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Re: DX7 plays no sound....

2006-11-06 by gil_we

Thanks for the info -

I'll put it on the Files section.


--- In vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com, "francois basquin" 
<babouche369@...> wrote:
>
> To All,
> 
> I finally found the book where the DX7 test procedure is given. 
Here is :
> 
> 1 -  press simultaneously FUNCTION + 16 + 32 to enter into test mode
> 2 - "Test mode entry. Are you sure ?" : YES
> Then, you will have 11 self-tests. To go to next test, press "YES".
> 
> 3 - "Test 1 Level Adj VR3" : produces a 440 Hz sine.
> 4 - "Test 2 Display test" : lights on all the LED digits and the 
LCD pixels.
> 5 - "Test 3 Sw 1" : you'll be required to press all the switches.
> . Sw 1 -> Sw 32 = Numeric switches 1 to 32
> . Sw 33 = Store
> . Sw 34 = Internal Memory Protect
> . Sw 35 = Cartridge Memory Protect
> . Sw 36 = Operator Select
> . Sw 37 = Edit/Compare
> . Sw 38 = Internal Memory Select
> . Sw 39 = Cartridge Memory Select
> . Sw 40 = Function
> . Push sustain = depress the pedal in the sustain switch
> . Push portamento = depress the pedal in the portamento switch
> 6 - "Test 4 Kbd" : you'll be asked to depress each key. Follow the 
display.
> 7 - "Test 5 A/D" : Analog/digital converters.
> . Data Entry
> . Pitch Bend
> . Modulation
> . Expression pedal
> . Breath control
> . After touch
> *** WARNING ***
> The next test will erase your RAM. If you don't want to, switch off 
your 
> DX7.
> *** YOU'VE BEEN WARNED ***
> 8 - "Test 6 Ctr R" : Cartridge read
> - You need a special test cartridge to complete this test
> - it will copy the content of the test cartridge into the RAM, and 
compare 
> the copy with the ROM.
> 9 - "Test 7 Ctr W" : Cartridge write
> - you need a RAM cartridge to complete the test.
> - The cartridge will be completely erased.
> 10 - "Test 8 Ctr RW" : Cartridge read/write. Speaks for itself.
> 11 - "Test 9 RAM" : RAM testing
> Erases everything : internal RAM + RAM cartridge.
> 12 - "Test 10 ROM" : Check sum of the ROM
> 13 - "Test 11" : Plays all the notes
> 
> Note: I've read you can go from test 5 to test 11 by 
pressing "YES/+1" 
> without inserting any cartridge. You should not screwup your RAM, 
but I've 
> never tried though. I always switched off after test 5.
> 
> (procedure found in "Guitare et Clavier" #65, Jul 86)
> 
> HTH,
> 
> François
> 
> 
> 
> >From: "Miguel Mendoza" <miguel@...>
> >Reply-To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
> >To: <vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com>
> >Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: DX7 plays no sound....
> >Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 14:24:06 +0100
> >
> >I don't know how to fix it, but I have the same issue since I 
replaced the 
> >battery.
> >
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: gil_we
> >   To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
> >   Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 2:13 PM
> >   Subject: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: DX7 plays no sound....
> >
> >
> >   Retraced and so far working ok.
> >
> >   One thing that I haven't managed to set up is the Internal 
Memory
> >   Protect to set to OFF. Each time I power the machine off, it is 
set
> >   back to ON. Any idea how do I set it permanently to OFF ?
> >
> >   Thanks all !
> >
> >   --- In vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com, "gil_we" <gil_we@>
> >   wrote:
> >   >
> >   > Well, looking closely at the circuit I found some corroded 
traces...
> >   > I guess there is a great chance that this is the cause of the
> >   > problem - will retrace and check again. I always thought this 
can
> >   > only happen on a NiCD battery based synths...
> >   >
> >   >
> >   > --- In vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com, "gil_we" <gil_we@>
> >   > wrote:
> >   > >
> >   > > It would be so great if you could send it... Lemme know :)
> >   > >
> >   > >
> >   > >
> >   > > --- In vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com, "jim" <leman@> 
wrote:
> >   > > >
> >   > > > Hi Miguel
> >   > > >
> >   > > > Many years ago, I had a DX7 and put an expansion card to 
get 4
> >   > > > internal banks.
> >   > > > to install the card, I'd to remove the genuine IC ROM 
from the
> >   DX.
> >   > > > I sold the keyboard but I think I still have these 
genuine ROMs.
> >   > > > If you need them, tell me, I'll look for them. Just be 
patient
> >   and
> >   > > > make a pray to help me to find them easily !
> >   > > >
> >   > > > jim
> >   > > >
> >   > > > --- In vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com, grantbt@ wrote:
> >   > > > >
> >   > > > > I don't think those ROMs would be that hard to come 
by...
> >   > > > >
> >   > > > > GB
> >   > > > >
> >   > > > >
> >   > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >   > > > > >From: gil_we <gil_we@>
> >   > > > > >Sent: Oct 31, 2006 12:26 PM
> >   > > > > >To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
> >   > > > > >Subject: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: DX7 plays no 
sound....
> >   > > > > >
> >   > > > > >No I don;t think so. You need the two original ROMS 
that
> >   have
> >   > > been
> >   > > > > >removed once installing it. Sounds like bad contacts
> >   > somewhere.
> >   > > I'll
> >   > > > > >check it out.
> >   > > > > >
> >   > > > > >
> >   > > > > >
> >   > > > > >--- In vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com, "GB" 
<grantbt@>
> >   > wrote:
> >   > > > > >>
> >   > > > > >> Remove the E! ?
> >   > > > > >>
> >   > > > > >> GB
> >   > > > > >>
> >   > > > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> >   > > > > >> From: "gil_we" <gil_we@>
> >   > > > > >> To: <vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com>
> >   > > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 3:48 AM
> >   > > > > >> Subject: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: DX7 plays no 
sound....
> >   > > > > >>
> >   > > > > >>
> >   > > > > >> Hey buddies,
> >   > > > > >>
> >   > > > > >> After following the procedure for master reset 
proived
> >   with
> >   > > the E1
> >   > > > > >> Expansion Card manual (which is on my DX7), I can 
finally
> >   > hear
> >   > > > > >> sounds, but it behaves very strangely. Most of the 
times
> >   when
> >   > > > > >> powering it On, sounds will play, but some notes 
sustain
> >   > > forever,
> >   > > > > >> volume changes between notes, some notes are cut 
after a
> >   few
> >   > > > > >> miliseconds, some do not play at all, some play 
well....
> >   all
> >   > > > > >> randimally. On the other hand, I could once have it
> >   playing
> >   > > just
> >   > > > > >> fine !
> >   > > > > >>
> >   > > > > >> What do you think could be the problem ?.....
> >   > > > > >>
> >   > > > > >>
> >   > > > > >>
> >   > > > > >>
> >   > > > > >> --- In vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com, "Miguel 
Mendoza"
> >   > > > > >> <miguel@> wrote:
> >   > > > > >> >
> >   > > > > >> > Thanks Fran�ois, that would be a good info.
> >   > > > > >> >
> >   > > > > >> > Cheers!
> >   > > > > >> >
> >   > > > > >> > Miguel.
> >   > > > > >> >
> >   > > > > >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >   > > > > >> > From: francois basquin
> >   > > > > >> > To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
> >   > > > > >> > Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 2:06 AM
> >   > > > > >> > Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: DX7 plays no
> >   > > sound....
> >   > > > > >> >
> >   > > > > >> >
> >   > > > > >> > Miguel,
> >   > > > > >> >
> >   > > > > >> > there is a procedure to reset the entire DX (and to
> >   > empty
> >   > > all
> >   > > > > >the
> >   > > > > >> mem). I
> >   > > > > >> > don't rember it well, but I do have it in a book 
and
> >   can
> >   > > find it
> >   > > > > >> if
> >   > > > > >> > necessary.
> >   > > > > >> >
> >   > > > > >> > Fran�ois
> >   > > > > >> >
> >   > > > > >> > >From: "Miguel Mendoza" <miguel@>
> >   > > > > >> > >Reply-To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
> >   > > > > >> > >To: <vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com>
> >   > > > > >> > >Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: DX7 plays no
> >   > > sound....
> >   > > > > >> > >Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 18:28:01 +0100
> >   > > > > >> > >
> >   > > > > >> > >Hi Narfman,
> >   > > > > >> > >thanks a lot for your answer and help. I needed 
the
> >   > system
> >   > > > > >> settings because
> >   > > > > >> > >I had an issue with the keyboard, only one octave 
was
> >   > > playing,
> >   > > > > >I
> >   > > > > >> though it
> >   > > > > >> > >might be a hidden option in the system setup. But 
it
> >   > was
> >   > > due to
> >   > > > > >> a hardware
> >   > > > > >> > >problem already solved.
> >   > > > > >> > >
> >   > > > > >> > >Thanks again for your help.
> >   > > > > >> > >
> >   > > > > >> > >Kind regards.
> >   > > > > >> > >
> >   > > > > >> > >Miguel.
> >   > > > > >> > >
> >   > > > > >> > >
> >   > > > > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >   > > > > >> > > From: narfman96
> >   > > > > >> > > To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
> >   > > > > >> > > Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 3:49 PM
> >   > > > > >> > > Subject: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: DX7 plays no
> >   > sound....
> >   > > > > >> > >
> >   > > > > >> > >
> >   > > > > >> > > Miguel,
> >   > > > > >> > >
> >   > > > > >> > > E-mail me at Narfman96 at yahoo dot com if you 
want
> >   > the
> >   > > sysex
> >   > > > > >> for
> >   > > > > >> > > the DX7II setup. I couldn't find your address as
> >   it's
> >   > > private.
> >   > > > > >> > > I'm not sure you wan't just any system setup 
because
> >   > it
> >   > > > > >defines
> >   > > > > >> > > evrything from the CC controller id's to the 
patch
> >   > change
> >   > > > > >> transmit
> >   > > > > >> > > buffer. All the midi channels for each voice 
group
> >   (A
> >   > or
> >   > > B)and
> >   > > > > >> the
> >   > > > > >> > > transmit channel (I use ch. 1). Local on/off and
> >   sysex
> >   > > on/off
> >   > > > > >> are
> >   > > > > >> > > located in the setup file too. Be careful. It 
may be
> >   > > easier to
> >   > > > > >> set
> >   > > > > >> > > your synth for the way you use it with your gear 
and
> >   > > save that
> >   > > > > >> setup.
> >   > > > > >> > > Either way if you contact me I'll send you 
whatever
> >   > you
> >   > > > > >need...
> >   > > > > >> > >
> >   > > > > >> > > Narfman (I'm in all the Yamaha DX groups also.)
> >   > > > > >> > >
> >   > > > > >> > > --- In 
vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com, "Miguel
> >   > > Mendoza"
> >   > > > > >> > > <miguel@> wrote:
> >   > > > > >> > > >
> >   > > > > >> > > > Hello, I think you should also to restore the
> >   system
> >   > > > > >settings
> >   > > > > >> that
> >   > > > > >> > > were in the memory like master tunning, volume 
and
> >   > voice
> >   > > > > >> tunning.
> >   > > > > >> > > > By the way, does anybody have a system backup
> >   sysex
> >   > > file of
> >   > > > > >> the DX7
> >   > > > > >> > > II or can do it? Please, if you could send it to 
my
> >   > > email. I
> >   > > > > >> would be
> >   > > > > >> > > very grateful.
> >   > > > > >> > > >
> >   > > > > >> > > > Regards.
> >   > > > > >> > > >
> >   > > > > >> > > >
> >   > > > > >> > > >
> >   > > > > >> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >   > > > > >> > > > From: gil_we
> >   > > > > >> > > > To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
> >   > > > > >> > > > Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 9:32 AM
> >   > > > > >> > > > Subject: [vintagesynthrepair] DX7 plays no
> >   sound....
> >   > > > > >> > > >
> >   > > > > >> > > >
> >   > > > > >> > > > I just got a DX7 (first version), and it plays 
no
> >   > > sound.
> >   > > > > >> > > >
> >   > > > > >> > > > I first checked the battey - and indeed it was
> >   low. I
> >   > > > > >> replaced it
> >   > > > > >> > > with
> >   > > > > >> > > > a new 3v lithium, preset banks has been reset 
as
> >   > > expexted.
> >   > > > > >> > > >
> >   > > > > >> > > > I tried playing some patches from the ROM
> >   cartridge
> >   > > (which
> >   > > > > >> didn't
> >   > > > > >> > > > suppose to be affected by the battery change), 
and
> >   > > > > >programming
> >   > > > > >> > > some new
> >   > > > > >> > > > patches, but no sound it heard on neither. 
Anyhow,
> >   I
> >   > > can
> >   > > > > >hear
> >   > > > > >> the
> >   > > > > >> > > hiss
> >   > > > > >> > > > coming from the amplification circuit...
> >   > > > > >> > > >
> >   > > > > >> > > > does anyone have any idea where should I look 
at ?
> >   > > > > >> > > > Is that a common problem on the DX7 ?
> >   > > > > >> > > >
> >   > > > > >> > > > Thanks, can't wait to make it work ;)
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