Yamaha CS80

thanks for putting the thought into this, david. im in the same boat as scott; i dont understand the nuts and bolts, but i could be interested in this as a functional device for tuning. as far as panel mounting, i wouldnt be willing to mod the front panel of mine, though, so i would have to find another place to put it.


--- On Mon, 9/15/08, David Rogoff <david@therogoffs.com> wrote:
From: David Rogoff <david@...>
Subject: [yamahacs80] Auto-tuner / tuner assist idea
To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, September 15, 2008, 7:44 PM










    
            Hi all.



Well, we had out CS80 BBQ yesterday. It was a good time with lots of 

noise :^).  More on that later.



Toward the end of the afternoon, we were talking (actually, Scott M. 

was requesting/begging) about some kind of auto-tuner for the beast. I 

thought about a few ways to do it, but then I realized I have a few 

others things to do in the next couple of years, so I dropped the 

plan. However, I have thought of a pretty simple board that could be 

mounted in the CS80 to really speed up the manual tuning procedure and  

not require any external tuner or test equipment.



I've put a scan of my first sketch here: http://launch. ph.groups. yahoo.com/ group/yamahacs80 /photos/browse/ 68f7?

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Quick explanation: I grab the 8 trigger/gate signals and convert them 

to binary with a 4532 (this whole thing uses the same 4000-series CMOS 

chips that are already used all over the CS80). One place this goes is 

a 4511, which drives a 7-segment LED display, showing you a number 

from 0 through 7 for which pair of board is triggered. If you hit more 

than one key at a time, all bets are off!



The binary code also controls the 4051 8-to-1 muxes in the upper 

right, which are wired with the pulse outputs from each voice card. 

Therefore, you automatically select the correct oscillators. (I just 

realized, since only one key is allowed to be hit at a time, the muxes 

can just be OR gates).  These go through a couple of 4013 flip-flops 

which turn them into nice, clean square waves at octave down.



Next, at the bottom of the page, we've got a crystal tuning reference 

(could include a jack for an external reference??) . This is divided 

down to all the required octave for tuning. Another pair of 4051s pick 

the correct octave automatically based on the Feet switches.



Finally, in the circuit above this, the oscillator outputs are X-ORed 

(digital ring-mod - easy to hear/see beat frequency) with the 

reference tone. These drive red/green LEDs that show the beat 

frequency. Also, a pair of switches allow sending the oscillator, 

reference tone, or X-OR tone from either channel to an audio output. 

This lets you hear the tones, which can help with tuning, especially 

if the oscillators are way off.



Comments? Criticisms? Suggestions?  Would this be something people 

would want to install in their keyboards?  It would probably mount 

inside the front panel, near the Feet switches.



More later,



David




      

    
    
	
	 
	
	








	


	
	


      

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