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CEM3379 vs CEM3387

CEM3379 vs CEM3387

2008-12-06 by sequenrik

Hi all, I�m new to this group. I wonder what filter you like best; the
CEM3379 in the P2000 or the CEM3387 in the P3000?

Regards
//Henrik

SV: [prophet2000] CEM3379 vs CEM3387

2008-12-08 by KW

3379 is most common i guess ? ESQ-1, Matrix-6 ?? i heard those synths and like the filters alot, never heard of any synths or samplers using 3387 though! anyone who might know what equipment stuffed with 3387 filters ? apart from SCi P3000


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Hi all, I´m new to this group. I wonder what filter you like best; the
CEM3379 in the P2000 or the CEM3387 in the P3000?

Regards
//Henrik


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Re: SV: [prophet2000] CEM3379 vs CEM3387

2008-12-08 by Henrik

Yes, Emulator III, Waldorf Wave and Microwave have as well.
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From: KW
Subject: SV: [prophet2000] CEM3379 vs CEM3387
To: prophet2000@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 11:44 AM

3379 is most common i guess ? ESQ-1, Matrix-6 ?? i heard those synths and like the filters alot, never heard of any synths or samplers using 3387 though! anyone who might know what equipment stuffed with 3387 filters ? apart from SCi P3000


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Datum: lördag 6 december 2008 08.30

Hi all, I´m new to this group. I wonder what filter you like best; the
CEM3379 in the P2000 or the CEM3387 in the P3000?

Regards
//Henrik


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Re: SV: [prophet2000] CEM3379 vs CEM3387

2008-12-08 by ron schneider

On 08.12.2008, at 11:44, KW wrote:

> 3379 is most common i guess ? ESQ-1, Matrix-6 ??

the Matrix is powered by CEM3396...


> never heard of any synths or samplers using 3387

Waldorf Wave & Microwave has it..

here're some charts about CEM & SSM equipment:

http://sequencer.de/synth/index.php/Chips_in_Synthesizers

http://www.synthtech.com/cem/cemsynth.html



Personally, I couldn't tell about what filter I "like best" - they're  
all pretty decent integrated circuits but don't beat a Moog cascade ;)


r.

Re:SV: [prophet2000] CEM3379 vs CEM3387

2008-12-08 by CS

Emulator III ,Waldorf Wave (year the big one), my selfmade synth! Have  
a CEM 3387
and i can tell you its sounds super! I also have a ESQ and a Prophet  
2000 sound is more dirty
and a bit more "cheap" ...not so creamy fat like the EMU III for  
example...but the 3379 is
good too! Espacialy in the Prophet 2000! the ESQ sounds not so good to  
me...
Regards mtz

Re:SV: [prophet2000] CEM3379 vs CEM3387

2008-12-09 by sequenrik

Those filters are a VCF-VCA type but do they require separate VCA:s in
additions tho them, or just one final VCA, or none? I checked the
schemos but could hardly read them.

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> Emulator III ,Waldorf Wave (year the big one), my selfmade synth! Have  
> a CEM 3387
> and i can tell you its sounds super! I also have a ESQ and a Prophet  
> 2000 sound is more dirty
> and a bit more "cheap" ...not so creamy fat like the EMU III for  
> example...but the 3379 is
> good too! Espacialy in the Prophet 2000! the ESQ sounds not so good to  
> me...
> Regards mtz
>

Re:SV: [prophet2000] CEM3379 vs CEM3387

2008-12-09 by duncan

the ones in the p2000/2002 are combined VCF & VCA but need external
envelope generators. I am toying with the idea of rescuing the CEMs
from my 2000 (which has a dead kybd controller IC but otherwise
perfect...) & using them in another project.

duncan.

Re:SV: [prophet2000] CEM3379 vs CEM3387

2008-12-09 by Henrik

Yes I know there´s separate EG:s. But I think I red somewhere that synths/samplers with those filters have one additional VCA for master control, but I´m not shure.
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--- On Tue, 12/9/08, duncan wrote:
From: duncan
Subject: Re:SV: [prophet2000] CEM3379 vs CEM3387
To: prophet2000@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 9:38 PM

the ones in the p2000/2002 are combined VCF & VCA but need external
envelope generators. I am toying with the idea of rescuing the CEMs
from my 2000 (which has a dead kybd controller IC but otherwise
perfect...) & using them in another project.

duncan.


Re:SV: [prophet2000] CEM3379 vs CEM3387

2008-12-10 by duncan

>>synths/samplers with those filters have one additional VCA for
master control<<

you're right, & it may well have been another curtis chip in some
designs, where cost wasn't too much of an issue... other designs used
a cheaper vca for a programmable master volume, or scaled the vca
envelope volts going to the voice chips, or else didn't bother & just
had a hardware volume control.
I think there are some synths that did all three aswell... :-)

duncan.

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