Yamaha CS80

I  think it is the Concept of the Sustain pedal......

The Sustain pedal is not a Hold pedal

Sustain or the pedal sustain switches on a circuit which extends the
release in the 4 envelopes...

The duration is lengthened on the Sustain time slider beside
portamento time....this is a macro control for filters and
Amplifier...the Sustain pedal does not hold like on other
keyboards...it stretches the release time...Hold is done with your
fingers....


-----Original message-----
From: "Max Fazio" faxiomas@...
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:50:50 -0700
To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [yamahacs80] Help understand TECHNICALLY Sustain II

But I'm not getting how it works in a technical way: I mean, the NANDs
before the sample and hold module should output all the gates at the
same time because of the "0" sent to the NANDs by the Sustain II
switch, and the SH circuit should hold the gate forever...how
ithappens that notes release ?
M
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Laurie Curry 
To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 2:12 AM
Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] Help understand Sustain II


that is exactly what I said...
-----Original message-----
From: "Max Fazio" faxiomas@...
Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:21:03 -0700
To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] Help understand Sustain II

Yes, Stephen, it does so but it's more deep: I call this effect the
"clockwise swirl in Australia", that is reverses a "steal the oldest"
into "steal the latest" note, if I understand it correctly, taking in
all the dying notes as a whole "last note"....or am I wrong, am I?
M
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Wavecomputer360 
To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 200812:24 AM
Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] Help understand Sustain II

If I remember correctly, Sustain 2 is the mode where you can use the
pitch ribbon to bend the note even when you´re keeping it sustained
using the footpedal. Sustain 1 doesn´t do this.As soon as you lift
your hands from the keyboard, the ribbon won´t be controlling the
notes anymore.

Hm, I ought to be playing my CS80 more often, I guess...

Stephen

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: Max Fazio 
To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 12:09 PM
Subject:[yamahacs80] Help understand Sustain II

Hi all
I ask your kind help in explaining the difference between "Sustain" I
and II.
A first question: what is the method of stealing the notes with CS80
in Sustain I, I mean, how the notes are stealed when all voices are
assigned when Sustain I is applied? Is it "steal the oldest note"?
And what about the Sustain II? Does the method change to "steal the
last played note"?
Question is: if the KAS assigns to newest note all the time, why the
envelopes do retrigger in "Sustain I" ?
Please, Kent or Chris or anybody skilled, the patents ordocuments on
JH's site don't help me, can you give me a simple explaination?
Thanks for your care.
Max

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