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RE: [yamahacs80] Auto-tuner / tuner assist idea

2008-09-16 by Scott Metzger

You can only hit one key at a time?  How do you tune the 8th voice?I am a little confused to this process. Can you explain the process without the tech? It looks interesting.   Would I basically have a trim pot control on the front that allows me to tune by ear?  What ever it takes, I am totally up for it.  To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.comFrom: david@...: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 23:44:16 +0000Subject: [yamahacs80] Auto-tuner / tuner assist idea

















    
            Hi all.

Well, we had out CS80 BBQ yesterday. It was a good time with lots of 
noise :^).  More on that later.

Toward the end of the afternoon, we were talking (actually, Scott M. 
was requesting/begging) about some kind of auto-tuner for the beast. I 
thought about a few ways to do it, but then I realized I have a few 
others things to do in the next couple of years, so I dropped the 
plan. However, I have thought of a pretty simple board that could be 
mounted in the CS80 to really speed up the manual tuning procedure and  
not require any external tuner or test equipment.

I've put a scan of my first sketch here: http://launch.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/yamahacs80/photos/browse/68f7?
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Quick explanation: I grab the 8 trigger/gate signals and convert them 
to binary with a 4532 (this whole thing uses the same 4000-series CMOS 
chips that are already used all over the CS80). One place this goes is 
a 4511, which drives a 7-segment LED display, showing you a number 
from 0 through 7 for which pair of board is triggered. If you hit more 
than one key at a time, all bets are off!

The binary code also controls the 4051 8-to-1 muxes in the upper 
right, which are wired with the pulse outputs from each voice card. 
Therefore, you automatically select the correct oscillators. (I just 
realized, since only one key is allowed to be hit at a time, the muxes 
can just be OR gates).  These go through a couple of 4013 flip-flops 
which turn them into nice, clean square waves at octave down.

Next, at the bottom of the page, we've got a crystal tuning reference 
(could include a jack for an external reference??). This is divided 
down to all the required octave for tuning. Another pair of 4051s pick 
the correct octave automatically based on the Feet switches.

Finally, in the circuit above this, the oscillator outputs are X-ORed 
(digital ring-mod - easy to hear/see beat frequency) with the 
reference tone. These drive red/green LEDs that show the beat 
frequency. Also, a pair of switches allow sending the oscillator, 
reference tone, or X-OR tone from either channel to an audio output. 
This lets you hear the tones, which can help with tuning, especially 
if the oscillators are way off.

Comments? Criticisms? Suggestions?  Would this be something people 
would want to install in their keyboards?  It would probably mount 
inside the front panel, near the Feet switches.

More later,

David


      

    
    
	
	
	
	


	


	
	
	
	
	



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