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Re: [yamahacs80] Pitch Drop When Using Sustain 1

2011-05-14 by lucidsound

Good grief, did I write that? If I did I'm glad someone preserved it, my memory is not what it was. 

I'm still interested to know if anyone else has this problem with a CS-60 or CS-80.

Thanks,

Lucid. 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: jkjelec@... 
  To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 9:13 PM
  Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] Pitch Drop When Using Sustain 1


    


  OK, this is what I found: 

  I was thinking that it had to be this, that I cut and saved from AH (I think) a few years ago: 

  "Seems the SH card collects debris over the years from being near the front   
  of the machine, underneath the keyboard, and this reduces its effectiveness   
  as an insulator. The impedance of the input to the SH amps (CA3140T) is in   
  the order of 1.5 T Ohms (1500 Meg Ohms!) and the SH caps are quite small for   
  this application (0.22uF) so it doesn't take much to cause that voltage to   
  leak away. Some good old household dust plus several gigs in smokey   
  theatres (this was the eighties, don't forget) would probably be enough. 

  I found if I lifted the end of the caps which feed to the CA3140T's from the   
  PCB, Pin 3 of the CA3140T's and also the 4066 Gate outputs and wire-linked   
  them together away from the surface of the PCB, the problem goes away. There   
  is still a very small voltage drop but even with full Sustain (Yamaha-speak   
  for Release) the change in pitch isn't noticeable. 

  I'm guessing this must be a common fault, as the CS-60 card I have exhibits   
  the same problem. 

  Lucid." 

  jkjelec 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "lucidsound" <lucidsound@...> 
  To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 2:33:54 PM 
  Subject: [yamahacs80] Pitch Drop When Using Sustain 1 

  Has anyone else come across the quirk whereby if using long release times in Sustain Mode 1, the oscillator pitch drops slowly when the notes are released?  Switching to Sustain II brings the notes back to the correct pitch. 

  I figure this is something to do with the Keyboard SH card, and voltages leaking away from the capacitors. 

  Any suggestions or previous experiences of this problem welcome! 

  Thanks, 

  Lucid. 

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