Yamaha CS80

What I can't get over about this instrument is how AWFUL the presets 
are. I have read on Mark Veil's "Vintage Synths" that there was this 
technician who would provide you the option of changing these presets 
to some that made more justice to the potential of this wonderful 
machine.
Anybody know if such a mod is still available?

Well if anyone came near my Cs80 and started trying to change any of the 
Brass presets, id have no choice but to club them to death... :) 

> What I can't get over about this instrument is how AWFUL the presets 
> are. I have read on Mark Veil's "Vintage Synths" that there was this 
> technician who would provide you the option of changing these presets 
> to some that made more justice to the potential of this wonderful 
> machine.
> Anybody know if such a mod is still available? 
>

Awful or not, characterful they are. After all, these presets have become classics by being used all over the place by Vangelis. And Blade Runner wouldn´t have sounded as stunning, had he not used Brass 1 and 2...

Stephen.

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: cuari7 
  To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 5:41 PM
  Subject: [yamahacs80] Factory presets


  What I can't get over about this instrument is how AWFUL the presets 
  are. I have read on Mark Veil's "Vintage Synths" that there was this 
  technician who would provide you the option of changing these presets 
  to some that made more justice to the potential of this wonderful 
  machine.
  Anybody know if such a mod is still available?



   

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>Well if anyone came near my Cs80 and started trying to change any of the
>Brass presets, id have no choice but to club them to death... :)

Yeah - I don't think the presets are that bad, either. :)
I *used* to think so, until I noticed it was a problem of transposing on my 
CS-50: The presets obviously have been created for the NORMAL setting, and I 
mostly play 1 OCT DOWN.
Changed a lot of resistors on the preset boards before I noticed that.

Modification isn't that difficult in *theory* - each parameter value is just 
one resistor value.
In *practice*, the board layout is very un-intuitive for finding the right 
resistor, and some presets don't have all parameres set anyway, which makes 
it a major pain in th e a** to set a pulse width setting when the original 
preset has only used the saw waveform ...

Presets are made for treatment with an FX chain - a guitar doesn't sound too 
exciting without amp and FX either.

JH.

--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, blchrr@... wrote:
>
> Well if anyone came near my Cs80 and started trying to change any of 
the 
> Brass presets, id have no choice but to club them to death... :) 


OK, OK, yes, the brass ones are actually quite good, and so is the 
organ, IMO. But the strings.... thin and cheesy!!

I'm desperate to use a string pad on my album- any pointers as to which 
preset to base it on/how to warm them up? Also Reason to believe on 
www.myspace.com/hudsonfall kicks off with cs80.

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--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "Adrian Crane" <ade_crane@...> wrote:
>
> I'm desperate to use a string pad on my album- any pointers as to 
which 
> preset to base it on/how to warm them up? 

I have my own string patch on my CS. Basically I take both the sawtooth 
and pulse waves from each VCO, but use the LFO to slowly mod the pulse 
width. I then pass them through the LPF, which I close almost 
completely, and I do not modulate the filter with the EG (or the LFO).
I then set a slow attack, high D and S and slow release on the ADSR. 
Finally, I turn on the chorus (yes, I DO like the built-in chorus, 
guys!!). Use the brightness slider to taste.

Try it.....

--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "Adrian Crane" <ade_crane@...> wrote:
>
> I'm desperate to use a string pad on my album- any pointers as to 
which 
> preset to base it on/how to warm them up? 

I have my own string patch on my CS. Basically I take both the sawtooth 
and pulse waves from each VCO, but use the LFO to slowly mod the pulse 
width. I then pass them through the LPF, which I close almost 
completely, and I do not modulate the filter with the EG (or the LFO).
I then set a slow attack, high D and S and slow release on the ADSR. 
Finally, I turn on the chorus (yes, I DO like the built-in chorus, 
guys!!). Use the brightness slider to taste.

Try it.....