Quoting each single word, Laurie... M ----- Original Message ----- From: "laurie" <laurie@...> To: <yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 10:59 PM Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] Re: Your opinion on CS60 > Musicians were given presets as were the synths........ > We were programmed to believe through trade mags (payed for by > manufacturers) that we wanted an easy way out of patching our > sounds.....Quickly... > We needed the ability to change sounds back and forth throughout our > songs to stay current.... > We needed an interface......MIDI > Patch Chords became dials switches and faders.... > Dials switches and faders became presets... > Presets couldn't move switches faders and dials .....so.... > Switches faders and dials reduced to become menu, knob and > parameter......and included Edit Store and recall to birth "presets" > Menu knob and parameter went to scroll menus and soft switches....and > more presets..... > "Two handed Polyphonic Aftertouch players" became "One handers with a > D-beam/Joystick" as the alternative......Ten fingers become thousands > with all the layering and sequencing..... > This is what "WE Wanted".....That is why I am so much richer in my > musicality.................poof.......huh..... > Sorry ....Where was I..... > What I meant to say was the Companies gave us some things but at our > musical expense.....and they have benifited from this hugely....... > I am no longer in their market target as a consumer, as I know what I > want.... > They sell so much more to people who don't know what to look for that > all good history gets lost in the cover-up......Check out the Yamaha > site ...They have a glossary of terms.... try it next time you go on > line.....try to find the mythical Polyphonic Aftertouch.......Little do > they know they carry the Arturia CS80v which supports it....... > > Presets couldn't move switches and faders and dials...Jim Combs wrote: > > > --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "Mert Topel" <mert@...> wrote: > > > > > > Have you got any idea why the great CS60 was not popular ever? > > > > It seems to me that the CS-50, 60, and 80 all suffered from somewhat > > being the last of their kind. They all fell in that timeframe of > > post-minimoog, relatively non-programmable, cheaper analog synths and > > right on the cusp of polyphonic, digital, programmable, networkable > > sampler/synths (both cheap and expensive). > > > > I think the Moogs & ARPs of the world were failing, the Rolands and > > Korgs and Sequential Circuits were rising (with MIDI), Synclaviers and > > > > Fairlights were blowing everyone's minds. Yamaha was too outside to > > compete in that marketplace. > > > > I never even saw a CS-series synth until 1983, a CS-80 in a famous > > disco producer's studio in NYC. They weren't in the music stores I > > visited in the mid-late-'70s. So maybe bad distribution too. > > > > My CS-50 was a music store demo that was never sold, taken by the > > music store owner's daughter from Colorado to Kansas City, stored and > > eventually bought by a local collector for the price of a gas bill, > > stored, and bought by me when he needed some cash. It looked like it > > had just come out of the music store. > > > > It blows my mind that this beautiful and beautiful sounding synth had > > to travel that path into my hands, but I question why someone else had > > > > not valued it's sound and appeal up until I got it? > > > > Would I have preferred the CS-50 to my Juno-6 back in '82? Doubt it. > > Would I trade the CS-50 before trading my Juno-6 today? No way. It's > > priceless and so individual and so special. > > > > I just recorded a piece that used a CS-80 patch on a Roland JD-800 and > > > > I overlayed a comparible CS-50 patch on top of it. The CS has a growl > > and edge to the sound whereas the JD patch was smooth and compressed. > > The CS just wants to dominate the soundspace. Who needs chords when a > > couple of notes on a CS fills things up? > > > > -Jim > > www.touchxtone.com > > www.myspace.com/jimcombs > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > > Music sampler Unit Sampler > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > + Visit your group "yamahacs80" on the web. > > > > + To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > yamahacs80-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > + Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > Service. > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
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Re: [yamahacs80] Re: Your opinion on CS60
2006-04-29 by Max Fazio
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