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Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Recapping

2013-04-08 by 65 Lotus

Internally tanatlums look like a sponge where their charging surface area is exposed in 3-dimensions, whereas electrolytics are a couple of wound, flat pieces of foil.
Due to their inherent structure, tanatalums charge very quickly as the 3-D surface gets easily flooded with electrons, whereas for electrolytics, the electrons have to spread around the plate to be saturated. That takes time.
So, tantalums are very good for high frequency cap duties, like on the crystal (clock) circuits. For power rails, electrolytics are fine of course, but for anything that's a high frequency circuit, I'd stick with a tantalum if was spec'ed that way to begin with.
Tantalums are very unfogiving of overvoltage which is what usually kills them. Once they're saturated, the slightest voltage over their rating will do them in, where they melt into a short. They work great when used properly in a circuit where the probability that they'll ever see a spike is nil. Replacing a tant with one with a larger rating will slow down the saturation time, so again, I'd just replace it with the original rating component. I like the Vishay brand which is what we use in the aviation industry where I work.
I'm no expert (I'm a mechanical engineer however), but I spent a few hours researching the ins-and-outs of tants one day right before I did a full recap on my OB-Xa. If it was tantalum, it stayed that way.
Scott in Ohio
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Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Recapping

Thanks for your explanation and the link. So can I take it as a rule of thumb and change all tantalum (in PSU, logic circuits or audio circuits) for low ESR electrolytic? Or is there some case where to change just old tantalum for new one? Could for example using of tantalum rated for higher voltage serve as a sort of better protection against possible fail?

I had this fire problem with two ceramic disk caps in the PSU of one old Russian instrument which was not in use for few years. Fortunately I could see the fire, it started immediately after switching on, so I just switched off. It was enough to change those caps and instrument is OK, but I will do complete recapping.

Daniel Forro


On 8 Apr, 2013, at 11:32 PM, Alexis V. Rogers wrote:



Tantalums were used due to size and lower ESR. You can get low ESR electrolytics these days. The problem with tantalums is that they close (short) when they fail. When used in a power supply situation, I've seen tantalums burst into flame and end up looking like burnt marshmallows.
I've never added capacitors to the IC power lines unless I was replacing with a different IC whose datasheet called for it.
And, I get my can caps through http://www.tubesandmore.com/.

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