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Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Polysix memory failure. A specific problem. S-RAM ?

2006-06-30 by Roy J. Tellason

On Friday 30 June 2006 09:43 am, timothy kosiorek wrote:
> HI:I've had battery replacements where you soldered in the battery and
> everything looked good but the solder connection was not making connection
> due to plating on the battery leads,I had to file the plating off the
> battery leads to get a good connection,if you check the voltage right at
> the battery you will get a good reading so check the battery voltage at a
> point away from where you soldered it in to make sure it's making good
> connection,I've been a tech for 30 years so I know how to solder but this
> threw me off because the connections look good but they're not.

The connections to the battery should be an issue to look at when you turn the 
power off and stuff isn't saved.  I don't have the impression that this is 
what's happening here,  I thought that the patch would appear (from the 
operator's perspective) to save properly but wouldn't,  actually,  so the 
problem is somewhere else,  likely caused by corrosion from the old battery 
that hasn't been completely cleaned up yet.

> From: "Roy J. Tellason" <rtellason@...>
>
> >Reply-To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
> >To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Polysix memory failure. A specific
> >problem. S-RAM ?
> >Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 08:35:57 -0400
> >
> >On Friday 30 June 2006 07:53 am, sputnik979 wrote:
> > > Hi folks!
> > >
> > > My Polysix after battery leakage had the typical symtomps you might
> > > expect.
> > >
> > > After having cleaned & resoldered the guts everything's fine apart
> > > from the memory;
> > > I create a patch, I press WRITE, I choose the location. Seems OK. But
> > > just click another patch, then come back to the one I just saved - and
> > > it's not there. A new 3.6V battery has been installed, but it is not
> > > the matter of battery, beacause we are talking about doing this when
> > > the synth is still operatnig, being plugged, so it has all the power
> > > needed all the time.
> > >
> > > I'm inclined to think the TC5514 S-RAM chip is the culprit, because
> > > all the chips keep voltage of 5V whereas this one has just 4V.
> > >
> > > What do you think ? What replacement part for TC5514 should I look
> > > for?
> > > I've heard about Intersil HM6514 and Nec uPD444c (D444C-6514) but are
> > > these really the only ones? I came across some chips with 'similar'
> > > characteristics and I really would like to avoid importing the above
> > > mentioned ICs.
> > >
> > > I'm not a tech, but a tech's opinion would be greatly appreciated and
> > > helpful.
> >
> >I believe I *have* a 5514 (only it's LC5514, I think made by Sanyo) around
> >here someplace,  but that may not be your problem.  I read a page on the
> >'net
> >somewhere that discussed cleaning up a unit that had suffered from battery
> >corrosion problems,  and it was quite extensive,  with traces being eaten,
> >plated-through holes being a problem,  etc.  You may want to do some more
> >digging there.  Perhaps the write signal is not getting to the chip?
> >Something like that in any case.  The worst part about battery leakage
> >corrosion is that it gets into places you can't see,  under parts and
> > such. Go at it with a meter and verify your connections,  and make sure
> > that there
> >really _are_ connections where there are supposed to be.
> >
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