Hi I've been watching this thread with great interest. One thing no one has mentioned is to what is the negative end of the tant cap returned? If it is the 0V rail then it would appear as though at times the positive end of the cap sees a negative voltage, this can't be so can it? If however it is the -15V rail then at times the positive end of the cap will see +30V - not conducive to long life for a 25V component. Regards Brian _____ From: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Malte Rogacki Sent: Saturday, 10 May 2008 14:43 To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com Subject: [vintagesynthrepair] The ARP Omni and the infamous tantalum caps After a somewhat closer inspection and some measurements I believe to have gotten a better grasp on the infamous tantalum cap problem for the gating circuits. Observation 1: The caps are not operated generally under a +15/-15V voltage difference. There are some errors in the service manual for the original Omni (not Omni-2). As correctly described on the string control board schematic the voltages are +8 Volts for shortest release and -15V for longest release. This also explains why comparatively (!) few caps fail - I guess in many cases people will use very short release times; and if this actually would equal 15V the caps would be permanently under a 30 Volts difference. The +15V are indeed the sustain reference that goes to the string control board; what comes back is between +8V and -15V; this is the voltage applied to the sustain buss. So nominally there's only a 23V max voltage difference on the sustain buss. Observation 2: But that is not all that happens on the sustain buss, though. There's also the suppression trigger. And - big surprise - this is a (very short) +15 spike that is sent for each newly pressed key. Which I guess is what in the end kills the caps. Also interesting: The tantalum caps in the bass gating circuit are rated 35V... There's something that I haven't completely figured out so far: The release time depends on the number of keys held down. A single key will have a shorter release time than a five-note chord. Or maybe this is another problem... -- Malte Rogacki gacki@gacki. <mailto:gacki%40gacki.sax.de> sax.de ---------------------------------------------------------- "Don't forget to TURN ON THE SYNTHESIZER. Often this is the reason why you get no sound out of it." (ARP 2600 Owner's Manual) ---------------------------------------------------------- E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (5.5.0.178) Database version: 5.09800 http://www.pctools.com/Spyware-Doctor/
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RE: [vintagesynthrepair] The ARP Omni and the infamous tantalum caps
2008-05-10 by Brian Davies
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