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Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: DX7 plays no sound....

2006-11-05 by francois basquin

To All,

I finally found the book where the DX7 test procedure is given. Here is :

1 -  press simultaneously FUNCTION + 16 + 32 to enter into test mode
2 - "Test mode entry. Are you sure ?" : YES
Then, you will have 11 self-tests. To go to next test, press "YES".

3 - "Test 1 Level Adj VR3" : produces a 440 Hz sine.
4 - "Test 2 Display test" : lights on all the LED digits and the LCD pixels.
5 - "Test 3 Sw 1" : you'll be required to press all the switches.
. Sw 1 -> Sw 32 = Numeric switches 1 to 32
. Sw 33 = Store
. Sw 34 = Internal Memory Protect
. Sw 35 = Cartridge Memory Protect
. Sw 36 = Operator Select
. Sw 37 = Edit/Compare
. Sw 38 = Internal Memory Select
. Sw 39 = Cartridge Memory Select
. Sw 40 = Function
. Push sustain = depress the pedal in the sustain switch
. Push portamento = depress the pedal in the portamento switch
6 - "Test 4 Kbd" : you'll be asked to depress each key. Follow the display.
7 - "Test 5 A/D" : Analog/digital converters.
. Data Entry
. Pitch Bend
. Modulation
. Expression pedal
. Breath control
. After touch
*** WARNING ***
The next test will erase your RAM. If you don't want to, switch off your 
DX7.
*** YOU'VE BEEN WARNED ***
8 - "Test 6 Ctr R" : Cartridge read
- You need a special test cartridge to complete this test
- it will copy the content of the test cartridge into the RAM, and compare 
the copy with the ROM.
9 - "Test 7 Ctr W" : Cartridge write
- you need a RAM cartridge to complete the test.
- The cartridge will be completely erased.
10 - "Test 8 Ctr RW" : Cartridge read/write. Speaks for itself.
11 - "Test 9 RAM" : RAM testing
Erases everything : internal RAM + RAM cartridge.
12 - "Test 10 ROM" : Check sum of the ROM
13 - "Test 11" : Plays all the notes

Note: I've read you can go from test 5 to test 11 by pressing "YES/+1" 
without inserting any cartridge. You should not screwup your RAM, but I've 
never tried though. I always switched off after test 5.

(procedure found in "Guitare et Clavier" #65, Jul 86)

HTH,

Fran\ufffdois



>From: "Miguel Mendoza" <miguel@...>
>Reply-To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>To: <vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: DX7 plays no sound....
>Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 14:24:06 +0100
>
>I don't know how to fix it, but I have the same issue since I replaced the 
>battery.
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: gil_we
>   To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 2:13 PM
>   Subject: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: DX7 plays no sound....
>
>
>   Retraced and so far working ok.
>
>   One thing that I haven't managed to set up is the Internal Memory
>   Protect to set to OFF. Each time I power the machine off, it is set
>   back to ON. Any idea how do I set it permanently to OFF ?
>
>   Thanks all !
>
>   --- In vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com, "gil_we" <gil_we@...>
>   wrote:
>   >
>   > Well, looking closely at the circuit I found some corroded traces...
>   > I guess there is a great chance that this is the cause of the
>   > problem - will retrace and check again. I always thought this can
>   > only happen on a NiCD battery based synths...
>   >
>   >
>   > --- In vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com, "gil_we" <gil_we@>
>   > wrote:
>   > >
>   > > It would be so great if you could send it... Lemme know :)
>   > >
>   > >
>   > >
>   > > --- In vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com, "jim" <leman@> wrote:
>   > > >
>   > > > Hi Miguel
>   > > >
>   > > > Many years ago, I had a DX7 and put an expansion card to get 4
>   > > > internal banks.
>   > > > to install the card, I'd to remove the genuine IC ROM from the
>   DX.
>   > > > I sold the keyboard but I think I still have these genuine ROMs.
>   > > > If you need them, tell me, I'll look for them. Just be patient
>   and
>   > > > make a pray to help me to find them easily !
>   > > >
>   > > > jim
>   > > >
>   > > > --- In vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com, grantbt@ wrote:
>   > > > >
>   > > > > I don't think those ROMs would be that hard to come by...
>   > > > >
>   > > > > GB
>   > > > >
>   > > > >
>   > > > > -----Original Message-----
>   > > > > >From: gil_we <gil_we@>
>   > > > > >Sent: Oct 31, 2006 12:26 PM
>   > > > > >To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>   > > > > >Subject: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: DX7 plays no sound....
>   > > > > >
>   > > > > >No I don;t think so. You need the two original ROMS that
>   have
>   > > been
>   > > > > >removed once installing it. Sounds like bad contacts
>   > somewhere.
>   > > I'll
>   > > > > >check it out.
>   > > > > >
>   > > > > >
>   > > > > >
>   > > > > >--- In vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com, "GB" <grantbt@>
>   > wrote:
>   > > > > >>
>   > > > > >> Remove the E! ?
>   > > > > >>
>   > > > > >> GB
>   > > > > >>
>   > > > > >> ----- Original Message -----
>   > > > > >> From: "gil_we" <gil_we@>
>   > > > > >> To: <vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com>
>   > > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 3:48 AM
>   > > > > >> Subject: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: DX7 plays no sound....
>   > > > > >>
>   > > > > >>
>   > > > > >> Hey buddies,
>   > > > > >>
>   > > > > >> After following the procedure for master reset proived
>   with
>   > > the E1
>   > > > > >> Expansion Card manual (which is on my DX7), I can finally
>   > hear
>   > > > > >> sounds, but it behaves very strangely. Most of the times
>   when
>   > > > > >> powering it On, sounds will play, but some notes sustain
>   > > forever,
>   > > > > >> volume changes between notes, some notes are cut after a
>   few
>   > > > > >> miliseconds, some do not play at all, some play well....
>   all
>   > > > > >> randimally. On the other hand, I could once have it
>   playing
>   > > just
>   > > > > >> fine !
>   > > > > >>
>   > > > > >> What do you think could be the problem ?.....
>   > > > > >>
>   > > > > >>
>   > > > > >>
>   > > > > >>
>   > > > > >> --- In vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com, "Miguel Mendoza"
>   > > > > >> <miguel@> wrote:
>   > > > > >> >
>   > > > > >> > Thanks Fran\ufffdois, that would be a good info.
>   > > > > >> >
>   > > > > >> > Cheers!
>   > > > > >> >
>   > > > > >> > Miguel.
>   > > > > >> >
>   > > > > >> > ----- Original Message -----
>   > > > > >> > From: francois basquin
>   > > > > >> > To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>   > > > > >> > Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 2:06 AM
>   > > > > >> > Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: DX7 plays no
>   > > sound....
>   > > > > >> >
>   > > > > >> >
>   > > > > >> > Miguel,
>   > > > > >> >
>   > > > > >> > there is a procedure to reset the entire DX (and to
>   > empty
>   > > all
>   > > > > >the
>   > > > > >> mem). I
>   > > > > >> > don't rember it well, but I do have it in a book and
>   can
>   > > find it
>   > > > > >> if
>   > > > > >> > necessary.
>   > > > > >> >
>   > > > > >> > Fran\ufffdois
>   > > > > >> >
>   > > > > >> > >From: "Miguel Mendoza" <miguel@>
>   > > > > >> > >Reply-To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>   > > > > >> > >To: <vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com>
>   > > > > >> > >Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: DX7 plays no
>   > > sound....
>   > > > > >> > >Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 18:28:01 +0100
>   > > > > >> > >
>   > > > > >> > >Hi Narfman,
>   > > > > >> > >thanks a lot for your answer and help. I needed the
>   > system
>   > > > > >> settings because
>   > > > > >> > >I had an issue with the keyboard, only one octave was
>   > > playing,
>   > > > > >I
>   > > > > >> though it
>   > > > > >> > >might be a hidden option in the system setup. But it
>   > was
>   > > due to
>   > > > > >> a hardware
>   > > > > >> > >problem already solved.
>   > > > > >> > >
>   > > > > >> > >Thanks again for your help.
>   > > > > >> > >
>   > > > > >> > >Kind regards.
>   > > > > >> > >
>   > > > > >> > >Miguel.
>   > > > > >> > >
>   > > > > >> > >
>   > > > > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
>   > > > > >> > > From: narfman96
>   > > > > >> > > To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>   > > > > >> > > Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 3:49 PM
>   > > > > >> > > Subject: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: DX7 plays no
>   > sound....
>   > > > > >> > >
>   > > > > >> > >
>   > > > > >> > > Miguel,
>   > > > > >> > >
>   > > > > >> > > E-mail me at Narfman96 at yahoo dot com if you want
>   > the
>   > > sysex
>   > > > > >> for
>   > > > > >> > > the DX7II setup. I couldn't find your address as
>   it's
>   > > private.
>   > > > > >> > > I'm not sure you wan't just any system setup because
>   > it
>   > > > > >defines
>   > > > > >> > > evrything from the CC controller id's to the patch
>   > change
>   > > > > >> transmit
>   > > > > >> > > buffer. All the midi channels for each voice group
>   (A
>   > or
>   > > B)and
>   > > > > >> the
>   > > > > >> > > transmit channel (I use ch. 1). Local on/off and
>   sysex
>   > > on/off
>   > > > > >> are
>   > > > > >> > > located in the setup file too. Be careful. It may be
>   > > easier to
>   > > > > >> set
>   > > > > >> > > your synth for the way you use it with your gear and
>   > > save that
>   > > > > >> setup.
>   > > > > >> > > Either way if you contact me I'll send you whatever
>   > you
>   > > > > >need...
>   > > > > >> > >
>   > > > > >> > > Narfman (I'm in all the Yamaha DX groups also.)
>   > > > > >> > >
>   > > > > >> > > --- In vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com, "Miguel
>   > > Mendoza"
>   > > > > >> > > <miguel@> wrote:
>   > > > > >> > > >
>   > > > > >> > > > Hello, I think you should also to restore the
>   system
>   > > > > >settings
>   > > > > >> that
>   > > > > >> > > were in the memory like master tunning, volume and
>   > voice
>   > > > > >> tunning.
>   > > > > >> > > > By the way, does anybody have a system backup
>   sysex
>   > > file of
>   > > > > >> the DX7
>   > > > > >> > > II or can do it? Please, if you could send it to my
>   > > email. I
>   > > > > >> would be
>   > > > > >> > > very grateful.
>   > > > > >> > > >
>   > > > > >> > > > Regards.
>   > > > > >> > > >
>   > > > > >> > > >
>   > > > > >> > > >
>   > > > > >> > > > ----- Original Message -----
>   > > > > >> > > > From: gil_we
>   > > > > >> > > > To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>   > > > > >> > > > Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 9:32 AM
>   > > > > >> > > > Subject: [vintagesynthrepair] DX7 plays no
>   sound....
>   > > > > >> > > >
>   > > > > >> > > >
>   > > > > >> > > > I just got a DX7 (first version), and it plays no
>   > > sound.
>   > > > > >> > > >
>   > > > > >> > > > I first checked the battey - and indeed it was
>   low. I
>   > > > > >> replaced it
>   > > > > >> > > with
>   > > > > >> > > > a new 3v lithium, preset banks has been reset as
>   > > expexted.
>   > > > > >> > > >
>   > > > > >> > > > I tried playing some patches from the ROM
>   cartridge
>   > > (which
>   > > > > >> didn't
>   > > > > >> > > > suppose to be affected by the battery change), and
>   > > > > >programming
>   > > > > >> > > some new
>   > > > > >> > > > patches, but no sound it heard on neither. Anyhow,
>   I
>   > > can
>   > > > > >hear
>   > > > > >> the
>   > > > > >> > > hiss
>   > > > > >> > > > coming from the amplification circuit...
>   > > > > >> > > >
>   > > > > >> > > > does anyone have any idea where should I look at ?
>   > > > > >> > > > Is that a common problem on the DX7 ?
>   > > > > >> > > >
>   > > > > >> > > > Thanks, can't wait to make it work ;)
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