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Power supply failure

Power supply failure

2018-04-15 by patrickjpbelcher@gmail.com

Hi P6 group,


It unfortunately looks like my power supply is scuppered, and Im fairly sure the issue is with the regulator board, not the transformer though I don't know for sure. It's the earlier revision, so there no test points for the rails on the pcb. 


Basically, I was having a jolly old time making some music as opposed to messing about with a multimeter. I went to make some coffee, came back - no lights on my P6. Turned it off and back on again later to do some testing, alive! Worked for a while then died again. Symptoms were that ALL my rails were dropping. eg. I measured -1.35V or something on my -5V rail, +/-15 were around 4.5V I think. Recently I had found it was sounding a bit distorted especially when using resonance, perhaps unrelated.


Initially I thought something was drawing too much current somewhere, or there was a short because my rails were coming back up again when dropping boards out of circuit (this didn't follow a pattern though). I've subsequently found that what was failing has probably failed. And it looks suspiciously like it might well be the M5330L. 


However, before I take a punt on trying to source one of these chips, I'd like to call on the expertise of the group.... has anyone got any experience with PSU failures in P6's (they seem rare)? 


Could someone confirm what the secondary AC voltage should be from the transformer, and what voltage I should see across the large reservoir caps on the regulator board? Currenty I see just shy of +/- 30V DC there?


Does anyone have an old PSU they swapped out for a Kiwi?


Any suggestions, pointers gratefully received!


Thank you,


Patrick


 

Re: Power supply failure

2018-04-15 by backshall1@bellsouth.net

I just replaced the M5230 in a Polysix that was blowing fuses under full load. With all the other boards powered up except the KLM-366, the power supplies (+5, -5, +15, -15) were all okay. As soon as I plugged in the power cable to the KLM-366, all voltages started to drop and one of the fuses would light up and blow within a few seconds. Pulling one pin out of the 366 power cable (pin 2, +5V) stopped it from blowing the fuse. Changing to a different KLM-366 did not make any difference. I tried another KLM-376 (regulators) and everything worked, so I started to test all the parts on the bad KLM-376 as best I could. Diodes, capacitors and transistors seemed to test okay so I changed the M5230, and now it is happy. Since the capacitors tested okay and I didn't see anything else in the schematic that could short directly from +5 to ground, it seemed like the most likely culprit.
Don Backshall

Re: Power supply failure

2018-04-16 by jw_dewdney@yahoo.com

I had a mono/poly that died on me - turned out the molex connector had worked itself loose from bad solder joints from the PS board ... while i didnt' have your symptoms I could easily see something like this causing that - sounds like you have an intermittent problem somewhere - could be bad fuse contacts, bad ground, lots of things - check your contacts and wiring maybe - then check or reflow your solder joints with the PS out of the enclosure

Re: Power supply failure

2018-04-16 by jw_dewdney@yahoo.com

i guess i would first make sure your PS is disconnected from anything downstream and see if you can replicate the problem - that will tell you if the problem is actually in the PS or not for one ... you can also check the impedance (resistance) of power feed lines downstream going to your PS