That sounds cool. Thanks Adam. I definitely need to give this a try when I get my JX-3P put back together :-) -Richie, -----Original Message----- From: Adam (synthDIY) Sent: Monday, January 19, 2026 10:17 PM To: rburnett@richieburnett.co.uk Cc: synth-diy mailing list Subject: Re: [sdiy] JX-3P question It's an undocumented feature. In the manual, it would appear that LFO modulation is restricted to sine, square or random (Edit group B, option 10, buttons A B or C). However, if you hit the fourth button "D" you get a noise source modulation that can affect both the oscillators and filter, depending of course how much mod you have dialled in for these areas. (Side note: the LFO Delay function also works on this noise source, for those times where you want your delicate synth-brass sound to be slowly taken over by short-wave radio hash... erm..) But, no, I don't know the actual source of that noise modulation.... I do know I'm gonna need another coffee before I open the service manual though... A > On 20 Jan 2026, at 07:31, rburnett@richieburnett.co.uk wrote: > > That's interesting Adam. I didn't know the JX-3P could do that! > > I don't see a modulation path from the analogue noise source to the DCOs > though, so I guess the noise modulation you mention must be done digitally > by the micro? > > -Richie, > > > On 2026-01-18 21:52, Adam (synthDIY) wrote: >> I wonder if it has something to do with the noise modulation option in >> the JX3P, rather than just the use of noise as part of the patch mix? >> Noise modulation is available from the front panel but not from the >> PG-200 >> A >>> On 19 Jan 2026, at 05:47, Richie Burnett <rburnett@richieburnett.co.uk> >>> wrote: >>> Thanks for the confirmation everyone. >>> It just seemed like a strange thing to include what must have been an >>> expensive BA662 OTA device at the time, instead of using yet another >>> trim-pot to calibrate the noise level. >>> Obviously the AGC approach would try to correct for long-term drift of >>> the noise level and possible variation with temperature, but that can't >>> account for that much amplitude variation, and the user can adjust the >>> level of noise in the mix anyway! I would have thought the AGC circuit >>> would need to measure the RMS of the noise in order to accurately >>> control its perceived loudness anyway? >>> It's interesting that it's used in other synths of the era like the Juno >>> 6 & 60 and a variant in the Jupiter 6, but the Juno 106 design went back >>> to using a trim-pot again (VR32). (See attached.) >>> JX-8P and the Alpha Juno / MKS50 got the luxury of digital noise >>> sources! >>> -Richie, >>> -----Original Message----- From: Florian Anwander via Synth-diy >>> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2026 6:15 PM >>> To: synth-diy mailing list >>> Subject: Re: [sdiy] JX-3P question >>> Hello Richie >>> Am 18.01.26 um 18:13 schrieb Richie Burnett: >>> but on closer inspection it looks like the OTA is in some sort of local >>> feedback loop, intended to keep the noise amplitude constant, maybe? >>> I never investigated deeper on this circuit, but that is my impression >>> too. Roland used that in the JX3P and in the Juno6/60. A similar circuit >>> was used in the Jupiter6: >>> I don't remember the JP8. >>> Florian >>> ________________________________________________________ >>> This is the Synth-diy mailing list >>> Submit email to: Synth-diy@synth-diy.org >>> View archive at: https://synth-diy.org/pipermail/synth-diy/ >>> Check your settings at: https://synth-diy.org/mailman/listinfo/synth-diy >>> Selling or trading? Use marketplace@synth-diy.org >>> -- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. >>> www.avg.com<Juno106-Noise.PNG>________________________________________________________ >>> This is the Synth-diy mailing list >>> Submit email to: Synth-diy@synth-diy.org >>> View archive at: https://synth-diy.org/pipermail/synth-diy/ >>> Check your settings at: https://synth-diy.org/mailman/listinfo/synth-diy >>> Selling or trading? Use marketplace@synth-diy.org > ________________________________________________________ > This is the Synth-diy mailing list > Submit email to: Synth-diy@synth-diy.org > View archive at: https://synth-diy.org/pipermail/synth-diy/ > Check your settings at: https://synth-diy.org/mailman/listinfo/synth-diy > Selling or trading? Use marketplace@synth-diy.org
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Re: [sdiy] JX-3P question
2026-01-20 by Richie Burnett
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