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Keyboard stand for CS-80

Keyboard stand for CS-80

2007-09-18 by dark_november2000

I've been loosely watching this group for some time as a CS-50 and CS-
60 owner. Seems I've just upgraded to a full member (;->), though my 
object of desire is still located at the other end of the world.

So ... in anticipation of the beast that will soon be taking over my 
little studio ... I'm looking for a keyboard stand for a CS-80.
Most of what I find in stores isn't fit for 200 pounds.

Can you recommend anything?
Doesn't even have to be dedicated for keyboards ...
I even think about making my own, with castors for moving it from the 
wall for servicing and moving it back for playing.

Any ideas, any recommendations would be welcome.

JH.

Re: Keyboard stand for CS-80

2007-09-18 by blchrr@homecall.co.uk

Hey Juergen, 

Welcome to the club mate.. :)
I thought i remembered you saying years ago that youd never get an 80! 

I think this stand will do the job for you: 

http://www.quiklok.com/catalog/?p=productsMore&iProduct=96&sName=Z-716 

Hope you enjoy your 80, ive just had mine restored, will be picking it up 
shortly... 

Cheers,
Rob. 

> I've been loosely watching this group for some time as a CS-50 and CS-
> 60 owner. Seems I've just upgraded to a full member (;->), though my 
> object of desire is still located at the other end of the world. 
> 
> So ... in anticipation of the beast that will soon be taking over my 
> little studio ... I'm looking for a keyboard stand for a CS-80.
> Most of what I find in stores isn't fit for 200 pounds. 
> 
> Can you recommend anything?
> Doesn't even have to be dedicated for keyboards ...
> I even think about making my own, with castors for moving it from the 
> wall for servicing and moving it back for playing. 
> 
> Any ideas, any recommendations would be welcome. 
> 
> JH. 
> 
 


Regards,
Rob Belcher
www.myspace.com/duplx

Re: Keyboard stand for CS-80

2007-09-18 by erikfromhere

I mentioned it before in this group, I use pedestals (as used in 
office-furniture) as stands for both my CS80's. Dimensions are: 60cm 
height, 80cm length, 40cm depth. They have 4 casters (not too small) 
so you can easily move the CS80 around. Besides, you can use the 
drawers to store your manuals, parts etc. There is enough room left 
for your legs and feet since the pedestal is at the flat part of the 
CS80. When sitting in front of the CS80, the drawers open at the 
left or rigt side to give you an idea. I placed some wooden bars 
under the synth not to obstruct ventilation.
Good luck with restoring (do you have to ?)your CS80 when it gets 
in !  

--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "dark_november2000" <jhaible@...> 
wrote:
>
> I've been loosely watching this group for some time as a CS-50 and 
CS-
> 60 owner. Seems I've just upgraded to a full member (;->), though 
my 
> object of desire is still located at the other end of the world.
> 
> So ... in anticipation of the beast that will soon be taking over 
my 
> little studio ... I'm looking for a keyboard stand for a CS-80.
> Most of what I find in stores isn't fit for 200 pounds.
> 
> Can you recommend anything?
> Doesn't even have to be dedicated for keyboards ...
> I even think about making my own, with castors for moving it from 
the 
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> wall for servicing and moving it back for playing.
> 
> Any ideas, any recommendations would be welcome.
> 
> JH.
>

Re: [yamahacs80] Keyboard stand for CS-80

2007-09-18 by Fredrik Segerfalk

Congrats to your baby :)

I use this and it works well : http://www.thomann.de/se/millenium_ks2010.htm

Fredrik Segerfalk
www.segerfalk.com
www.analogsweden.com

dark_november2000 wrote:
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>
> I've been loosely watching this group for some time as a CS-50 and CS-
> 60 owner. Seems I've just upgraded to a full member (;->), though my
> object of desire is still located at the other end of the world.
>
> So ... in anticipation of the beast that will soon be taking over my
> little studio ... I'm looking for a keyboard stand for a CS-80.
> Most of what I find in stores isn't fit for 200 pounds.
>
> Can you recommend anything?
> Doesn't even have to be dedicated for keyboards ...
> I even think about making my own, with castors for moving it from the
> wall for servicing and moving it back for playing.
>
> Any ideas, any recommendations would be welcome.
>
> JH.
>
>

Re: Keyboard stand for CS-80

2007-09-18 by dark_november2000

> Welcome to the club mate.. :)

Thanks!

> I thought i remembered you saying years ago that youd never get an 
80! 

There was a time when I was quite frustrated with CS-80. Driving to 
Switzerland to pick one up, and then returning without it. In 
retrospect, I should have bought it despite its unexpected flaws, the 
prices for CS-80 going up and up.
Anyway - now I'll have one.


> I think this stand will do the job for you: 
> 
> http://www.quiklok.com/catalog/?p=productsMore&iProduct=96&sName=Z-
716 

Thanks for the link! 

> Hope you enjoy your 80, ive just had mine restored, will be picking 
it up 
> shortly... 

Mine has also been recently serviced, from the good hands of The Old 
Crow, and I'll get it from him directly.

I'm so excited!

I only don't know how to tell it to my heavily modified - just 
recently - Farfisa VIP 500 that she'll have to go, to make room for 
something superior ... (;->)

JH.

Re: Keyboard stand for CS-80

2007-09-18 by dark_november2000

> I mentioned it before in this group, I use pedestals (as used in 
> office-furniture) as stands for both my CS80's. Dimensions are: 
60cm 
> height, 80cm length, 40cm depth. They have 4 casters (not too 
small) 
> so you can easily move the CS80 around. 

That sounds very close to what I have in mind!
I'll have to find something with the right height, though, to play 
the CS-80 comfortably while sitting down.

> Good luck with restoring (do you have to ?)your CS80 when it gets 
> in ! 

It has just been serviced. I guess I'll have to re-tune it after its 
voyage to Germany, and I'll have to re-connect the PSU for something 
close to 230V.

220V probably was a factory option. My idea is not to use two 110V 
windings in series, but a 110V and the 117V, if the topology allows 
it. That would reduce stress on the PSU components and also reduce 
heat a little.
Has anybody made such a 227V modification on his CS-80 sucessfully 
yet?

JH.


 
> 
> --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "dark_november2000" <jhaible@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > I've been loosely watching this group for some time as a CS-50 
and 
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> CS-
> > 60 owner. Seems I've just upgraded to a full member (;->), though 
> my 
> > object of desire is still located at the other end of the world.
> > 
> > So ... in anticipation of the beast that will soon be taking over 
> my 
> > little studio ... I'm looking for a keyboard stand for a CS-80.
> > Most of what I find in stores isn't fit for 200 pounds.
> > 
> > Can you recommend anything?
> > Doesn't even have to be dedicated for keyboards ...
> > I even think about making my own, with castors for moving it from 
> the 
> > wall for servicing and moving it back for playing.
> > 
> > Any ideas, any recommendations would be welcome.
> > 
> > JH.
> >
>

Re: Keyboard stand for CS-80

2007-09-18 by dark_november2000

> I use this and it works well : 
http://www.thomann.de/se/millenium_ks2010.htm

Thanks for the link!

Thomann! That was the first one I searched last night; their 
headquarters are not far from my home. Strange that it didn't apear on 
their German site. Or maybe I didn't even look closer because I had't 
trusted an "X" shape stand to carry 100kg ...

Well, they say 100kg, and I'd gladly have some reserve, in case I 
accidetially lean on it when I play in the night until until I fall 
asleep. :)

JH.

Re: Keyboard stand for CS-80

2007-09-18 by dark_november2000

> I mentioned it before in this group, I use pedestals (as used in 
> office-furniture) as stands for both my CS80's. Dimensions are: 60cm 
> height, 80cm length, 40cm depth. They have 4 casters (not too small) 

In order to find the right thing (that might have slightly different 
dimensions) - did I understand this right:

(1) You only need to support the (relative small) flat part of the 
underside?

(2) The crews to open everything up are _not_ in th eflat part, but 
all in the sloped part right?

(3) What's the exact distance between the screws (from left to right) 
on the underside? (to avoid something in th estand to _just_ 
accidentially being the same width.

(4) Most important: What is the exact difference in height between the 
flat underside (where the synth will rest on the stand), and the top 
surface of the white keys?  


I need (4) to calculate the height of the stand or pedastal including 
casters, to achive my comfortable playing height. On my other synths, 
I've optimized this by sawing off pices from the wooden legs I'm using.
With the CS-80, I'd rather know beforehand, so I can get it on top of 
this right when it arrives.

If you, or anybody else, just has a measuring tape at hand, I would be 
deeply grateful!

JH.

Re: Keyboard stand for CS-80

2007-09-18 by erikfromhere

--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "dark_november2000" <jhaible@...> 
wrote:
  
> (1) You only need to support the (relative small) flat part of the 
> underside?
Yes, the weight is at the back, the original steel support does the 
same, it's bolted to the flat underside of the CS80.
> 
> (2) The crews to open everything up are _not_ in th eflat part, 
but 
> all in the sloped part right?
Most are, I took the screws out so I can open the lid if I want to.
> 
> (3) What's the exact distance between the screws (from left to 
right) 
> on the underside? (to avoid something in th estand to _just_ 
> accidentially being the same width.
If I remeber well: leave the inclined part free, than you can access 
all screws
> 
> (4) Most important: What is the exact difference in height between 
the 
> flat underside (where the synth will rest on the stand), and the 
top 
> surface of the white keys?  
24 cm

Re: Keyboard stand for CS-80

2007-09-18 by erikfromhere

--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "dark_november2000" <jhaible@...> 
wrote:
> (4) Most important: What is the exact difference in height between 
the 
> flat underside (where the synth will rest on the stand), and the top 
> surface of the white keys?
  
I'm sorry, it's 14,5 cm !!

Re: [yamahacs80] Re: Keyboard stand for CS-80

2007-09-18 by JH.

Thank you!

JH.
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From: "erikfromhere" <moogsynthex@...>
To: <yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 5:24 PM
Subject: [yamahacs80] Re: Keyboard stand for CS-80


--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "dark_november2000" <jhaible@...> 
wrote:
  
> (1) You only need to support the (relative small) flat part of the 
> underside?
Yes, the weight is at the back, the original steel support does the 
same, it's bolted to the flat underside of the CS80.
> 
> (2) The crews to open everything up are _not_ in th eflat part, 
but 
> all in the sloped part right?
Most are, I took the screws out so I can open the lid if I want to.
> 
> (3) What's the exact distance between the screws (from left to 
right) 
> on the underside? (to avoid something in th estand to _just_ 
> accidentially being the same width.
If I remeber well: leave the inclined part free, than you can access 
all screws
> 
> (4) Most important: What is the exact difference in height between 
the 
> flat underside (where the synth will rest on the stand), and the 
top 
> surface of the white keys?  
24 cm




 
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Re: [yamahacs80] Re: Keyboard stand for CS-80

2007-09-18 by JH.

> (4) Most important: What is the exact difference in height between
the
> flat underside (where the synth will rest on the stand), and the top
> surface of the white keys?

I'm sorry, it's 14,5 cm !!

Ok, thanks. That means I'll be looking for a stand (or will be building a 
stand) that is only 59cm high, casters included.

I'm sure I'll find something like that.

I forgot to ask (in case I'll be constructing something myself): how deep 
(front to rear) is the flat part?

JH.





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Re: Keyboard stand for CS-80

2007-09-18 by erikfromhere

--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "JH." <jhaible@...> wrote:
> I forgot to ask (in case I'll be constructing something myself): how 
deep front to rear) is the flat part?

it's 44 cm. Remember to make sure you leave some 2 cm ventilation-area 
free inbetween the stand and the CS80.

By the way, I find the original stand too high to sit at and too low to 
stand at...

Re: [yamahacs80] Re: Keyboard stand for CS-80

2007-09-18 by JH.

>I mentioned it before in this group, I use pedestals (as used in
>office-furniture) as stands for both my CS80's. Dimensions are: 60cm
>height, 80cm length, 40cm depth.

That's almost what I have calculated as the ideal height for me after you 
gave me the 14.5cm
bottom to keytop. (I checked: it's almost the same on my CS-50, btw.)
I calculated 59 cm - but that would be including casters and the wooden 
bars.

>I placed some wooden bars
>under the synth not to obstruct ventilation.

And the bars go front-rear (40cm each), or left-right (80cm each) ?

JH.

Re: [yamahacs80] Re: Keyboard stand for CS-80

2007-09-18 by Wavecomputer360

I´m sure it´s been mentioned already but Koenig and Meyer make a nice keyboard stand for heavier electronic pianos and the like which carries zp to, I think, 200kg, plus it has the option of adding another tier to it for another keyboard on top of the CS80. Check the Music Store or Thomann catalogues.

Ruka would be another choice...

Stephen

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  From: blchrr@... 
  To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 1:44 PM
  Subject: [yamahacs80] Re: Keyboard stand for CS-80


  Hey Juergen, 

  Welcome to the club mate.. :)
  I thought i remembered you saying years ago that youd never get an 80! 

  I think this stand will do the job for you: 

  http://www.quiklok.com/catalog/?p=productsMore&iProduct=96&sName=Z-716 

  Hope you enjoy your 80, ive just had mine restored, will be picking it up 
  shortly... 

  Cheers,
  Rob. 

  > I've been loosely watching this group for some time as a CS-50 and CS-
  > 60 owner. Seems I've just upgraded to a full member (;->), though my 
  > object of desire is still located at the other end of the world. 
  > 
  > So ... in anticipation of the beast that will soon be taking over my 
  > little studio ... I'm looking for a keyboard stand for a CS-80.
  > Most of what I find in stores isn't fit for 200 pounds. 
  > 
  > Can you recommend anything?
  > Doesn't even have to be dedicated for keyboards ...
  > I even think about making my own, with castors for moving it from the 
  > wall for servicing and moving it back for playing. 
  > 
  > Any ideas, any recommendations would be welcome. 
  > 
  > JH. 
  > 


  Regards,
  Rob Belcher
  www.myspace.com/duplx 


   

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RE: [yamahacs80] Keyboard stand for CS-80

2007-09-18 by Synth80s

When I had my CS-80, I used my CP-70 as the stand.  I'd seen video of
Prince dancing on his CP-70 in concert, and though he probably only
weighs half of a CS-80 (maybe a buck twenty), he jumped around enough to
convince me that it would be sturdy.

Anyhow, the CS and CP made a nice looking couple for a time. :)

-Synth80s

Re: [yamahacs80] Keyboard stand for CS-80

2007-09-19 by David Rogoff

Synth80s wrote:
> When I had my CS-80, I used my CP-70 as the stand.  I'd seen video of
> Prince dancing on his CP-70 in concert, and though he probably only
> weighs half of a CS-80 (maybe a buck twenty), he jumped around enough to
> convince me that it would be sturdy.
>   
Yes - it was a nice setup until I took the CS80 away :^)    This is what
Jobson did with U.K., too.

Until I finally tracked down the original legs, I used a heavy duty X
stand, rated for 300lbs.  Unfortunately, something messed up on it. 
About an hour before someone dropped off a CS80 at my house (it's still
there - I'm not sure when he's coming back from vacation!), I set it up
and just for fun put all my weight on it.  It collapsed, giving me some
nice bruises.  I'm still glad I did it - I don't want to imagine if we
had dropped the CS80 on it!

 David

Re: Keyboard stand for CS-80

2007-09-19 by David Rogoff

I forgot to mention a great feature of the original legs. Since they
bolt onto the CS80, and the rear side of the bottom is curved, it
allows one person to move and setup a CS80 on a stand!  You just roll
the CS80 to where you want it and attach the legs while it's on its
side.  Then you just (carefully) lift from the back edge of the CS80
and roll it up on to the legs.

It's the only way I could handle the CS80 by myself!

 David

Re: Keyboard stand for CS-80

2007-09-19 by erikfromhere

They go from front to rear, there are some spots under the synth 
without ventilation-gaps. These steel ventilation-parts look a bit 
fragile to me...
I must admit, increasing the width of the pedestal above 80cm will 
look a bit nicer (it will be more in line with the sides of the CS80, 
but 80cm is just a standard dimension for these kind of 
pedestals/containers. My job is in the office-furniture you see)
In my experience, use casters with a diameter of 60mm or more, else 
the combination is too heavy to comfortably move around.

--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "JH." <jhaible@...> wrote:
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> And the bars go front-rear (40cm each), or left-right (80cm each) ?
> 
> JH.
>

Keyboard stand for two CS-50s

2007-09-19 by Richard Atkinson

On a similar theme, does anyone have any suggestions for a keyboard stand 
to take two CS-50s?

I have recently bought two of these mini-monsters, and have all sorts of 
ideas for using them together. I could arrange them on their original 
stands at right angles to each other, but it would be much better to have 
one CS-50 above the other.

Grateful for any suggestions!

Richard

Re: Keyboard stand for CS-80

2007-12-14 by dark_november2000

Replying to an old message, as now I'm actually building a wooden 
stand / pedestal with casters, I have one specific question to Erik, 
or anybody else who can answer this.

> I placed some wooden bars 
> under the synth not to obstruct ventilation.

Is it ok to have these bars running *across* the vents?
They would only close a small part of them.
Question is, are they fitted flat enough into the bottom of the synth 
that I can run a bar under them, supporting the whole weight of the 
CS-80?

The benefit of this would be to place the bars exactly where the 
original stand would be located, with a span of 91.5cm between them.

Otherwise, if I have to avoid the vents completely, I must place the 
bars closer to the center, allowing 75cm width maximum.

What I plan to do is building a pedestal where the left and ride side 
panels are elongated 10cm above the top panel. I's build them from 
19mm multiplex (and could possibly double the 10cm above the top 
plate to 38mm).

I just don't know whether to go for 75cm witdh (avoiding the leftmost 
and rightmost vents), or wheter to build the pedestal with 90 ... 
95cm width and going right across th events (obstructing a strip of 
3.6cm of the 10cm wide vents).

What would you recommend?

JH. 

(want to go wood shopping tomorrow; CS-80 should arrive next week.)





--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "erikfromhere" <moogsynthex@...> 
wrote:
>
> I mentioned it before in this group, I use pedestals (as used in 
> office-furniture) as stands for both my CS80's. Dimensions are: 
60cm 
> height, 80cm length, 40cm depth. They have 4 casters (not too 
small) 
> so you can easily move the CS80 around. Besides, you can use the 
> drawers to store your manuals, parts etc. There is enough room left 
> for your legs and feet since the pedestal is at the flat part of 
the 
> CS80. When sitting in front of the CS80, the drawers open at the 
> left or rigt side to give you an idea. I placed some wooden bars 
> under the synth not to obstruct ventilation.
> Good luck with restoring (do you have to ?)your CS80 when it gets 
> in !  
> 
> --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "dark_november2000" <jhaible@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > I've been loosely watching this group for some time as a CS-50 
and 
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> CS-
> > 60 owner. Seems I've just upgraded to a full member (;->), though 
> my 
> > object of desire is still located at the other end of the world.
> > 
> > So ... in anticipation of the beast that will soon be taking over 
> my 
> > little studio ... I'm looking for a keyboard stand for a CS-80.
> > Most of what I find in stores isn't fit for 200 pounds.
> > 
> > Can you recommend anything?
> > Doesn't even have to be dedicated for keyboards ...
> > I even think about making my own, with castors for moving it from 
> the 
> > wall for servicing and moving it back for playing.
> > 
> > Any ideas, any recommendations would be welcome.
> > 
> > JH.
> >
>

Re: Keyboard stand for CS-80

2007-12-16 by erikfromhere

The original stand crosses some ventilation-sections partly too. You 
can see it on the pictures in the user manual. So I guess it's fine to 
have some wood there instead. The steel sections are a bit under the 
surface of the Tolex, only the screwhead can stick out a little bit. 
Nothing to worry about however. Using the exact same position as the 
original stand is fine.

Re: [yamahacs80] Re: Keyboard stand for CS-80

2008-01-24 by JH.

I've finally taken a photo of what I've built.
Taking up your *great* idea of using a pedestal, and combining it with an 
integrated version of the wooden bars that allow ventilation.
http://launch.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/yamahacs80/photos/view/b5ba?b=1&m=f&o=0

JH.
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "erikfromhere" <moogsynthex@...>
To: <yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 2:29 PM
Subject: [yamahacs80] Re: Keyboard stand for CS-80


I mentioned it before in this group, I use pedestals (as used in
office-furniture) as stands for both my CS80's. Dimensions are: 60cm
height, 80cm length, 40cm depth. They have 4 casters (not too small)
so you can easily move the CS80 around. Besides, you can use the
drawers to store your manuals, parts etc. There is enough room left
for your legs and feet since the pedestal is at the flat part of the
CS80. When sitting in front of the CS80, the drawers open at the
left or rigt side to give you an idea. I placed some wooden bars
under the synth not to obstruct ventilation.
Good luck with restoring (do you have to ?)your CS80 when it gets
in !

Re: Keyboard stand for CS-80

2008-01-25 by Rick

nice work.. wheels would be handy.. hurt my brother moving my CS last
week.. wimp




--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "JH." <jhaible@...> wrote:
>
> I've finally taken a photo of what I've built.
> Taking up your *great* idea of using a pedestal, and combining it
with an 
> integrated version of the wooden bars that allow ventilation.
>
http://launch.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/yamahacs80/photos/view/b5ba?b=1&m=f&o=0
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> 
> JH.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "erikfromhere" <moogsynthex@...>
> To: <yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 2:29 PM
> Subject: [yamahacs80] Re: Keyboard stand for CS-80
> 
> 
> I mentioned it before in this group, I use pedestals (as used in
> office-furniture) as stands for both my CS80's. Dimensions are: 60cm
> height, 80cm length, 40cm depth. They have 4 casters (not too small)
> so you can easily move the CS80 around. Besides, you can use the
> drawers to store your manuals, parts etc. There is enough room left
> for your legs and feet since the pedestal is at the flat part of the
> CS80. When sitting in front of the CS80, the drawers open at the
> left or rigt side to give you an idea. I placed some wooden bars
> under the synth not to obstruct ventilation.
> Good luck with restoring (do you have to ?)your CS80 when it gets
> in !
>