board test phase

2009-03-23 by Fredrik Segerfalk

Fantastic news! People like you are the ones to be adored!

Fredrik Segerfalk
www.analogsweden.com/blog

The Old Crow wrote:
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> Hey folks, its been a while, but I have this thing in testing right
> now. This is an equivalent circuit to the IG00153. This differs from
> my MOTM-style modular 153 oscillator in that it is strictly the VCO IC
> with a ramp output, linear CV input, current bias input (FT) for octave
> select and exponential modulation (vibrato) input. It can use the
> original M-board FET and charge pump capacitor, or those can be removed
> and local ones installed. I made this mainly to see about replacing
> things at the chip level, but not relying on custom devices. It is 98%
> SMT parts, with only 3 parts left through-hole for the moment (mainly to
> swap things and see how the specs change). It no longer needs an input
> offset trimmer, or external frequency compensation of the input summing
> amp. The DIL-16 footprint in the middle of the board is used to install
> it into an actual IG00153 socket. Generally it is low-profile enough to
> fit between M boards (it does in my CS-50). It has internal temperature
> compensation of the charge switch and comparator, making it much more
> stable than the original device. The charge pump core circuit runs on
> its own internal 10V reference supply.
>
> Eventually I want to craft the entire M-board from standard circuits.
> The waveshaper is done (it is the one I made for the 153 module). The
> EGs are done. The filters are done. I know how to build the VCA, thats
> next. In any case here is an image of the board, a bit larger than
> actual size. More later...
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> http://www.cs80.com/VCO153_pic.gif <http://www.cs80.com/VCO153_pic.gif>
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Re: [yamahacs80] VCO153 project in board test phase

2009-03-26 by Laurie Curry

That is great......


Now I have a question as I recieved 2 CS60 Voice Cards for parts
yesterday........for my CS80.

I have 2 voices in panel 2 that sound out of whack and I believe it is
to do with the Waveshape chip (IG00158) as it only affects the
waves saw and pulse....

Would the best advice be to use the new cards as is with the
"32degree" IG00153's or to attempt the exchanging of the waveshape
chip as it is soldered directly to the board.....

if so....can the IG00158 be socketed if i use a spare socket from
another chip of my spare boards on the reinstallation??, or does it
need to be against the pcb.....


for reference, I have the newer more stable  osc chips with the 
suggested mod which I did back in  the 90s....of course back then I
had no use for the older chips, and lost the instructions at the same
time....


Any suggestions before desoldering???
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-----Original message-----
From: The Old Crowoldcrow@...
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:39:13 -0600
To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [yamahacs80] VCO153 project in board test phase

Hey folks, its been a while, but I have this thing in testing right 
now. This is an equivalent circuit to the IG00153. This differs from 
my MOTM-style modular 153 oscillator in that it is strictly the VCO IC

with a ramp output, linear CV input, current bias input (FT) for
octave 
select and exponential modulation (vibrato) input. It can use the 
original M-board FET and charge pump capacitor, or those can be
removed 
and local ones installed. I made this mainly to see about replacing 
things at the chip level, but not relying on custom devices. It is 98%

SMT parts, with only 3 parts left through-hole for the moment (mainly
to 
swap things and see how the specs change). It no longer needs an input

offset trimmer, or external frequency compensation of the inputsumming

amp. The DIL-16 footprint in the middle of the board is used to
install 
it into an actual IG00153 socket. Generally it is low-profile enough
to 
fit between M boards (it does in my CS-50). It has internal
temperature 
compensation of the charge switch and comparator, making it much more 
stable than the original device. The charge pump core circuit runs on 
its own internal 10V reference supply.

Eventually I want to craft the entire M-board from standard circuits. 
The waveshaper is done (it is the one I made for the 153 module). The 
EGs are done. The filters are done. I know how to build the VCA, thats

next. In any case here is an image of the board, a bit larger than 
actual size. More later...

http://www.cs80.com/VCO153_pic.gif


Crow
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