Discussion about the Korg PolySix synthesizer

> Hey all!
>
> Just wondering if anyone who did the KiwiSix install has their old IC6
> sitting around and would be willing to part ways with it? It gets
> removed and replaced by the KiwiTechnics version for the install.
>
> I would like to attempt to (re-)build a circuit around one of these
> IC6's to see if i can't utilize the arpeggiator inside. Might take
> some time but would be super fun to have as a composition tool.
>
> Murray at Kiwi suggested i reach out to previous installers since he
> doesn't have any.
>
> Thanks!
> jim

>
> To be honest to you too, I personally find the polysix arpeggiator to
> be very unique in the way that it chooses notes when multiple ranges
> of octaves are held down.
>

On Fri, 12/18/15, James Matthew Smith jmsmatthewsmith@gmail.com [PolySix] <PolySix@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [PolySix] anyone have an IC6 (key assigner 8049 217) left over from KIWI install?
To: "PolySix@yahoogroups.com" <PolySix@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Friday, December 18, 2015, 11:59 AM


 









Thanks Florian,I'm
actually expecting the DIY arp to be a difficult situation
but one worth pursuing, albeit with some patience and no
guarantee it'll end up working.My setup has
changed and i'm gearing up to abandon computers and midi
altogether. To play the arp, i'll be wanting to create a
miniature keyboard using dozens of small momentary buttons,
and then (and i know this might be tough) have the output of
the arp able to go to monosynth cv/gate. It would of course
be nice to be able to have the output be switchable between
V/oct and H/V, but V/oct would be preferred if only one.
However is that's accomplished, external conversion
would be possible at that point.
When i used the arp on the polysix,
i almost always just set the synth into "monosynth
mode" which was just by using the chord function for
just one note. Then it would only ever trigger the same
voice over and over. So this would be the goal for the diy
arp circuit, to create a purely trigger/cv/gate situation
but only ever for one voice at output. I don't even have
a poly synth anymore.
And as for the tuubutec arp
situation, and others, i'm pretty sure that the IC6
program information has never been extracted by anyone. So
all of the arps out there are approximations, probably
including the korg plugin. They may be close, and probably
all awesome in their own regards. And maybe i'm naive to
think that the original is superior since i haven't
actually used the Kiwi/Tubbu/etc versions and they
definitely have wonderfully committed designers behind them.
But it's worth trying to resurrect an original since
i'm already in love with the darn thing. call me a
romantic.


On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at
11:30 AM, Florian Anwander fanwander@mnet-online.de
[PolySix] <PolySix@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:















 









Hello J,



you are of course right about how wonderful the arpeggiator
in the P6

is, but still there is the question: what soundgenerator do
you want to

control with it? You have to rebuild the complete Voiceboard
including

the VCOs!



The CPU and the D/A converter output a multiplexed
"nearly V/Oct"

voltage without any trimming. If you control a normal
CV-Synth with this

voltage, it will sound like "cats chant" (german
saying). The trimming

happens within a common exponentiator for all voices and
then is

demulitiplexed as six V/Hz voltages. The VCOs of the P6 are
V/Hz (this

is, why the P6 is that amazing stable in relative tune).



If you want the P6-Arpeggiator and want it to send
MIDI-NOtes, then get

the tubbutec CPU for the P6 (https://tubbutec.de/modypoly/).
You may use

it nearly standalone and it will send the Arpeggio via
MIDI-Out and(!)

will read the notes from MIDI-In.



Florian



Am 18.12.2015 um 17:17 schrieb James Matthew Smith

jmsmatthewsmith@gmail.com
[PolySix]:

>

> To be honest to you too, I personally find the polysix
arpeggiator to

> be very unique in the way that it chooses notes when
multiple ranges

> of octaves are held down.

>



































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On Fri, 12/18/15, James Matthew Smith jmsmatthewsmith@gmail.com [PolySix] <PolySix@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [PolySix] anyone have an IC6 (key assigner 8049 217) left over from KIWI install?
To: "PolySix@yahoogroups.com" <PolySix@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Friday, December 18, 2015, 12:10 PM



Well that's good news.
Please pardon my ignorance of your device this is for, in
fact I think my old polysix was midi modd'ed by you Bob
so i should know this already (i'd bought it from
someone who had it done by you).. But for what product of
yours are you referring to? You have a replacement IC6 or a
whole board? 
On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at
12:04 PM, Bob Grieb bobgrieb@yahoo.com
[PolySix] <PolySix@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:















 









You are incorrect in saying that noone has ever
extracted the Poly Six key assigner code.

As I mentioned in an earlier post, my PIC code is a direct
port of that code. I take the 8049 instruction

and map it to the equivalent PIC instruction. I did have
to add a little delay in a few places as the PIC is

much faster, but aside from that it's the same. I also
added MIDI note on and off, but that was a pretty

small change.



Bob Grieb



--------------------------------------------

On Fri, 12/18/15, James Matthew Smith jmsmatthewsmith@gmail.com
[PolySix] <PolySix@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:



Subject: Re: [PolySix] anyone have an IC6 (key assigner 8049
217) left over from KIWI install?

To: "PolySix@yahoogroups.com"
<PolySix@yahoogroups.com>

Date: Friday, December 18, 2015, 11:59 AM





 



















Thanks Florian,I'm

actually expecting the DIY arp to be a difficult
situation

but one worth pursuing, albeit with some patience and no

guarantee it'll end up working.My setup
has

changed and i'm gearing up to abandon computers and
midi

altogether. To play the arp, i'll be wanting to create
a

miniature keyboard using dozens of small momentary
buttons,

and then (and i know this might be tough) have the output
of

the arp able to go to monosynth cv/gate. It would of
course

be nice to be able to have the output be switchable
between

V/oct and H/V, but V/oct would be preferred if only one.

However is that's accomplished, external conversion

would be possible at that point.

When i used the arp on the polysix,

i almost always just set the synth into "monosynth

mode" which was just by using the chord function
for

just one note. Then it would only ever trigger the same

voice over and over. So this would be the goal for the
diy

arp circuit, to create a purely trigger/cv/gate
situation

but only ever for one voice at output. I don't even
have

a poly synth anymore.

And as for the tuubutec arp

situation, and others, i'm pretty sure that the IC6

program information has never been extracted by anyone.
So

all of the arps out there are approximations, probably

including the korg plugin. They may be close, and
probably

all awesome in their own regards. And maybe i'm naive
to

think that the original is superior since i haven't

actually used the Kiwi/Tubbu/etc versions and they

definitely have wonderfully committed designers behind
them.

But it's worth trying to resurrect an original since

i'm already in love with the darn thing. call me a

romantic.





On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at

11:30 AM, Florian Anwander fanwander@mnet-online.de

[PolySix] <PolySix@yahoogroups.com>

wrote:































 



















Hello J,







you are of course right about how wonderful the
arpeggiator

in the P6



is, but still there is the question: what soundgenerator
do

you want to



control with it? You have to rebuild the complete
Voiceboard

including



the VCOs!







The CPU and the D/A converter output a multiplexed

"nearly V/Oct"



voltage without any trimming. If you control a normal

CV-Synth with this



voltage, it will sound like "cats chant"
(german

saying). The trimming



happens within a common exponentiator for all voices and

then is



demulitiplexed as six V/Hz voltages. The VCOs of the P6
are

V/Hz (this



is, why the P6 is that amazing stable in relative tune).







If you want the P6-Arpeggiator and want it to send

MIDI-NOtes, then get



the tubbutec CPU for the P6 (https://tubbutec.de/modypoly/).

You may use



it nearly standalone and it will send the Arpeggio via

MIDI-Out and(!)



will read the notes from MIDI-In.







Florian







Am 18.12.2015 um 17:17 schrieb James Matthew Smith



jmsmatthewsmith@gmail.com

[PolySix]:



>



> To be honest to you too, I personally find the
polysix

arpeggiator to



> be very unique in the way that it chooses notes
when

multiple ranges



> of octaves are held down.



>







































































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