Yamaha CS80

I pick up my Cs80 today after a KSR restoration @ Kent Spongs place!
Cant wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

Oh and im picking up my Synthex too after a recalibration....... 

Woohoo!!!!! Happy days :)))) 

Regards,
Rob Belcher
www.myspace.com/duplx

killer! i dream of cs-80 ownership...

i am trying to put together a comprehensive sheet of which internal trim pots do what for the synthex. i've got the pitch/mod board, and the voice card now. if you ever come across which trim pots do what on the 4 "motherboards", please drop me a line. thanks.


blchrr@... wrote:                               I pick up my Cs80 today after a KSR restoration @ Kent Spongs place!
 Cant wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
 
 Oh and im picking up my Synthex too after a recalibration....... 
 
 Woohoo!!!!! Happy days :)))) 
 
 Regards,
 Rob Belcher
 www.myspace.com/duplx 
 
     
                               

       
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http://www.infiniteresponse.com/complete%20specs.html


What do you think?

Scott Metzger wrote:
> http://www.infiniteresponse.com/complete%20specs.html
>
>
> What do you think?
>   
um, drool...     Road trip to Austin!!!  Anyone know more about this or
the company?  Anyone in the group live near Austin and could check it
out for the rest of us? Price (I don't think I want to know)?

It could use a bunch of knobs/sliders, program-change buttons (why are
these missing on most new controllers?), and a ribbon.  One of these
(www.sweetwater.com/store/closeup/ReMOTEslZeRO--Main) on top should get
it most of the way there!  Or, even better, this:
www.arturia.com/evolution/en/products/origin/intro.html, running the
CS80 emulation.

 David

p.s. - Google Earth says it's a 1400 mile drive and should take 22
hours!  Almost 1300 miles is a straight ride on the I-10 - I could
actually use my cruise control, which is fairly useless in Southern
California.

A dream came true, Scott, and, even if you won't find a proper ribbon  on it whenever VAX77 will be released, there's a ready-to go yet: www.sknote.it/hardware.htm , look for the "Bow" , it isn't mentioned but it has also zero relative logic, and the price is almost a steal (around 150 €) 
Salutes!
Max

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Scott Metzger 
  To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 5:44 AM
  Subject: [yamahacs80] A new Poly aftertouch controller??!?!?!!




  http://www.infiniteresponse.com/complete%20specs.html

  What do you think?

   

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Hello Max,

Are you dreaming the same as me?
A CS80R (rack, a big one) ? Everything with discrete components?
Midi, and the VAX77? hehe!!
Then a very peacefull feeling of freedom, without any 
IG series inside? ;-).



--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "Max Fazio" <faxiomas@...> wrote:
>
> A dream came true, Scott, and, even if you won't find a proper 
ribbon  on it whenever VAX77 will be released, there's a ready-to go 
yet: www.sknote.it/hardware.htm , look for the "Bow" , it isn't 
mentioned but it has also zero relative logic, and the price is 
almost a steal (around 150 €) 

> Salutes!
> Max
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Scott Metzger 
>   To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 5:44 AM
>   Subject: [yamahacs80] A new Poly aftertouch controller??!?!?!!
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   http://www.infiniteresponse.com/complete%20specs.html
> 
>   What do you think?
> 
>    
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

georgesporopat wrote:
> Are you dreaming the same as me?
> A CS80R (rack, a big one) ? Everything with discrete components?
> Midi, and the VAX77? hehe!!
>   
It may be blasphemy, but I'd take an Origin over a 100-lb analog rack. 
And, the DSP and VSTs are getting better all the time and the computers
are getting faster and cheaper. Within five, or ten years at the most, I
think it's going to be hard to justify analog hardware, even for most of
us fanatics.
> Then a very peacefull feeling of freedom, without any 
> IG series inside? ;-).
I agree that someday this will be needed.  However, at least on the five CS80s + CS60 I've worked on, I haven't seen any Yamaha parts go bad.  All the failures I've seen were either 4xxx CMOS or generic op-amps.


What have other people seen?

 David

An Origin? Would be more close to the real CS than the VST version?
There are some signature sounds on the real CS I never could get
on the VST version. (as guitar 1+Bass for example).

--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, David Rogoff <david@...> wrote:
>
> georgesporopat wrote:
> > Are you dreaming the same as me?
> > A CS80R (rack, a big one) ? Everything with discrete components?
> > Midi, and the VAX77? hehe!!
> >   
> It may be blasphemy, but I'd take an Origin over a 100-lb analog 
rack. 
> And, the DSP and VSTs are getting better all the time and the 
computers
> are getting faster and cheaper. Within five, or ten years at the 
most, I
> think it's going to be hard to justify analog hardware, even for 
most of
> us fanatics.
> > Then a very peacefull feeling of freedom, without any 
> > IG series inside? ;-).
> I agree that someday this will be needed.  However, at least on the 
five CS80s + CS60 I've worked on, I haven't seen any Yamaha parts go 
bad.  All the failures I've seen were either 4xxx CMOS or generic op-
amps.

> 
> 
> What have other people seen?
> 
>  David
>

You are forgot the Dimension D replacement for the CS80 chorus.

:)

To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com

From: jbond007@...
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 23:00:05 +0000
Subject: [yamahacs80] Re: A new Poly aftertouch controller??!?!?!!
















  


    
            Hello Max,



Are you dreaming the same as me?

A CS80R (rack, a big one) ? Everything with discrete components?

Midi, and the VAX77? hehe!!

Then a very peacefull feeling of freedom, without any 

IG series inside? ;-).



--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "Max Fazio" <faxiomas@...> wrote:

>

 












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I don't agree with you David.  Software VST instruments will never touch the real thing.  

From: david@...
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 16:21:26 -0700
Subject: what breaks? - Re: [yamahacs80] Re: A new Poly aftertouch controller??!?!?!!
















  


    
            It may be blasphemy, but I'd take an Origin over a 100-lb analog rack. 

And, the DSP and VSTs are getting better all the time and the computers

are getting faster and cheaper. Within five, or ten years at the most, I

think it's going to be hard to justify analog hardware, even for most of

us fanatics.

 












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I use a Boss CE-20 to replace it, seems good.

--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, Scott Metzger <scottmetzger3d@...> 
wrote:

>
> You are forgot the Dimension D replacement for the CS80 chorus.
> 
> :)
> 
> To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
> From: jbond007@...
> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 23:00:05 +0000
> Subject: [yamahacs80] Re: A new Poly aftertouch controller??!?!?!!
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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>   
> 
> 
>     
>             Hello Max,
> 
> 
> 
> Are you dreaming the same as me?
> 
> A CS80R (rack, a big one) ? Everything with discrete components?
> 
> Midi, and the VAX77? hehe!!
> 
> Then a very peacefull feeling of freedom, without any 
> 
> IG series inside? ;-).
> 
> 
> 
> --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "Max Fazio" <faxiomas@> wrote:
> 
> >
> 
>  
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
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Never is a long time...

-Synth80s

-----Original Message-----
From: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com [mailto:yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Scott Metzger
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 7:16 PM
To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: what breaks? - Re: [yamahacs80] Re: A new Poly aftertouch
controller??!?!?!!

I don't agree with you David.  Software VST instruments will never touch
the real thing.

It sure is but we won't be around to see it...!

Another thing a 'plug-in' cannot replace is the SMELL... I have my new
CS80 opened to try and fix a few faults and it's a smell I love. My
other CS80 also has the same smell - must be like a 27 year old
something in there that I like the smell of. What is it I wonder?

Cheerz.
TOM



--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "Synth80s" <synth80s@...> wrote:

>
> Never is a long time...
> 
> -Synth80s
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com [mailto:yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Scott Metzger
> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 7:16 PM
> To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: what breaks? - Re: [yamahacs80] Re: A new Poly aftertouch
> controller??!?!?!!
> 
> I don't agree with you David.  Software VST instruments will never touch
> the real thing.
>

I think I know what you mean. Mine smells intriguing too. Like a woman, when you love everything about her, even the smelly bits are enchanting.

Quazimodo <noddyspuncture@...> wrote:          It sure is but we won't be around to see it...!

Another thing a 'plug-in' cannot replace is the SMELL... I have my new
CS80 opened to try and fix a few faults and it's a smell I love. My
other CS80 also has the same smell - must be like a 27 year old
something in there that I like the smell of. What is it I wonder?

Cheerz.
TOM

--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "Synth80s" <synth80s@...> wrote:
>
> Never is a long time...
> 
> -Synth80s
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com [mailto:yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Scott Metzger
> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 7:16 PM
> To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: what breaks? - Re: [yamahacs80] Re: A new Poly aftertouch
> controller??!?!?!!
> 
> I don't agree with you David. Software VST instruments will never touch
> the real thing.
>



                         

       
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I like the smell too!! It's like something alive inside ;-)


--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, Tommy Priakos <tpriakos@...> wrote:
>
> I think I know what you mean. Mine smells intriguing too. Like a 
woman, when you love everything about her, even the smelly bits are 
enchanting.
> 
> Quazimodo <noddyspuncture@...> wrote:          It sure is but we 
won't be around to see it...!
> 
> Another thing a 'plug-in' cannot replace is the SMELL... I have my 
new
> CS80 opened to try and fix a few faults and it's a smell I love. My
> other CS80 also has the same smell - must be like a 27 year old
> something in there that I like the smell of. What is it I wonder?
> 
> Cheerz.
> TOM
> 
> --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "Synth80s" <synth80s@> wrote:
> >
> > Never is a long time...
> > 
> > -Synth80s
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com] On
> > Behalf Of Scott Metzger
> > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 7:16 PM
> > To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: what breaks? - Re: [yamahacs80] Re: A new Poly 
aftertouch
> > controller??!?!?!!
> > 
> > I don't agree with you David. Software VST instruments will never 
touch
> > the real thing.
> >
> 
> 
> 
>                          
> 
>        
> ---------------------------------
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> 
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>

All vintage synths with some decent character got a special scent. My 
Arp 2600 also smells lovely :)

Fredrik Segerfalk
www.segerfalk.com
www.analogsweden.com

georgesporopat wrote:

>
> I like the smell too!! It's like something alive inside ;-)
>
> --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:yamahacs80%40yahoogroups.com>, Tommy Priakos <tpriakos@...> wrote:
> >
> > I think I know what you mean. Mine smells intriguing too. Like a
> woman, when you love everything about her, even the smelly bits are
> enchanting.
> >
> > Quazimodo <noddyspuncture@...> wrote: It sure is but we
> won't be around to see it...!
> >
> > Another thing a 'plug-in' cannot replace is the SMELL... I have my
> new
> > CS80 opened to try and fix a few faults and it's a smell I love. My
> > other CS80 also has the same smell - must be like a 27 year old
> > something in there that I like the smell of. What is it I wonder?
> >
> > Cheerz.
> > TOM
> >
> > --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:yamahacs80%40yahoogroups.com>, "Synth80s" <synth80s@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Never is a long time...
> > >
> > > -Synth80s
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:yamahacs80%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:yamahacs80%40yahoogroups.com>] On
> > > Behalf Of Scott Metzger
> > > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 7:16 PM
> > > To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com <mailto:yamahacs80%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: RE: what breaks? - Re: [yamahacs80] Re: A new Poly
> aftertouch
> > > controller??!?!?!!
> > >
> > > I don't agree with you David. Software VST instruments will never
> touch
> > > the real thing.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
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> Yahoo! FareChase.
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> >
>
>

That Yamaha CS smell, if it's the same one as comes from my CS-50, is also 
found in Nintendo cartridges from the 8 bit and 16 bit era. NES games, 
especially the instruction booklets, have the same distinctive smell. No 
idea what it is, some permitted compound in Japan maybe? (that's not 
permitted elsewhere perhaps)

On Oct 2 2007, Fredrik Segerfalk wrote:

>All vintage synths with some decent character got a special scent. My 
>Arp 2600 also smells lovely :)
>
>Fredrik Segerfalk
>www.segerfalk.com
>www.analogsweden.com
>
>georgesporopat wrote:
>>
>> I like the smell too!! It's like something alive inside ;-)
>>
>> --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com 
>> <mailto:yamahacs80%40yahoogroups.com>, Tommy Priakos <tpriakos@...> 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I think I know what you mean. Mine smells intriguing too. Like a
>> woman, when you love everything about her, even the smelly bits are
>> enchanting.
>> >
>> > Quazimodo <noddyspuncture@...> wrote: It sure is but we
>> won't be around to see it...!
>> >
>> > Another thing a 'plug-in' cannot replace is the SMELL... I have my
>> new
>> > CS80 opened to try and fix a few faults and it's a smell I love. My
>> > other CS80 also has the same smell - must be like a 27 year old
>> > something in there that I like the smell of. What is it I wonder?
>> >
>> > Cheerz.
>> > TOM
>> >
>> > --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com 
>> <mailto:yamahacs80%40yahoogroups.com>, "Synth80s" <synth80s@> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Never is a long time...
>> > >
>> > > -Synth80s
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com 
>> <mailto:yamahacs80%40yahoogroups.com>
>> [mailto:yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com 
>> <mailto:yamahacs80%40yahoogroups.com>] On
>> > > Behalf Of Scott Metzger
>> > > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 7:16 PM
>> > > To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com <mailto:yamahacs80%40yahoogroups.com>
>> > > Subject: RE: what breaks? - Re: [yamahacs80] Re: A new Poly
>> aftertouch
>> > > controller??!?!?!!
>> > >
>> > > I don't agree with you David. Software VST instruments will never
>> touch
>> > > the real thing.
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ---------------------------------
>> > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with
>> Yahoo! FareChase.
>> >
>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> >
>>
>>  
>
>

Mine smells like stale mouse urine.

I think it spent some time in a storage room at Joseph River's 
girlfriend's  horse ranch.

Still, I have developed a Pavlovian conditioning that makes my brain 
squirt out endorphins every time I smell it.....

To quote that creepy old man in the movie Christine:
"....it's the finest smell in the world. Except maybe for pussy!"

;-P

One of the signature smells in a lot of Japanese instruments from the 
60s & 70s comes from particles of smoke from the strong tobacco the 
factory workers tended to light up during assembly shifts.  The flux 
traps these particles and then hardens as it absorbs moisture and slowly 
glassifies over time.  I get a roomful of tobacco odor every time I 
re-chip a circuit board in a CS-80.  Melt the flux during desoldering, 
and the tobacco particles and released along with lead fumes, etc.

  The other particular smell is that of aged wood.  The chassis of the 
CS machines, largely being wood, age over time and absorb all sorts of 
odors in the process, the result of which is that "vintage" smell.

Crow
/**/

Watch out. Might be left over Radiation from the US dropping the bomb.  Don't sniff too hard.


To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.comFrom: rga24@...: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 22:59:10 +0100Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] Re: What smells?



That Yamaha CS smell, if it's the same one as comes from my CS-50, is also found in Nintendo cartridges from the 8 bit and 16 bit era. NES games, especially the instruction booklets, have the same distinctive smell. No idea what it is, some permitted compound in Japan maybe? (that's not permitted elsewhere perhaps)
 
.  







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My Mini Moog smelt lovely like the malt in the brewery where the band I bought it from had their rehearsal space.

No thoughts about my CS80, though.

Stephen

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Fredrik Segerfalk 
  To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 10:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] Re: What smells?


  All vintage synths with some decent character got a special scent. My 
  Arp 2600 also smells lovely :)

  Fredrik Segerfalk
  www.segerfalk.com
  www.analogsweden.com

  georgesporopat wrote:
  >
  > I like the smell too!! It's like something alive inside ;-)
  >
  > --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com 
  > <mailto:yamahacs80%40yahoogroups.com>, Tommy Priakos <tpriakos@...> wrote:
  > >
  > > I think I know what you mean. Mine smells intriguing too. Like a
  > woman, when you love everything about her, even the smelly bits are
  > enchanting.
  > >
  > > Quazimodo <noddyspuncture@...> wrote: It sure is but we
  > won't be around to see it...!
  > >
  > > Another thing a 'plug-in' cannot replace is the SMELL... I have my
  > new
  > > CS80 opened to try and fix a few faults and it's a smell I love. My
  > > other CS80 also has the same smell - must be like a 27 year old
  > > something in there that I like the smell of. What is it I wonder?
  > >
  > > Cheerz.
  > > TOM
  > >
  > > --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com 
  > <mailto:yamahacs80%40yahoogroups.com>, "Synth80s" <synth80s@> wrote:
  > > >
  > > > Never is a long time...
  > > >
  > > > -Synth80s
  > > >
  > > > -----Original Message-----
  > > > From: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com 
  > <mailto:yamahacs80%40yahoogroups.com>
  > [mailto:yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com 
  > <mailto:yamahacs80%40yahoogroups.com>] On
  > > > Behalf Of Scott Metzger
  > > > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 7:16 PM
  > > > To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com <mailto:yamahacs80%40yahoogroups.com>
  > > > Subject: RE: what breaks? - Re: [yamahacs80] Re: A new Poly
  > aftertouch
  > > > controller??!?!?!!
  > > >
  > > > I don't agree with you David. Software VST instruments will never
  > touch
  > > > the real thing.
  > > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
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  > Yahoo! FareChase.
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The Infinite Response website (http://www.infiniteresponse.com/) says
they'll have several versions of the VAX77 keyboard at NAMM.  Someone
from IR or Arturia needs to make sure a VAX77 and an Origin are hooked
up together to try the poly aftertouch response!  The Origin is
finally real (but where can I see it in the US?) and the VAX77 is
almost real.  This could be an amazing combination! As big as
chocolate with peanut butter (which I personally hate, but it is popular)!

PS - anyone know where I can get a pass for NAMM?   Please?  I'll buy
you lunch...

Even more amazing would be if the Studio Electronics Code/Omega with  
CS80 filters would respond to polyphonic aftertouch.  To get a full  
set of 8 dual-channel voices with independent HPF/LPF (like on the  
real CS80) you would actually need two Omegas though!  Then you'd get  
an extra oscillator on each voice which would be cool.  I have been  
using dual multimode on the Code (sounds amazing) but you only get 4  
voices that way and right now it is not possible to save voice edits  
in multi mode (no worse than the CS80 I guess).  And of course for now  
there is only channel aftertouch.

One can dream...

Kent



On Nov 21, 2008, at 4:44 PM, David Rogoff wrote:

The Infinite Response website (http://www.infiniteresponse.com/) says
they'll have several versions of the VAX77 keyboard at NAMM. Someone
from IR or Arturia needs to make sure a VAX77 and an Origin are hooked
up together to try the poly aftertouch response! The Origin is
finally real (but where can I see it in the US?) and the VAX77 is
almost real. This could be an amazing combination! As big as
chocolate with peanut butter (which I personally hate, but it is  
popular)!

PS - anyone know where I can get a pass for NAMM? Please? I'll buy
you lunch...






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They finally have a good video up on Sonic State:
http://www.sonicstate.com/news/2009/01/29/wnamm09-polyphonic-aftertouch-in-a-folding-keyboard/

Should be out in May.  Now we have to have them add a ribbon and a
bunch of sliders to it!  Kind-of expensive, but to have a 29lb (~13kg)
Poly-Aftertouch keyboard that goes in a backpack that can be carried
put in an overhead on a plane is pretty cool!

Too bad you have to choose the key weight up front.  I had a Peavy
years ago that had a big lever to adjust the entire action. I also
remember an very old article from Computer Music Journal about a
keyboard that used electromagnets to dynamically adjust the action,
including adding stuff like the click of a harpsichord jack hitting!
They only built a single octave worth and it looked like it weighed
50lbs just for that!

 David



--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, Scott Metzger <scottmetzger3d@...>
wrote:

>
> 
> 
> http://www.infiniteresponse.com/complete%20specs.html
> 
> 
> What do you think?
>

I am really looking forward to checking this out at the Frankfurt show.

However the questions remains - and I guess it has been discussed here
in the forum a while ago - for those who want to mainly use it with a
CS80 (like myself): what is the the proper key weight to choose?

Cheers
Worsel

--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "David Rogoff" <david@...> wrote:
>
> They finally have a good video up on Sonic State:
>
http://www.sonicstate.com/news/2009/01/29/wnamm09-polyphonic-aftertouch-in-a-folding-keyboard/

> 
> Should be out in May.  Now we have to have them add a ribbon and a
> bunch of sliders to it!  Kind-of expensive, but to have a 29lb (~13kg)
> Poly-Aftertouch keyboard that goes in a backpack that can be carried
> put in an overhead on a plane is pretty cool!
> 
> Too bad you have to choose the key weight up front.  I had a Peavy
> years ago that had a big lever to adjust the entire action. I also
> remember an very old article from Computer Music Journal about a
> keyboard that used electromagnets to dynamically adjust the action,
> including adding stuff like the click of a harpsichord jack hitting!
> They only built a single octave worth and it looked like it weighed
> 50lbs just for that!
> 
>  David
> 
> 
> 
> --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, Scott Metzger <scottmetzger3d@>
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > http://www.infiniteresponse.com/complete%20specs.html
> > 
> > 
> > What do you think?
> >
>

the Heaviest.......they were talking about adding a new
heavier weight at namm09 to the request of the people that checked
out the booth......the action is responsive to touch.... so if you
play lightly, the keys go down easily and send out low velocity, but
if you strike it forcefully, it reacts with the weighted action more
prominently.....and of course sends out the maximum velocity.....this
allows for its speedy key response........the fastest ever....

They were talking about canceling the lightest weight as no one really
took to it.....a heavier action was the request by most piano
players....my measurements on my 80 also showed me a slightly
heavier weight  would be needed to send the key down and be be CS80
accurate....

-----Original message-----
From: "slipperysoles" slipperysoles@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:23:48 -0700
To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [yamahacs80] Re: A new Poly aftertouch controller??!?!?!!

I am really looking forward to checking this out at the Frankfurt
show.

However the questions remains - and I guess it has been discussed here
in the forum a while ago - for those who want to mainly use it with a
CS80 (like myself): what is the the proper key weight to choose?

Cheers
Worsel

--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "David Rogoff" wrote:
>
> They finally have a good video up on Sonic State:
>
http://www.sonicstate.com/news/2009/01/29/wnamm09-polyphonic-aftertouch-in-a-folding-keyboard/
> 
> Should be out in May. Now we have to have them add a ribbon and a
> bunch of sliders to it! Kind-of expensive, but to have a 29lb
(~13kg)
> Poly-Aftertouch keyboard that goes in a backpack that can be carried
> put in an overhead on a plane is pretty cool!
> 
> Too bad you have to choose the key weight up front. I had aPeavy
> years ago that had a big lever to adjust the entire action. I also
> remember an very old article from Computer Music Journal about a
> keyboard that used electromagnets to dynamically adjust the action,
> including adding stuff like the click of a harpsichord jack hitting!
> They only built a single octave worth and it looked like it weighed
> 50lbs just for that!
> 
> David
> 
> 
> 
> --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, Scott Metzger 
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > http://www.infiniteresponse.com/complete%20specs.html
> > 
> > 
> > What do you think?
> >
>






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