Discussion about the Korg PolySix synthesizer

Hi All,

Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble contact strips or alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?

Many thanks in advance,

Tony

Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed the contacts on my polysix with a paste i ordered online.


Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@googlemail.com> schreef:
Hi All,

Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble contact strips or alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?

Many thanks in advance,

Tony



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Yahoo! Groups Links





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Hi,

Thanks for your message.

I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but with a bit of coaxing the keys are now working.

Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a tiny bit of success and Old Crow's advice from his site.

I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected. Do you know if this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the underneath circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...

Thanks,

Tony

--- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, bastebraak <bastebraak@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed the contacts on my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
>
>
> Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@...> schreef:
> Hi All,
>
> Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble contact strips or alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
>
> Many thanks in advance,
>
> Tony
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Sorry. I have no info on the pin numbers. But i bet some one will. Good luck!



Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@googlemail.com> schreef:
Hi,

Thanks for your message.

I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but with a bit of coaxing the keys are now working.

Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a tiny bit of success and Old Crow's advice from his site.

I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected. Do you know if this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the underneath circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...

Thanks,

Tony

--- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, bastebraak <bastebraak@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed the contacts on my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
>
>
> Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@...> schreef:
> Hi All,
>
> Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble contact strips or alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
>
> Many thanks in advance,
>
> Tony
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>




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Just compare with the schematics?

BR,
Peter

----- Original Message -----
From: tonezone020
To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip



Hi,

Thanks for your message.

I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but with a bit of coaxing the keys are now working.

Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a tiny bit of success and Old Crow's advice from his site.

I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected. Do you know if this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the underneath circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...

Thanks,

Tony

--- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, bastebraak <bastebraak@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed the contacts on my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
>
>
> Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@...> schreef:
> Hi All,
>
> Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble contact strips or alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
>
> Many thanks in advance,
>
> Tony
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





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Hi,

Looking at the schematics it's hard to tell - it doesn't seem like there is one for the underside of the board ...

Regards,

Tony

--- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, Peter Mörck <peterm@...> wrote:
>
> Just compare with the schematics?
>
> BR,
> Peter
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: tonezone020
> To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
> Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for your message.
>
> I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but with a bit of coaxing the keys are now working.
>
> Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a tiny bit of success and Old Crow's advice from his site.
>
> I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected. Do you know if this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the underneath circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tony
>
> --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, bastebraak <bastebraak@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed the contacts on my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
> >
> >
> > Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@> schreef:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble contact strips or alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
> >
> > Many thanks in advance,
> >
> > Tony
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Pins 1, 4, 10, 13, 14 are all connected together to +5vdc.



Don Backshall



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From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
tonezone020
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 7:46 PM
To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip





Hi,

Looking at the schematics it's hard to tell - it doesn't seem like there is
one for the underside of the board ...

Regards,

Tony

--- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> , Peter
Mörck <peterm@...> wrote:

>
> Just compare with the schematics?
>
> BR,
> Peter
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: tonezone020
> To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
> Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for your message.
>
> I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but with a bit of

coaxing the keys are now working.

>
> Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a tiny bit of

success and Old Crow's advice from his site.

>
> I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected. Do you know if

this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the underneath
circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...

>
> Thanks,
>
> Tony
>
> --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> ,

bastebraak <bastebraak@> wrote:

> >
> >
> >
> > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed the contacts on

my polysix with a paste i ordered online.

> >
> >
> > Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@> schreef:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble contact strips or

alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?

> >
> > Many thanks in advance,
> >
> > Tony
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

You must be looking at the board layout drawing.
The schematics are different and have no "layers". They just show how it's connected without actual physical constraints.

Anyway, I just looked and pins 1,4,10,13,14 of IC31 are tied to +5V :)

By the way,
I assume there's an error in the schematics indicating pin 4 tied to pin12 of the 8048, as it's also tied to +5V.
Either that's pin 5 instead, or vice versa.

IC31 is just a quad AND gate acting as a buffer. Each of the AND gates has one of its inputs tied to +5V so whatever appeard on the other input will also appear on the output of that gate.

The traces under IC31 are usually attacked by the battery acid though and it is good if you do continuity testing around that area.

BR,
Peter

----- Original Message -----
From: tonezone020
To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:45 AM
Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip



Hi,

Looking at the schematics it's hard to tell - it doesn't seem like there is one for the underside of the board ...

Regards,

Tony

--- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, Peter Mörck <peterm@...> wrote:
>
> Just compare with the schematics?
>
> BR,
> Peter
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: tonezone020
> To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
> Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for your message.
>
> I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but with a bit of coaxing the keys are now working.
>
> Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a tiny bit of success and Old Crow's advice from his site.
>
> I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected. Do you know if this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the underneath circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tony
>
> --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, bastebraak <bastebraak@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed the contacts on my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
> >
> >
> > Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@> schreef:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble contact strips or alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
> >
> > Many thanks in advance,
> >
> > Tony
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





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Hi Don,

That's very helpful.

I tested from pin 1 on IC31 across to the pins mentioned on both chips and pin 4 in both are display differing resistances, whereas the others are fine. Do you recommend bridging for to something in the chain ?

I very much appreciate your help.

Best wishes,

Tony

--- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "backshall1" <backshall1@...> wrote:
>
> Pins 1, 4, 10, 13, 14 are all connected together to +5vdc.
>
>
>
> Don Backshall
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> tonezone020
> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 7:46 PM
> To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Looking at the schematics it's hard to tell - it doesn't seem like there is
> one for the underside of the board ...
>
> Regards,
>
> Tony
>
> --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> , Peter
> M�rck <peterm@> wrote:
> >
> > Just compare with the schematics?
> >
> > BR,
> > Peter
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: tonezone020
> > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
> > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Thanks for your message.
> >
> > I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but with a bit of
> coaxing the keys are now working.
> >
> > Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a tiny bit of
> success and Old Crow's advice from his site.
> >
> > I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected. Do you know if
> this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the underneath
> circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tony
> >
> > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> bastebraak <bastebraak@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed the contacts on
> my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
> > >
> > >
> > > Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@> schreef:
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble contact strips or
> alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
> > >
> > > Many thanks in advance,
> > >
> > > Tony
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Yes, there is an error in the schematics. Pin 5 is +5v, not pin 4. Pin 4
really does go to pin 12 on the 8048. I just checked a clone board and an
old original KLM-367. They are the same.

Don B.



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From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Peter Mörck
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:25 PM
To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip





You must be looking at the board layout drawing.
The schematics are different and have no "layers". They just show how it's
connected without actual physical constraints.

Anyway, I just looked and pins 1,4,10,13,14 of IC31 are tied to +5V :)

By the way,
I assume there's an error in the schematics indicating pin 4 tied to pin12
of the 8048, as it's also tied to +5V.
Either that's pin 5 instead, or vice versa.

IC31 is just a quad AND gate acting as a buffer. Each of the AND gates has
one of its inputs tied to +5V so whatever appeard on the other input will
also appear on the output of that gate.

The traces under IC31 are usually attacked by the battery acid though and it
is good if you do continuity testing around that area.

BR,
Peter

----- Original Message -----
From: tonezone020
To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:45 AM
Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip

Hi,

Looking at the schematics it's hard to tell - it doesn't seem like there is
one for the underside of the board ...

Regards,

Tony

--- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> , Peter
Mörck <peterm@...> wrote:
>
> Just compare with the schematics?
>
> BR,
> Peter
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: tonezone020
> To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
> Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for your message.
>
> I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but with a bit of
coaxing the keys are now working.
>
> Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a tiny bit of
success and Old Crow's advice from his site.
>
> I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected. Do you know if
this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the underneath
circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tony
>
> --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> ,
bastebraak <bastebraak@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed the contacts on
my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
> >
> >
> > Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@> schreef:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble contact strips or
alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
> >
> > Many thanks in advance,
> >
> > Tony
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Sorry about that, try pin 5 instead.

Don B.



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From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
tonezone020
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:30 PM
To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip





Hi Don,

That's very helpful.

I tested from pin 1 on IC31 across to the pins mentioned on both chips and
pin 4 in both are display differing resistances, whereas the others are
fine. Do you recommend bridging for to something in the chain ?

I very much appreciate your help.

Best wishes,

Tony

--- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"backshall1" <backshall1@...> wrote:

>
> Pins 1, 4, 10, 13, 14 are all connected together to +5vdc.
>
>
>
> Don Backshall
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>

[mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of

> tonezone020
> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 7:46 PM
> To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Looking at the schematics it's hard to tell - it doesn't seem like there

is

> one for the underside of the board ...
>
> Regards,
>
> Tony
>
> --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>

<mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> , Peter

> M�rck <peterm@> wrote:
> >
> > Just compare with the schematics?
> >
> > BR,
> > Peter
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: tonezone020
> > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>

<mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>

> > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
> > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Thanks for your message.
> >
> > I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but with a bit of
> coaxing the keys are now working.
> >
> > Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a tiny bit of
> success and Old Crow's advice from his site.
> >
> > I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected. Do you know if
> this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the underneath
> circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tony
> >
> > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>

<mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> ,

> bastebraak <bastebraak@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed the contacts

on

> my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
> > >
> > >
> > > Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@> schreef:
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble contact strips

or

> alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
> > >
> > > Many thanks in advance,
> > >
> > > Tony
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Hi Don and Peter,

Your messages have been very helpful consequently I've discovered anomalies elsewhere...

IC26 p5 doesn't connect to IC34 p5 - should I bridge this ?

IC26 to IC32 connections are all fine.

Also I think there's a mistake in the schematics. Rather than IC34 connecting to IC32 it seems to be IC26 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected to IC32 p2, 1, 17, 16

Regards,

Tony

--- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "backshall1" <backshall1@...> wrote:
>
> Yes, there is an error in the schematics. Pin 5 is +5v, not pin 4. Pin 4
> really does go to pin 12 on the 8048. I just checked a clone board and an
> old original KLM-367. They are the same.
>
> Don B.
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Peter Mörck
> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:25 PM
> To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
>
>
>
>
>
> You must be looking at the board layout drawing.
> The schematics are different and have no "layers". They just show how it's
> connected without actual physical constraints.
>
> Anyway, I just looked and pins 1,4,10,13,14 of IC31 are tied to +5V :)
>
> By the way,
> I assume there's an error in the schematics indicating pin 4 tied to pin12
> of the 8048, as it's also tied to +5V.
> Either that's pin 5 instead, or vice versa.
>
> IC31 is just a quad AND gate acting as a buffer. Each of the AND gates has
> one of its inputs tied to +5V so whatever appeard on the other input will
> also appear on the output of that gate.
>
> The traces under IC31 are usually attacked by the battery acid though and it
> is good if you do continuity testing around that area.
>
> BR,
> Peter
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: tonezone020
> To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:45 AM
> Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
>
> Hi,
>
> Looking at the schematics it's hard to tell - it doesn't seem like there is
> one for the underside of the board ...
>
> Regards,
>
> Tony
>
> --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> , Peter
> Mörck <peterm@> wrote:
> >
> > Just compare with the schematics?
> >
> > BR,
> > Peter
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: tonezone020
> > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
> > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Thanks for your message.
> >
> > I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but with a bit of
> coaxing the keys are now working.
> >
> > Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a tiny bit of
> success and Old Crow's advice from his site.
> >
> > I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected. Do you know if
> this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the underneath
> circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tony
> >
> > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> bastebraak <bastebraak@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed the contacts on
> my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
> > >
> > >
> > > Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@> schreef:
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble contact strips or
> alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
> > >
> > > Many thanks in advance,
> > >
> > > Tony
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
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> >
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Erm,

Correction - that should be IC24 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected to IC32 p2, 1, 17, 16

Cheers,

Tony

--- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "tonezone020" <swamp.gigs@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Don and Peter,
>
> Your messages have been very helpful consequently I've discovered anomalies elsewhere...
>
> IC26 p5 doesn't connect to IC34 p5 - should I bridge this ?
>
> IC26 to IC32 connections are all fine.
>
> Also I think there's a mistake in the schematics. Rather than IC34 connecting to IC32 it seems to be IC26 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected to IC32 p2, 1, 17, 16
>
> Regards,
>
> Tony
>
>
> --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "backshall1" <backshall1@> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, there is an error in the schematics. Pin 5 is +5v, not pin 4. Pin 4
> > really does go to pin 12 on the 8048. I just checked a clone board and an
> > old original KLM-367. They are the same.
> >
> > Don B.
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> > Peter Mörck
> > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:25 PM
> > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > You must be looking at the board layout drawing.
> > The schematics are different and have no "layers". They just show how it's
> > connected without actual physical constraints.
> >
> > Anyway, I just looked and pins 1,4,10,13,14 of IC31 are tied to +5V :)
> >
> > By the way,
> > I assume there's an error in the schematics indicating pin 4 tied to pin12
> > of the 8048, as it's also tied to +5V.
> > Either that's pin 5 instead, or vice versa.
> >
> > IC31 is just a quad AND gate acting as a buffer. Each of the AND gates has
> > one of its inputs tied to +5V so whatever appeard on the other input will
> > also appear on the output of that gate.
> >
> > The traces under IC31 are usually attacked by the battery acid though and it
> > is good if you do continuity testing around that area.
> >
> > BR,
> > Peter
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: tonezone020
> > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:45 AM
> > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Looking at the schematics it's hard to tell - it doesn't seem like there is
> > one for the underside of the board ...
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Tony
> >
> > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> , Peter
> > Mörck <peterm@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Just compare with the schematics?
> > >
> > > BR,
> > > Peter
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: tonezone020
> > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
> > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Thanks for your message.
> > >
> > > I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but with a bit of
> > coaxing the keys are now working.
> > >
> > > Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a tiny bit of
> > success and Old Crow's advice from his site.
> > >
> > > I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected. Do you know if
> > this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the underneath
> > circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Tony
> > >
> > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> > bastebraak <bastebraak@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed the contacts on
> > my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@> schreef:
> > > > Hi All,
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble contact strips or
> > alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
> > > >
> > > > Many thanks in advance,
> > > >
> > > > Tony
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
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Hi,

Regarding IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5:

Yes, they should be connected to eachother.
But more importantly, do any of them have contact with pin 11 of the 8048 (IC22) ?
IC26 and IC34 are latches, controlled by pin 11 of the 8048.
The fact that IC26 and IC34 have pins 5 connected to eachother doesn't necessarily mean any of them will work, unless they in turn are connected to the 8048 pin 11.
So connection between IC22 pin 11 <--> IC26 pin 5 <--> IC34 pin 5 is what you need.

BR,
Peter

----- Original Message -----
From: tonezone020
To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:59 AM
Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip



Erm,

Correction - that should be IC24 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected to IC32 p2, 1, 17, 16

Cheers,

Tony

--- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "tonezone020" <swamp.gigs@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Don and Peter,
>
> Your messages have been very helpful consequently I've discovered anomalies elsewhere...
>
> IC26 p5 doesn't connect to IC34 p5 - should I bridge this ?
>
> IC26 to IC32 connections are all fine.
>
> Also I think there's a mistake in the schematics. Rather than IC34 connecting to IC32 it seems to be IC26 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected to IC32 p2, 1, 17, 16
>
> Regards,
>
> Tony
>
>
> --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "backshall1" <backshall1@> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, there is an error in the schematics. Pin 5 is +5v, not pin 4. Pin 4
> > really does go to pin 12 on the 8048. I just checked a clone board and an
> > old original KLM-367. They are the same.
> >
> > Don B.
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> > Peter Mörck
> > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:25 PM
> > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > You must be looking at the board layout drawing.
> > The schematics are different and have no "layers". They just show how it's
> > connected without actual physical constraints.
> >
> > Anyway, I just looked and pins 1,4,10,13,14 of IC31 are tied to +5V :)
> >
> > By the way,
> > I assume there's an error in the schematics indicating pin 4 tied to pin12
> > of the 8048, as it's also tied to +5V.
> > Either that's pin 5 instead, or vice versa.
> >
> > IC31 is just a quad AND gate acting as a buffer. Each of the AND gates has
> > one of its inputs tied to +5V so whatever appeard on the other input will
> > also appear on the output of that gate.
> >
> > The traces under IC31 are usually attacked by the battery acid though and it
> > is good if you do continuity testing around that area.
> >
> > BR,
> > Peter
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: tonezone020
> > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:45 AM
> > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Looking at the schematics it's hard to tell - it doesn't seem like there is
> > one for the underside of the board ...
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Tony
> >
> > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> , Peter
> > Mörck <peterm@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Just compare with the schematics?
> > >
> > > BR,
> > > Peter
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: tonezone020
> > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
> > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Thanks for your message.
> > >
> > > I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but with a bit of
> > coaxing the keys are now working.
> > >
> > > Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a tiny bit of
> > success and Old Crow's advice from his site.
> > >
> > > I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected. Do you know if
> > this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the underneath
> > circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Tony
> > >
> > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> > bastebraak <bastebraak@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed the contacts on
> > my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@> schreef:
> > > > Hi All,
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble contact strips or
> > alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
> > > >
> > > > Many thanks in advance,
> > > >
> > > > Tony
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Hi Peter,

I bridged IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5 and there's continuity to IC22 pin 11 , however doing so knocked out the Bank A thru to Write switches and when the I change patch switches, the sound played doesn't.

Any pointers to where to look ?

Thanks

Tone

--- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, Peter Mörck <peterm@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Regarding IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5:
>
> Yes, they should be connected to eachother.
> But more importantly, do any of them have contact with pin 11 of the 8048 (IC22) ?
> IC26 and IC34 are latches, controlled by pin 11 of the 8048.
> The fact that IC26 and IC34 have pins 5 connected to eachother doesn't necessarily mean any of them will work, unless they in turn are connected to the 8048 pin 11.
> So connection between IC22 pin 11 <--> IC26 pin 5 <--> IC34 pin 5 is what you need.
>
> BR,
> Peter
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: tonezone020
> To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:59 AM
> Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
>
>
>
> Erm,
>
> Correction - that should be IC24 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected to IC32 p2, 1, 17, 16
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tony
>
> --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "tonezone020" <swamp.gigs@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Don and Peter,
> >
> > Your messages have been very helpful consequently I've discovered anomalies elsewhere...
> >
> > IC26 p5 doesn't connect to IC34 p5 - should I bridge this ?
> >
> > IC26 to IC32 connections are all fine.
> >
> > Also I think there's a mistake in the schematics. Rather than IC34 connecting to IC32 it seems to be IC26 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected to IC32 p2, 1, 17, 16
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Tony
> >
> >
> > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "backshall1" <backshall1@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes, there is an error in the schematics. Pin 5 is +5v, not pin 4. Pin 4
> > > really does go to pin 12 on the 8048. I just checked a clone board and an
> > > old original KLM-367. They are the same.
> > >
> > > Don B.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> > > Peter Mörck
> > > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:25 PM
> > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > You must be looking at the board layout drawing.
> > > The schematics are different and have no "layers". They just show how it's
> > > connected without actual physical constraints.
> > >
> > > Anyway, I just looked and pins 1,4,10,13,14 of IC31 are tied to +5V :)
> > >
> > > By the way,
> > > I assume there's an error in the schematics indicating pin 4 tied to pin12
> > > of the 8048, as it's also tied to +5V.
> > > Either that's pin 5 instead, or vice versa.
> > >
> > > IC31 is just a quad AND gate acting as a buffer. Each of the AND gates has
> > > one of its inputs tied to +5V so whatever appeard on the other input will
> > > also appear on the output of that gate.
> > >
> > > The traces under IC31 are usually attacked by the battery acid though and it
> > > is good if you do continuity testing around that area.
> > >
> > > BR,
> > > Peter
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: tonezone020
> > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:45 AM
> > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Looking at the schematics it's hard to tell - it doesn't seem like there is
> > > one for the underside of the board ...
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Tony
> > >
> > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> , Peter
> > > Mörck <peterm@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Just compare with the schematics?
> > > >
> > > > BR,
> > > > Peter
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: tonezone020
> > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
> > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for your message.
> > > >
> > > > I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but with a bit of
> > > coaxing the keys are now working.
> > > >
> > > > Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a tiny bit of
> > > success and Old Crow's advice from his site.
> > > >
> > > > I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected. Do you know if
> > > this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the underneath
> > > circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Tony
> > > >
> > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> > > bastebraak <bastebraak@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed the contacts on
> > > my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@> schreef:
> > > > > Hi All,
> > > > >
> > > > > Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble contact strips or
> > > alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Many thanks in advance,
> > > > >
> > > > > Tony
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ------------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > >
> > > >
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Hi again,

Should IC31 and IC30 pins 7 be connected to each other ? Also, should pin 1 from both run to ground ?

As you can tell, I'm a complete novice trying to make sure about reading the schematics !

I'm in the UK by the way. Where are you ?

Regards,

Tony

--- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "tonezone020" <swamp.gigs@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Peter,
>
> I bridged IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5 and there's continuity to IC22 pin 11 , however doing so knocked out the Bank A thru to Write switches and when the I change patch switches, the sound played doesn't.
>
> Any pointers to where to look ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Tone
>
>
> --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, Peter Mörck <peterm@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Regarding IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5:
> >
> > Yes, they should be connected to eachother.
> > But more importantly, do any of them have contact with pin 11 of the 8048 (IC22) ?
> > IC26 and IC34 are latches, controlled by pin 11 of the 8048.
> > The fact that IC26 and IC34 have pins 5 connected to eachother doesn't necessarily mean any of them will work, unless they in turn are connected to the 8048 pin 11.
> > So connection between IC22 pin 11 <--> IC26 pin 5 <--> IC34 pin 5 is what you need.
> >
> > BR,
> > Peter
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: tonezone020
> > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:59 AM
> > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >
> >
> >
> > Erm,
> >
> > Correction - that should be IC24 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected to IC32 p2, 1, 17, 16
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Tony
> >
> > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "tonezone020" <swamp.gigs@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Don and Peter,
> > >
> > > Your messages have been very helpful consequently I've discovered anomalies elsewhere...
> > >
> > > IC26 p5 doesn't connect to IC34 p5 - should I bridge this ?
> > >
> > > IC26 to IC32 connections are all fine.
> > >
> > > Also I think there's a mistake in the schematics. Rather than IC34 connecting to IC32 it seems to be IC26 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected to IC32 p2, 1, 17, 16
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Tony
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "backshall1" <backshall1@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yes, there is an error in the schematics. Pin 5 is +5v, not pin 4. Pin 4
> > > > really does go to pin 12 on the 8048. I just checked a clone board and an
> > > > old original KLM-367. They are the same.
> > > >
> > > > Don B.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _____
> > > >
> > > > From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> > > > Peter Mörck
> > > > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:25 PM
> > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You must be looking at the board layout drawing.
> > > > The schematics are different and have no "layers". They just show how it's
> > > > connected without actual physical constraints.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, I just looked and pins 1,4,10,13,14 of IC31 are tied to +5V :)
> > > >
> > > > By the way,
> > > > I assume there's an error in the schematics indicating pin 4 tied to pin12
> > > > of the 8048, as it's also tied to +5V.
> > > > Either that's pin 5 instead, or vice versa.
> > > >
> > > > IC31 is just a quad AND gate acting as a buffer. Each of the AND gates has
> > > > one of its inputs tied to +5V so whatever appeard on the other input will
> > > > also appear on the output of that gate.
> > > >
> > > > The traces under IC31 are usually attacked by the battery acid though and it
> > > > is good if you do continuity testing around that area.
> > > >
> > > > BR,
> > > > Peter
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: tonezone020
> > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:45 AM
> > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Looking at the schematics it's hard to tell - it doesn't seem like there is
> > > > one for the underside of the board ...
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Tony
> > > >
> > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> , Peter
> > > > Mörck <peterm@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Just compare with the schematics?
> > > > >
> > > > > BR,
> > > > > Peter
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: tonezone020
> > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
> > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for your message.
> > > > >
> > > > > I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but with a bit of
> > > > coaxing the keys are now working.
> > > > >
> > > > > Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a tiny bit of
> > > > success and Old Crow's advice from his site.
> > > > >
> > > > > I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected. Do you know if
> > > > this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the underneath
> > > > circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Tony
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> > > > bastebraak <bastebraak@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed the contacts on
> > > > my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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> > > > > > Hi All,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble contact strips or
> > > > alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Many thanks in advance,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tony
> > > > > >
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Pin 7 of each of those goes to ground. Pin 1 of each of those goes to the
+5v rail.

jed

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:42 PM, tonezone020 <swamp.gigs@googlemail.com>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Hi again,
>
> Should IC31 and IC30 pins 7 be connected to each other ? Also, should pin
> 1 from both run to ground ?
>
> As you can tell, I'm a complete novice trying to make sure about reading
> the schematics !
>
> I'm in the UK by the way. Where are you ?
>
> Regards,
>
> Tony
>
>
> --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "tonezone020" <swamp.gigs@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Peter,
> >
> > I bridged IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5 and there's continuity to IC22 pin
> 11 , however doing so knocked out the Bank A thru to Write switches and
> when the I change patch switches, the sound played doesn't.
> >
> > Any pointers to where to look ?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Tone
> >
> >
> > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, Peter M�rck <peterm@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Regarding IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5:
> > >
> > > Yes, they should be connected to eachother.
> > > But more importantly, do any of them have contact with pin 11 of the
> 8048 (IC22) ?
> > > IC26 and IC34 are latches, controlled by pin 11 of the 8048.
> > > The fact that IC26 and IC34 have pins 5 connected to eachother doesn't
> necessarily mean any of them will work, unless they in turn are connected
> to the 8048 pin 11.
> > > So connection between IC22 pin 11 <--> IC26 pin 5 <--> IC34 pin 5 is
> what you need.
> > >
> > > BR,
> > > Peter
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: tonezone020
> > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:59 AM
> > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Erm,
> > >
> > > Correction - that should be IC24 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected to
> IC32 p2, 1, 17, 16
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Tony
> > >
> > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "tonezone020" <swamp.gigs@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Don and Peter,
> > > >
> > > > Your messages have been very helpful consequently I've discovered
> anomalies elsewhere...
> > > >
> > > > IC26 p5 doesn't connect to IC34 p5 - should I bridge this ?
> > > >
> > > > IC26 to IC32 connections are all fine.
> > > >
> > > > Also I think there's a mistake in the schematics. Rather than IC34
> connecting to IC32 it seems to be IC26 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected to
> IC32 p2, 1, 17, 16
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Tony
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "backshall1" <backshall1@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, there is an error in the schematics. Pin 5 is +5v, not pin 4.
> Pin 4
> > > > > really does go to pin 12 on the 8048. I just checked a clone board
> and an
> > > > > old original KLM-367. They are the same.
> > > > >
> > > > > Don B.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _____
> > > > >
> > > > > From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of
> > > > > Peter M�rck
> > > > > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:25 PM
> > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You must be looking at the board layout drawing.
> > > > > The schematics are different and have no "layers". They just show
> how it's
> > > > > connected without actual physical constraints.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyway, I just looked and pins 1,4,10,13,14 of IC31 are tied to
> +5V :)
> > > > >
> > > > > By the way,
> > > > > I assume there's an error in the schematics indicating pin 4 tied
> to pin12
> > > > > of the 8048, as it's also tied to +5V.
> > > > > Either that's pin 5 instead, or vice versa.
> > > > >
> > > > > IC31 is just a quad AND gate acting as a buffer. Each of the AND
> gates has
> > > > > one of its inputs tied to +5V so whatever appeard on the other
> input will
> > > > > also appear on the output of that gate.
> > > > >
> > > > > The traces under IC31 are usually attacked by the battery acid
> though and it
> > > > > is good if you do continuity testing around that area.
> > > > >
> > > > > BR,
> > > > > Peter
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: tonezone020
> > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:45 AM
> > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > Looking at the schematics it's hard to tell - it doesn't seem like
> there is
> > > > > one for the underside of the board ...
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Tony
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> , Peter
> > > > > M�rck <peterm@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Just compare with the schematics?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BR,
> > > > > > Peter
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: tonezone020
> > > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for your message.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but with
> a bit of
> > > > > coaxing the keys are now working.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a tiny
> bit of
> > > > > success and Old Crow's advice from his site.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected. Do you
> know if
> > > > > this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the
> underneath
> > > > > circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tony
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> ,
> > > > > bastebraak <bastebraak@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed the
> contacts on
> > > > > my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@>
> schreef:
> > > > > > > Hi All,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble contact
> strips or
> > > > > alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Many thanks in advance,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Tony
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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Is that a typo (34 vs 24)?

IC26 pin 5 should go to IC24 pin 5.

jed

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:21 PM, tonezone020 <swamp.gigs@googlemail.com>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Hi Peter,
>
> I bridged IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5 and there's continuity to IC22 pin 11
> , however doing so knocked out the Bank A thru to Write switches and when
> the I change patch switches, the sound played doesn't.
>
> Any pointers to where to look ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Tone
>
>
> --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, Peter M�rck <peterm@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Regarding IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5:
> >
> > Yes, they should be connected to eachother.
> > But more importantly, do any of them have contact with pin 11 of the
> 8048 (IC22) ?
> > IC26 and IC34 are latches, controlled by pin 11 of the 8048.
> > The fact that IC26 and IC34 have pins 5 connected to eachother doesn't
> necessarily mean any of them will work, unless they in turn are connected
> to the 8048 pin 11.
> > So connection between IC22 pin 11 <--> IC26 pin 5 <--> IC34 pin 5 is
> what you need.
> >
> > BR,
> > Peter
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: tonezone020
> > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:59 AM
> > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >
> >
> >
> > Erm,
> >
> > Correction - that should be IC24 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected to IC32
> p2, 1, 17, 16
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Tony
> >
> > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "tonezone020" <swamp.gigs@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Don and Peter,
> > >
> > > Your messages have been very helpful consequently I've discovered
> anomalies elsewhere...
> > >
> > > IC26 p5 doesn't connect to IC34 p5 - should I bridge this ?
> > >
> > > IC26 to IC32 connections are all fine.
> > >
> > > Also I think there's a mistake in the schematics. Rather than IC34
> connecting to IC32 it seems to be IC26 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected to
> IC32 p2, 1, 17, 16
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Tony
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "backshall1" <backshall1@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yes, there is an error in the schematics. Pin 5 is +5v, not pin 4.
> Pin 4
> > > > really does go to pin 12 on the 8048. I just checked a clone board
> and an
> > > > old original KLM-367. They are the same.
> > > >
> > > > Don B.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _____
> > > >
> > > > From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of
> > > > Peter M�rck
> > > > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:25 PM
> > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You must be looking at the board layout drawing.
> > > > The schematics are different and have no "layers". They just show
> how it's
> > > > connected without actual physical constraints.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, I just looked and pins 1,4,10,13,14 of IC31 are tied to +5V
> :)
> > > >
> > > > By the way,
> > > > I assume there's an error in the schematics indicating pin 4 tied to
> pin12
> > > > of the 8048, as it's also tied to +5V.
> > > > Either that's pin 5 instead, or vice versa.
> > > >
> > > > IC31 is just a quad AND gate acting as a buffer. Each of the AND
> gates has
> > > > one of its inputs tied to +5V so whatever appeard on the other input
> will
> > > > also appear on the output of that gate.
> > > >
> > > > The traces under IC31 are usually attacked by the battery acid
> though and it
> > > > is good if you do continuity testing around that area.
> > > >
> > > > BR,
> > > > Peter
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: tonezone020
> > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:45 AM
> > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Looking at the schematics it's hard to tell - it doesn't seem like
> there is
> > > > one for the underside of the board ...
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Tony
> > > >
> > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> Peter
> > > > M�rck <peterm@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Just compare with the schematics?
> > > > >
> > > > > BR,
> > > > > Peter
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: tonezone020
> > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
> > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for your message.
> > > > >
> > > > > I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but with a
> bit of
> > > > coaxing the keys are now working.
> > > > >
> > > > > Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a tiny bit
> of
> > > > success and Old Crow's advice from his site.
> > > > >
> > > > > I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected. Do you
> know if
> > > > this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the underneath
> > > > circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Tony
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> ,
> > > > bastebraak <bastebraak@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed the
> contacts on
> > > > my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@> schreef:
> > > > > > Hi All,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble contact
> strips or
> > > > alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Many thanks in advance,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tony
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ------------------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
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You mean it was working before and it got worse?
What do you mean by "knocked out"? LEDs are lit/off or button presses don't do anything?
Hmm.. I'm wondering if you bridged something (that isn't supposed to be bridged) to +5V or ground.
Don't keep it turned on for long if you don't need to in case something got shorted by mistake.

I can't say exactly which traces you should check, but the traces around and under IC31 are always good candidates.
If you're "lucky", you'll have acid damage in a completely different place, as I've heard of people having damaged traces far from where the battery is, maybe due to the synth having being stored standing sideways or perhaps fumes from the leaking battery have been corrosive.
IC31 may itself be damaged but you'd have more consistent problems with almost everything on the synthesizer then I think.

Make sure pins 4,14,13,7 of IC34 aren't directly tied to ground or +5VDC (resistance testing between each pin and +5VDC point with power turned off).
There should be resistance between the pins and +5VDC due to pull-up resistor array R17 (roughly 10k)

What is currently working/not working?
Are you sure you're counting the pins on the ICs correctly?
Do you have the schematics?

BR,
Peter

----- Original Message -----
From: tonezone020
To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:21 PM
Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip



Hi Peter,

I bridged IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5 and there's continuity to IC22 pin 11 , however doing so knocked out the Bank A thru to Write switches and when the I change patch switches, the sound played doesn't.

Any pointers to where to look ?

Thanks

Tone

--- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, Peter Mörck <peterm@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Regarding IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5:
>
> Yes, they should be connected to eachother.
> But more importantly, do any of them have contact with pin 11 of the 8048 (IC22) ?
> IC26 and IC34 are latches, controlled by pin 11 of the 8048.
> The fact that IC26 and IC34 have pins 5 connected to eachother doesn't necessarily mean any of them will work, unless they in turn are connected to the 8048 pin 11.
> So connection between IC22 pin 11 <--> IC26 pin 5 <--> IC34 pin 5 is what you need.
>
> BR,
> Peter
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: tonezone020
> To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:59 AM
> Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
>
>
>
> Erm,
>
> Correction - that should be IC24 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected to IC32 p2, 1, 17, 16
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tony
>
> --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "tonezone020" <swamp.gigs@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Don and Peter,
> >
> > Your messages have been very helpful consequently I've discovered anomalies elsewhere...
> >
> > IC26 p5 doesn't connect to IC34 p5 - should I bridge this ?
> >
> > IC26 to IC32 connections are all fine.
> >
> > Also I think there's a mistake in the schematics. Rather than IC34 connecting to IC32 it seems to be IC26 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected to IC32 p2, 1, 17, 16
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Tony
> >
> >
> > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "backshall1" <backshall1@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes, there is an error in the schematics. Pin 5 is +5v, not pin 4. Pin 4
> > > really does go to pin 12 on the 8048. I just checked a clone board and an
> > > old original KLM-367. They are the same.
> > >
> > > Don B.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> > > Peter Mörck
> > > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:25 PM
> > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > You must be looking at the board layout drawing.
> > > The schematics are different and have no "layers". They just show how it's
> > > connected without actual physical constraints.
> > >
> > > Anyway, I just looked and pins 1,4,10,13,14 of IC31 are tied to +5V :)
> > >
> > > By the way,
> > > I assume there's an error in the schematics indicating pin 4 tied to pin12
> > > of the 8048, as it's also tied to +5V.
> > > Either that's pin 5 instead, or vice versa.
> > >
> > > IC31 is just a quad AND gate acting as a buffer. Each of the AND gates has
> > > one of its inputs tied to +5V so whatever appeard on the other input will
> > > also appear on the output of that gate.
> > >
> > > The traces under IC31 are usually attacked by the battery acid though and it
> > > is good if you do continuity testing around that area.
> > >
> > > BR,
> > > Peter
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: tonezone020
> > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:45 AM
> > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Looking at the schematics it's hard to tell - it doesn't seem like there is
> > > one for the underside of the board ...
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Tony
> > >
> > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> , Peter
> > > Mörck <peterm@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Just compare with the schematics?
> > > >
> > > > BR,
> > > > Peter
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: tonezone020
> > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
> > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for your message.
> > > >
> > > > I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but with a bit of
> > > coaxing the keys are now working.
> > > >
> > > > Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a tiny bit of
> > > success and Old Crow's advice from his site.
> > > >
> > > > I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected. Do you know if
> > > this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the underneath
> > > circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Tony
> > > >
> > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> > > bastebraak <bastebraak@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed the contacts on
> > > my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@> schreef:
> > > > > Hi All,
> > > > >
> > > > > Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble contact strips or
> > > alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Many thanks in advance,
> > > > >
> > > > > Tony
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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If you look at the datasheet for the 7408 you will see that pin 7 is the GND pin and thus should always be connected to ground.
In practice, this means pins 7 of ICs 30 and 31 are connected, yes, but only because they're both connected to ground.

Note: I guess the schematics are wrong again as they've marked pin 1 of IC30 as being grounded, while pin 1 is connected between IC31-30, and pin 1 is connected to +5V on IC31 = shortcircuit between +5VDC and GND :/
So that's another error in the schematics.

If you're really a novice, I would suggest handing your unit over to someone with a bit more knowledge as you can easily make things worse by using this synth as a learning testbed :) No offense, but if you don't know your way around schematics and logic circuits, please let someone else look at it.

Oh, and I'm in Sweden.
Greetings :)

BR,
Peter

----- Original Message -----
From: tonezone020
To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:42 PM
Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip



Hi again,

Should IC31 and IC30 pins 7 be connected to each other ? Also, should pin 1 from both run to ground ?

As you can tell, I'm a complete novice trying to make sure about reading the schematics !

I'm in the UK by the way. Where are you ?

Regards,

Tony

--- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "tonezone020" <swamp.gigs@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Peter,
>
> I bridged IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5 and there's continuity to IC22 pin 11 , however doing so knocked out the Bank A thru to Write switches and when the I change patch switches, the sound played doesn't.
>
> Any pointers to where to look ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Tone
>
>
> --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, Peter Mörck <peterm@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Regarding IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5:
> >
> > Yes, they should be connected to eachother.
> > But more importantly, do any of them have contact with pin 11 of the 8048 (IC22) ?
> > IC26 and IC34 are latches, controlled by pin 11 of the 8048.
> > The fact that IC26 and IC34 have pins 5 connected to eachother doesn't necessarily mean any of them will work, unless they in turn are connected to the 8048 pin 11.
> > So connection between IC22 pin 11 <--> IC26 pin 5 <--> IC34 pin 5 is what you need.
> >
> > BR,
> > Peter
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: tonezone020
> > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:59 AM
> > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >
> >
> >
> > Erm,
> >
> > Correction - that should be IC24 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected to IC32 p2, 1, 17, 16
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Tony
> >
> > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "tonezone020" <swamp.gigs@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Don and Peter,
> > >
> > > Your messages have been very helpful consequently I've discovered anomalies elsewhere...
> > >
> > > IC26 p5 doesn't connect to IC34 p5 - should I bridge this ?
> > >
> > > IC26 to IC32 connections are all fine.
> > >
> > > Also I think there's a mistake in the schematics. Rather than IC34 connecting to IC32 it seems to be IC26 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected to IC32 p2, 1, 17, 16
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Tony
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "backshall1" <backshall1@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yes, there is an error in the schematics. Pin 5 is +5v, not pin 4. Pin 4
> > > > really does go to pin 12 on the 8048. I just checked a clone board and an
> > > > old original KLM-367. They are the same.
> > > >
> > > > Don B.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _____
> > > >
> > > > From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> > > > Peter Mörck
> > > > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:25 PM
> > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You must be looking at the board layout drawing.
> > > > The schematics are different and have no "layers". They just show how it's
> > > > connected without actual physical constraints.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, I just looked and pins 1,4,10,13,14 of IC31 are tied to +5V :)
> > > >
> > > > By the way,
> > > > I assume there's an error in the schematics indicating pin 4 tied to pin12
> > > > of the 8048, as it's also tied to +5V.
> > > > Either that's pin 5 instead, or vice versa.
> > > >
> > > > IC31 is just a quad AND gate acting as a buffer. Each of the AND gates has
> > > > one of its inputs tied to +5V so whatever appeard on the other input will
> > > > also appear on the output of that gate.
> > > >
> > > > The traces under IC31 are usually attacked by the battery acid though and it
> > > > is good if you do continuity testing around that area.
> > > >
> > > > BR,
> > > > Peter
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: tonezone020
> > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:45 AM
> > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Looking at the schematics it's hard to tell - it doesn't seem like there is
> > > > one for the underside of the board ...
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Tony
> > > >
> > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> , Peter
> > > > Mörck <peterm@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Just compare with the schematics?
> > > > >
> > > > > BR,
> > > > > Peter
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: tonezone020
> > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
> > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for your message.
> > > > >
> > > > > I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but with a bit of
> > > > coaxing the keys are now working.
> > > > >
> > > > > Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a tiny bit of
> > > > success and Old Crow's advice from his site.
> > > > >
> > > > > I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected. Do you know if
> > > > this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the underneath
> > > > circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Tony
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> > > > bastebraak <bastebraak@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed the contacts on
> > > > my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@> schreef:
> > > > > > Hi All,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble contact strips or
> > > > alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Many thanks in advance,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tony
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ------------------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
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Damnit!
The 14042 below IC26 in the schematics is marked IC34, but I see now there's
another IC34 down in the lower right.
Ok, add another typo and give it credit for some more confusion...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jed Jorgensen" <jed.jorgensen@gmail.com>
To: <PolySix@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip


Is that a typo (34 vs 24)?

IC26 pin 5 should go to IC24 pin 5.

jed

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:21 PM, tonezone020
<swamp.gigs@googlemail.com>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Hi Peter,
>
> I bridged IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5 and there's continuity to IC22 pin 11
> , however doing so knocked out the Bank A thru to Write switches and when
> the I change patch switches, the sound played doesn't.
>
> Any pointers to where to look ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Tone
>
>
> --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, Peter Mörck <peterm@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Regarding IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5:
> >
> > Yes, they should be connected to eachother.
> > But more importantly, do any of them have contact with pin 11 of the
> 8048 (IC22) ?
> > IC26 and IC34 are latches, controlled by pin 11 of the 8048.
> > The fact that IC26 and IC34 have pins 5 connected to eachother doesn't
> necessarily mean any of them will work, unless they in turn are connected
> to the 8048 pin 11.
> > So connection between IC22 pin 11 <--> IC26 pin 5 <--> IC34 pin 5 is
> what you need.
> >
> > BR,
> > Peter
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: tonezone020
> > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:59 AM
> > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >
> >
> >
> > Erm,
> >
> > Correction - that should be IC24 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected to IC32
> p2, 1, 17, 16
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Tony
> >
> > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "tonezone020" <swamp.gigs@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Don and Peter,
> > >
> > > Your messages have been very helpful consequently I've discovered
> anomalies elsewhere...
> > >
> > > IC26 p5 doesn't connect to IC34 p5 - should I bridge this ?
> > >
> > > IC26 to IC32 connections are all fine.
> > >
> > > Also I think there's a mistake in the schematics. Rather than IC34
> connecting to IC32 it seems to be IC26 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected to
> IC32 p2, 1, 17, 16
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Tony
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "backshall1" <backshall1@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yes, there is an error in the schematics. Pin 5 is +5v, not pin 4.
> Pin 4
> > > > really does go to pin 12 on the 8048. I just checked a clone board
> and an
> > > > old original KLM-367. They are the same.
> > > >
> > > > Don B.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _____
> > > >
> > > > From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of
> > > > Peter Mörck
> > > > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:25 PM
> > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You must be looking at the board layout drawing.
> > > > The schematics are different and have no "layers". They just show
> how it's
> > > > connected without actual physical constraints.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, I just looked and pins 1,4,10,13,14 of IC31 are tied to +5V
> :)
> > > >
> > > > By the way,
> > > > I assume there's an error in the schematics indicating pin 4 tied to
> pin12
> > > > of the 8048, as it's also tied to +5V.
> > > > Either that's pin 5 instead, or vice versa.
> > > >
> > > > IC31 is just a quad AND gate acting as a buffer. Each of the AND
> gates has
> > > > one of its inputs tied to +5V so whatever appeard on the other input
> will
> > > > also appear on the output of that gate.
> > > >
> > > > The traces under IC31 are usually attacked by the battery acid
> though and it
> > > > is good if you do continuity testing around that area.
> > > >
> > > > BR,
> > > > Peter
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: tonezone020
> > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:45 AM
> > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Looking at the schematics it's hard to tell - it doesn't seem like
> there is
> > > > one for the underside of the board ...
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Tony
> > > >
> > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> Peter
> > > > Mörck <peterm@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Just compare with the schematics?
> > > > >
> > > > > BR,
> > > > > Peter
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: tonezone020
> > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
> > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for your message.
> > > > >
> > > > > I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but with a
> bit of
> > > > coaxing the keys are now working.
> > > > >
> > > > > Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a tiny bit
> of
> > > > success and Old Crow's advice from his site.
> > > > >
> > > > > I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected. Do you
> know if
> > > > this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the
> > > > underneath
> > > > circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Tony
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> ,
> > > > bastebraak <bastebraak@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed the
> contacts on
> > > > my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@> schreef:
> > > > > > Hi All,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble contact
> strips or
> > > > alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Many thanks in advance,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tony
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ------------------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > > > >
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Yahoo! Groups Links

Crow's schematic can be a big help:
http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/korg/polysix/crowlm367/klm367a_eagle_schem.gif

I also track things using his 'see-through' board layout (from which the
clones were derived). It is the same as the original (except the battery).

j

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Peter M�rck <peterm@sunsetselection.com>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Damnit!
> The 14042 below IC26 in the schematics is marked IC34, but I see now
> there's
> another IC34 down in the lower right.
> Ok, add another typo and give it credit for some more confusion...
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jed Jorgensen" <jed.jorgensen@gmail.com>
> To: <PolySix@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
>
> Is that a typo (34 vs 24)?
>
> IC26 pin 5 should go to IC24 pin 5.
>
> jed
>
> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:21 PM, tonezone020
> <swamp.gigs@googlemail.com>wrote:
>
> > **
>
> >
> >
> > Hi Peter,
> >
> > I bridged IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5 and there's continuity to IC22 pin 11
> > , however doing so knocked out the Bank A thru to Write switches and when
> > the I change patch switches, the sound played doesn't.
> >
> > Any pointers to where to look ?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Tone
> >
> >
> > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, Peter M�rck <peterm@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Regarding IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5:
> > >
> > > Yes, they should be connected to eachother.
> > > But more importantly, do any of them have contact with pin 11 of the
> > 8048 (IC22) ?
> > > IC26 and IC34 are latches, controlled by pin 11 of the 8048.
> > > The fact that IC26 and IC34 have pins 5 connected to eachother doesn't
> > necessarily mean any of them will work, unless they in turn are connected
> > to the 8048 pin 11.
> > > So connection between IC22 pin 11 <--> IC26 pin 5 <--> IC34 pin 5 is
> > what you need.
> > >
> > > BR,
> > > Peter
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: tonezone020
> > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:59 AM
> > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Erm,
> > >
> > > Correction - that should be IC24 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected to
> IC32
> > p2, 1, 17, 16
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Tony
> > >
> > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "tonezone020" <swamp.gigs@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Don and Peter,
> > > >
> > > > Your messages have been very helpful consequently I've discovered
> > anomalies elsewhere...
> > > >
> > > > IC26 p5 doesn't connect to IC34 p5 - should I bridge this ?
> > > >
> > > > IC26 to IC32 connections are all fine.
> > > >
> > > > Also I think there's a mistake in the schematics. Rather than IC34
> > connecting to IC32 it seems to be IC26 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected to
> > IC32 p2, 1, 17, 16
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Tony
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "backshall1" <backshall1@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, there is an error in the schematics. Pin 5 is +5v, not pin 4.
> > Pin 4
> > > > > really does go to pin 12 on the 8048. I just checked a clone board
> > and an
> > > > > old original KLM-367. They are the same.
> > > > >
> > > > > Don B.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _____
> > > > >
> > > > > From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com] On
> > Behalf Of
> > > > > Peter M�rck
> > > > > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:25 PM
> > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You must be looking at the board layout drawing.
> > > > > The schematics are different and have no "layers". They just show
> > how it's
> > > > > connected without actual physical constraints.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyway, I just looked and pins 1,4,10,13,14 of IC31 are tied to +5V
> > :)
> > > > >
> > > > > By the way,
> > > > > I assume there's an error in the schematics indicating pin 4 tied
> to
> > pin12
> > > > > of the 8048, as it's also tied to +5V.
> > > > > Either that's pin 5 instead, or vice versa.
> > > > >
> > > > > IC31 is just a quad AND gate acting as a buffer. Each of the AND
> > gates has
> > > > > one of its inputs tied to +5V so whatever appeard on the other
> input
> > will
> > > > > also appear on the output of that gate.
> > > > >
> > > > > The traces under IC31 are usually attacked by the battery acid
> > though and it
> > > > > is good if you do continuity testing around that area.
> > > > >
> > > > > BR,
> > > > > Peter
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: tonezone020
> > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:45 AM
> > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > Looking at the schematics it's hard to tell - it doesn't seem like
> > there is
> > > > > one for the underside of the board ...
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Tony
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> ,
> > Peter
> > > > > M�rck <peterm@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Just compare with the schematics?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BR,
> > > > > > Peter
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: tonezone020
> > > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for your message.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but with a
> > bit of
> > > > > coaxing the keys are now working.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a tiny
> bit
> > of
> > > > > success and Old Crow's advice from his site.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected. Do you
> > know if
> > > > > this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the
> > > > > underneath
> > > > > circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tony
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com
> >
> > ,
> > > > > bastebraak <bastebraak@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed the
> > contacts on
> > > > > my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@>
> schreef:
> > > > > > > Hi All,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble contact
> > strips or
> > > > > alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Many thanks in advance,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Tony
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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oops -- meant to post this too:
http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/korg/polysix/crowlm367/klm367a_img.gif

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Jed Jorgensen <jed.jorgensen@gmail.com>wrote:

> Crow's schematic can be a big help:
>
> http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/korg/polysix/crowlm367/klm367a_eagle_schem.gif
>
> I also track things using his 'see-through' board layout (from which the
> clones were derived). It is the same as the original (except the battery).
>
> j
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Peter M�rck <peterm@sunsetselection.com>wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> Damnit!
>> The 14042 below IC26 in the schematics is marked IC34, but I see now
>> there's
>> another IC34 down in the lower right.
>> Ok, add another typo and give it credit for some more confusion...
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jed Jorgensen" <jed.jorgensen@gmail.com>
>> To: <PolySix@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:55 PM
>> Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
>>
>> Is that a typo (34 vs 24)?
>>
>> IC26 pin 5 should go to IC24 pin 5.
>>
>> jed
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:21 PM, tonezone020
>> <swamp.gigs@googlemail.com>wrote:
>>
>> > **
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi Peter,
>> >
>> > I bridged IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5 and there's continuity to IC22 pin
>> 11
>> > , however doing so knocked out the Bank A thru to Write switches and
>> when
>> > the I change patch switches, the sound played doesn't.
>> >
>> > Any pointers to where to look ?
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > Tone
>> >
>> >
>> > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, Peter M�rck <peterm@...> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > > Regarding IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5:
>> > >
>> > > Yes, they should be connected to eachother.
>> > > But more importantly, do any of them have contact with pin 11 of the
>> > 8048 (IC22) ?
>> > > IC26 and IC34 are latches, controlled by pin 11 of the 8048.
>> > > The fact that IC26 and IC34 have pins 5 connected to eachother doesn't
>> > necessarily mean any of them will work, unless they in turn are
>> connected
>> > to the 8048 pin 11.
>> > > So connection between IC22 pin 11 <--> IC26 pin 5 <--> IC34 pin 5 is
>> > what you need.
>> > >
>> > > BR,
>> > > Peter
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: tonezone020
>> > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
>> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:59 AM
>> > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Erm,
>> > >
>> > > Correction - that should be IC24 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected to
>> IC32
>> > p2, 1, 17, 16
>> > >
>> > > Cheers,
>> > >
>> > > Tony
>> > >
>> > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "tonezone020" <swamp.gigs@> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Hi Don and Peter,
>> > > >
>> > > > Your messages have been very helpful consequently I've discovered
>> > anomalies elsewhere...
>> > > >
>> > > > IC26 p5 doesn't connect to IC34 p5 - should I bridge this ?
>> > > >
>> > > > IC26 to IC32 connections are all fine.
>> > > >
>> > > > Also I think there's a mistake in the schematics. Rather than IC34
>> > connecting to IC32 it seems to be IC26 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected
>> to
>> > IC32 p2, 1, 17, 16
>> > > >
>> > > > Regards,
>> > > >
>> > > > Tony
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "backshall1" <backshall1@> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Yes, there is an error in the schematics. Pin 5 is +5v, not pin 4.
>> > Pin 4
>> > > > > really does go to pin 12 on the 8048. I just checked a clone board
>> > and an
>> > > > > old original KLM-367. They are the same.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Don B.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > _____
>> > > > >
>> > > > > From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com] On
>> > Behalf Of
>> > > > > Peter M�rck
>> > > > > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:25 PM
>> > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
>> > > > > Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > You must be looking at the board layout drawing.
>> > > > > The schematics are different and have no "layers". They just show
>> > how it's
>> > > > > connected without actual physical constraints.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Anyway, I just looked and pins 1,4,10,13,14 of IC31 are tied to
>> +5V
>> > :)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > By the way,
>> > > > > I assume there's an error in the schematics indicating pin 4 tied
>> to
>> > pin12
>> > > > > of the 8048, as it's also tied to +5V.
>> > > > > Either that's pin 5 instead, or vice versa.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > IC31 is just a quad AND gate acting as a buffer. Each of the AND
>> > gates has
>> > > > > one of its inputs tied to +5V so whatever appeard on the other
>> input
>> > will
>> > > > > also appear on the output of that gate.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > The traces under IC31 are usually attacked by the battery acid
>> > though and it
>> > > > > is good if you do continuity testing around that area.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > BR,
>> > > > > Peter
>> > > > >
>> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > From: tonezone020
>> > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
>> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:45 AM
>> > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Hi,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Looking at the schematics it's hard to tell - it doesn't seem like
>> > there is
>> > > > > one for the underside of the board ...
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Regards,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Tony
>> > > > >
>> > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
>> ,
>> > Peter
>> > > > > M�rck <peterm@> wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Just compare with the schematics?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > BR,
>> > > > > > Peter
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > > From: tonezone020
>> > > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
>> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
>> > > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Hi,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Thanks for your message.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but with
>> a
>> > bit of
>> > > > > coaxing the keys are now working.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a tiny
>> bit
>> > of
>> > > > > success and Old Crow's advice from his site.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected. Do you
>> > know if
>> > > > > this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the
>> > > > > underneath
>> > > > > circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Thanks,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Tony
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:
>> PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
>> > ,
>> > > > > bastebraak <bastebraak@> wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed the
>> > contacts on
>> > > > > my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@>
>> schreef:
>> > > > > > > Hi All,
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble contact
>> > strips or
>> > > > > alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Many thanks in advance,
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Tony
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
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Oh, nice :)
Thanks for that.

Right, now listen to Jed, he knows better ;)
Sorry for the confusion but I was only looking at the old scanned
schematics, and they're obviously full off mistakes...

BR,
Peter

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jed Jorgensen" <jed.jorgensen@gmail.com>
To: <PolySix@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip


oops -- meant to post this too:
http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/korg/polysix/crowlm367/klm367a_img.gif


On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Jed Jorgensen
<jed.jorgensen@gmail.com>wrote:

> Crow's schematic can be a big help:
>
> http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/korg/polysix/crowlm367/klm367a_eagle_schem.gif
>
> I also track things using his 'see-through' board layout (from which the
> clones were derived). It is the same as the original (except the battery).
>
> j
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Peter Mörck
> <peterm@sunsetselection.com>wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> Damnit!
>> The 14042 below IC26 in the schematics is marked IC34, but I see now
>> there's
>> another IC34 down in the lower right.
>> Ok, add another typo and give it credit for some more confusion...
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jed Jorgensen" <jed.jorgensen@gmail.com>
>> To: <PolySix@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:55 PM
>> Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
>>
>> Is that a typo (34 vs 24)?
>>
>> IC26 pin 5 should go to IC24 pin 5.
>>
>> jed
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:21 PM, tonezone020
>> <swamp.gigs@googlemail.com>wrote:
>>
>> > **
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi Peter,
>> >
>> > I bridged IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5 and there's continuity to IC22 pin
>> 11
>> > , however doing so knocked out the Bank A thru to Write switches and
>> when
>> > the I change patch switches, the sound played doesn't.
>> >
>> > Any pointers to where to look ?
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > Tone
>> >
>> >
>> > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, Peter Mörck <peterm@...> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > > Regarding IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5:
>> > >
>> > > Yes, they should be connected to eachother.
>> > > But more importantly, do any of them have contact with pin 11 of the
>> > 8048 (IC22) ?
>> > > IC26 and IC34 are latches, controlled by pin 11 of the 8048.
>> > > The fact that IC26 and IC34 have pins 5 connected to eachother
>> > > doesn't
>> > necessarily mean any of them will work, unless they in turn are
>> connected
>> > to the 8048 pin 11.
>> > > So connection between IC22 pin 11 <--> IC26 pin 5 <--> IC34 pin 5 is
>> > what you need.
>> > >
>> > > BR,
>> > > Peter
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: tonezone020
>> > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
>> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:59 AM
>> > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Erm,
>> > >
>> > > Correction - that should be IC24 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected to
>> IC32
>> > p2, 1, 17, 16
>> > >
>> > > Cheers,
>> > >
>> > > Tony
>> > >
>> > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "tonezone020" <swamp.gigs@> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Hi Don and Peter,
>> > > >
>> > > > Your messages have been very helpful consequently I've discovered
>> > anomalies elsewhere...
>> > > >
>> > > > IC26 p5 doesn't connect to IC34 p5 - should I bridge this ?
>> > > >
>> > > > IC26 to IC32 connections are all fine.
>> > > >
>> > > > Also I think there's a mistake in the schematics. Rather than IC34
>> > connecting to IC32 it seems to be IC26 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected
>> to
>> > IC32 p2, 1, 17, 16
>> > > >
>> > > > Regards,
>> > > >
>> > > > Tony
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "backshall1" <backshall1@> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Yes, there is an error in the schematics. Pin 5 is +5v, not pin
>> > > > > 4.
>> > Pin 4
>> > > > > really does go to pin 12 on the 8048. I just checked a clone
>> > > > > board
>> > and an
>> > > > > old original KLM-367. They are the same.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Don B.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > _____
>> > > > >
>> > > > > From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com] On
>> > Behalf Of
>> > > > > Peter Mörck
>> > > > > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:25 PM
>> > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
>> > > > > Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > You must be looking at the board layout drawing.
>> > > > > The schematics are different and have no "layers". They just show
>> > how it's
>> > > > > connected without actual physical constraints.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Anyway, I just looked and pins 1,4,10,13,14 of IC31 are tied to
>> +5V
>> > :)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > By the way,
>> > > > > I assume there's an error in the schematics indicating pin 4 tied
>> to
>> > pin12
>> > > > > of the 8048, as it's also tied to +5V.
>> > > > > Either that's pin 5 instead, or vice versa.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > IC31 is just a quad AND gate acting as a buffer. Each of the AND
>> > gates has
>> > > > > one of its inputs tied to +5V so whatever appeard on the other
>> input
>> > will
>> > > > > also appear on the output of that gate.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > The traces under IC31 are usually attacked by the battery acid
>> > though and it
>> > > > > is good if you do continuity testing around that area.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > BR,
>> > > > > Peter
>> > > > >
>> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > From: tonezone020
>> > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
>> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:45 AM
>> > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Hi,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Looking at the schematics it's hard to tell - it doesn't seem
>> > > > > like
>> > there is
>> > > > > one for the underside of the board ...
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Regards,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Tony
>> > > > >
>> > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
>> ,
>> > Peter
>> > > > > Mörck <peterm@> wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Just compare with the schematics?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > BR,
>> > > > > > Peter
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > > From: tonezone020
>> > > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
>> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
>> > > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Hi,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Thanks for your message.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but with
>> a
>> > bit of
>> > > > > coaxing the keys are now working.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a tiny
>> bit
>> > of
>> > > > > success and Old Crow's advice from his site.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected. Do
>> > > > > > you
>> > know if
>> > > > > this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the
>> > > > > underneath
>> > > > > circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Thanks,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Tony
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:
>> PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
>> > ,
>> > > > > bastebraak <bastebraak@> wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed the
>> > contacts on
>> > > > > my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@>
>> schreef:
>> > > > > > > Hi All,
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble contact
>> > strips or
>> > > > > alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Many thanks in advance,
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Tony
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
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>
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Yahoo! Groups Links

I believe that this is the most clear, complete and up to date Polysix
service manual on the web:
http://www.synfo.nl/servicemanuals/Korg/POLYSIX_SERVICE_MANUAL.pdf

Hope it helps!
James

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Peter M�rck <peterm@sunsetselection.com>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Oh, nice :)
> Thanks for that.
>
> Right, now listen to Jed, he knows better ;)
> Sorry for the confusion but I was only looking at the old scanned
> schematics, and they're obviously full off mistakes...
>
>
> BR,
> Peter
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jed Jorgensen" <jed.jorgensen@gmail.com>
> To: <PolySix@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 10:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
>
> oops -- meant to post this too:
>
> http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/korg/polysix/crowlm367/klm367a_img.gif
>
> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Jed Jorgensen
> <jed.jorgensen@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > Crow's schematic can be a big help:
> >
> >
> http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/korg/polysix/crowlm367/klm367a_eagle_schem.gif
> >
> > I also track things using his 'see-through' board layout (from which the
> > clones were derived). It is the same as the original (except the
> battery).
> >
> > j
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Peter M�rck
> > <peterm@sunsetselection.com>wrote:
> >
> >> **
> >>
> >>
> >> Damnit!
> >> The 14042 below IC26 in the schematics is marked IC34, but I see now
> >> there's
> >> another IC34 down in the lower right.
> >> Ok, add another typo and give it credit for some more confusion...
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Jed Jorgensen" <jed.jorgensen@gmail.com>
> >> To: <PolySix@yahoogroups.com>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:55 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >>
> >> Is that a typo (34 vs 24)?
> >>
> >> IC26 pin 5 should go to IC24 pin 5.
> >>
> >> jed
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:21 PM, tonezone020
> >> <swamp.gigs@googlemail.com>wrote:
> >>
> >> > **
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Hi Peter,
> >> >
> >> > I bridged IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5 and there's continuity to IC22 pin
> >> 11
> >> > , however doing so knocked out the Bank A thru to Write switches and
> >> when
> >> > the I change patch switches, the sound played doesn't.
> >> >
> >> > Any pointers to where to look ?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> >
> >> > Tone
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, Peter M�rck <peterm@...> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Hi,
> >> > >
> >> > > Regarding IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5:
> >> > >
> >> > > Yes, they should be connected to eachother.
> >> > > But more importantly, do any of them have contact with pin 11 of the
> >> > 8048 (IC22) ?
> >> > > IC26 and IC34 are latches, controlled by pin 11 of the 8048.
> >> > > The fact that IC26 and IC34 have pins 5 connected to eachother
> >> > > doesn't
> >> > necessarily mean any of them will work, unless they in turn are
> >> connected
> >> > to the 8048 pin 11.
> >> > > So connection between IC22 pin 11 <--> IC26 pin 5 <--> IC34 pin 5 is
> >> > what you need.
> >> > >
> >> > > BR,
> >> > > Peter
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > From: tonezone020
> >> > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> >> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:59 AM
> >> > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Erm,
> >> > >
> >> > > Correction - that should be IC24 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected to
> >> IC32
> >> > p2, 1, 17, 16
> >> > >
> >> > > Cheers,
> >> > >
> >> > > Tony
> >> > >
> >> > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "tonezone020" <swamp.gigs@> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Hi Don and Peter,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Your messages have been very helpful consequently I've discovered
> >> > anomalies elsewhere...
> >> > > >
> >> > > > IC26 p5 doesn't connect to IC34 p5 - should I bridge this ?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > IC26 to IC32 connections are all fine.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Also I think there's a mistake in the schematics. Rather than IC34
> >> > connecting to IC32 it seems to be IC26 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected
> >> to
> >> > IC32 p2, 1, 17, 16
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Regards,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Tony
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "backshall1" <backshall1@> wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Yes, there is an error in the schematics. Pin 5 is +5v, not pin
> >> > > > > 4.
> >> > Pin 4
> >> > > > > really does go to pin 12 on the 8048. I just checked a clone
> >> > > > > board
> >> > and an
> >> > > > > old original KLM-367. They are the same.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Don B.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > _____
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com]
> On
> >> > Behalf Of
> >> > > > > Peter M�rck
> >> > > > > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:25 PM
> >> > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> >> > > > > Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > You must be looking at the board layout drawing.
> >> > > > > The schematics are different and have no "layers". They just
> show
> >> > how it's
> >> > > > > connected without actual physical constraints.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Anyway, I just looked and pins 1,4,10,13,14 of IC31 are tied to
> >> +5V
> >> > :)
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > By the way,
> >> > > > > I assume there's an error in the schematics indicating pin 4
> tied
> >> to
> >> > pin12
> >> > > > > of the 8048, as it's also tied to +5V.
> >> > > > > Either that's pin 5 instead, or vice versa.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > IC31 is just a quad AND gate acting as a buffer. Each of the AND
> >> > gates has
> >> > > > > one of its inputs tied to +5V so whatever appeard on the other
> >> input
> >> > will
> >> > > > > also appear on the output of that gate.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > The traces under IC31 are usually attacked by the battery acid
> >> > though and it
> >> > > > > is good if you do continuity testing around that area.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > BR,
> >> > > > > Peter
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > From: tonezone020
> >> > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:45 AM
> >> > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Hi,
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Looking at the schematics it's hard to tell - it doesn't seem
> >> > > > > like
> >> > there is
> >> > > > > one for the underside of the board ...
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Regards,
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Tony
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:
> PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> ,
> >> > Peter
> >> > > > > M�rck <peterm@> wrote:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Just compare with the schematics?
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > BR,
> >> > > > > > Peter
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > > From: tonezone020
> >> > > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com
> >
> >> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
> >> > > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Hi,
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Thanks for your message.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but
> with
> >> a
> >> > bit of
> >> > > > > coaxing the keys are now working.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a tiny
> >> bit
> >> > of
> >> > > > > success and Old Crow's advice from his site.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected. Do
> >> > > > > > you
> >> > know if
> >> > > > > this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the
> >> > > > > underneath
> >> > > > > circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Thanks,
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Tony
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:
> >> PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> > ,
> >> > > > > bastebraak <bastebraak@> wrote:
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed the
> >> > contacts on
> >> > > > > my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@>
> >> schreef:
> >> > > > > > > Hi All,
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble
> contact
> >> > strips or
> >> > > > > alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Many thanks in advance,
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Tony
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
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Well...I don't know if I 'know better'. I just have some other tools.

I'm not that great at troubleshooting, honestly.

j

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Peter M�rck <peterm@sunsetselection.com>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Oh, nice :)
> Thanks for that.
>
> Right, now listen to Jed, he knows better ;)
> Sorry for the confusion but I was only looking at the old scanned
> schematics, and they're obviously full off mistakes...
>
>
> BR,
> Peter
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jed Jorgensen" <jed.jorgensen@gmail.com>
> To: <PolySix@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 10:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
>
> oops -- meant to post this too:
>
> http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/korg/polysix/crowlm367/klm367a_img.gif
>
> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Jed Jorgensen
> <jed.jorgensen@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > Crow's schematic can be a big help:
> >
> >
> http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/korg/polysix/crowlm367/klm367a_eagle_schem.gif
> >
> > I also track things using his 'see-through' board layout (from which the
> > clones were derived). It is the same as the original (except the
> battery).
> >
> > j
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Peter M�rck
> > <peterm@sunsetselection.com>wrote:
> >
> >> **
>
> >>
> >>
> >> Damnit!
> >> The 14042 below IC26 in the schematics is marked IC34, but I see now
> >> there's
> >> another IC34 down in the lower right.
> >> Ok, add another typo and give it credit for some more confusion...
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Jed Jorgensen" <jed.jorgensen@gmail.com>
> >> To: <PolySix@yahoogroups.com>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:55 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >>
> >> Is that a typo (34 vs 24)?
> >>
> >> IC26 pin 5 should go to IC24 pin 5.
> >>
> >> jed
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:21 PM, tonezone020
> >> <swamp.gigs@googlemail.com>wrote:
> >>
> >> > **
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Hi Peter,
> >> >
> >> > I bridged IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5 and there's continuity to IC22 pin
> >> 11
> >> > , however doing so knocked out the Bank A thru to Write switches and
> >> when
> >> > the I change patch switches, the sound played doesn't.
> >> >
> >> > Any pointers to where to look ?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> >
> >> > Tone
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, Peter M�rck <peterm@...> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Hi,
> >> > >
> >> > > Regarding IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5:
> >> > >
> >> > > Yes, they should be connected to eachother.
> >> > > But more importantly, do any of them have contact with pin 11 of the
> >> > 8048 (IC22) ?
> >> > > IC26 and IC34 are latches, controlled by pin 11 of the 8048.
> >> > > The fact that IC26 and IC34 have pins 5 connected to eachother
> >> > > doesn't
> >> > necessarily mean any of them will work, unless they in turn are
> >> connected
> >> > to the 8048 pin 11.
> >> > > So connection between IC22 pin 11 <--> IC26 pin 5 <--> IC34 pin 5 is
> >> > what you need.
> >> > >
> >> > > BR,
> >> > > Peter
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > From: tonezone020
> >> > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> >> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:59 AM
> >> > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Erm,
> >> > >
> >> > > Correction - that should be IC24 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected to
> >> IC32
> >> > p2, 1, 17, 16
> >> > >
> >> > > Cheers,
> >> > >
> >> > > Tony
> >> > >
> >> > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "tonezone020" <swamp.gigs@> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Hi Don and Peter,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Your messages have been very helpful consequently I've discovered
> >> > anomalies elsewhere...
> >> > > >
> >> > > > IC26 p5 doesn't connect to IC34 p5 - should I bridge this ?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > IC26 to IC32 connections are all fine.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Also I think there's a mistake in the schematics. Rather than IC34
> >> > connecting to IC32 it seems to be IC26 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected
> >> to
> >> > IC32 p2, 1, 17, 16
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Regards,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Tony
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "backshall1" <backshall1@> wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Yes, there is an error in the schematics. Pin 5 is +5v, not pin
> >> > > > > 4.
> >> > Pin 4
> >> > > > > really does go to pin 12 on the 8048. I just checked a clone
> >> > > > > board
> >> > and an
> >> > > > > old original KLM-367. They are the same.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Don B.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > _____
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com]
> On
> >> > Behalf Of
> >> > > > > Peter M�rck
> >> > > > > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:25 PM
> >> > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> >> > > > > Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > You must be looking at the board layout drawing.
> >> > > > > The schematics are different and have no "layers". They just
> show
> >> > how it's
> >> > > > > connected without actual physical constraints.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Anyway, I just looked and pins 1,4,10,13,14 of IC31 are tied to
> >> +5V
> >> > :)
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > By the way,
> >> > > > > I assume there's an error in the schematics indicating pin 4
> tied
> >> to
> >> > pin12
> >> > > > > of the 8048, as it's also tied to +5V.
> >> > > > > Either that's pin 5 instead, or vice versa.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > IC31 is just a quad AND gate acting as a buffer. Each of the AND
> >> > gates has
> >> > > > > one of its inputs tied to +5V so whatever appeard on the other
> >> input
> >> > will
> >> > > > > also appear on the output of that gate.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > The traces under IC31 are usually attacked by the battery acid
> >> > though and it
> >> > > > > is good if you do continuity testing around that area.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > BR,
> >> > > > > Peter
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > From: tonezone020
> >> > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:45 AM
> >> > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Hi,
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Looking at the schematics it's hard to tell - it doesn't seem
> >> > > > > like
> >> > there is
> >> > > > > one for the underside of the board ...
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Regards,
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Tony
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:
> PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> ,
> >> > Peter
> >> > > > > M�rck <peterm@> wrote:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Just compare with the schematics?
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > BR,
> >> > > > > > Peter
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > > From: tonezone020
> >> > > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com
> >
> >> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
> >> > > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Hi,
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Thanks for your message.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but
> with
> >> a
> >> > bit of
> >> > > > > coaxing the keys are now working.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a tiny
> >> bit
> >> > of
> >> > > > > success and Old Crow's advice from his site.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected. Do
> >> > > > > > you
> >> > know if
> >> > > > > this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the
> >> > > > > underneath
> >> > > > > circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Thanks,
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Tony
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:
> >> PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> > ,
> >> > > > > bastebraak <bastebraak@> wrote:
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed the
> >> > contacts on
> >> > > > > my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@>
> >> schreef:
> >> > > > > > > Hi All,
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble
> contact
> >> > strips or
> >> > > > > alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Many thanks in advance,
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Tony
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
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Hi,

I'd been following Old Crows instructions but didn't spot those two diagrams Thanks for that, especially the see thru.

Re IC24 IC26 and IC34 - all pins 5s are linked.

The buttons are back except Bank D,Patch 4 and 8 - probably new tacts ?

Patches no longer storing at the moment.

Found dry joint on IC30 Pin 7...

I'll follow the +5 thru and then test again.

Best,

Tone

--- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, Jed Jorgensen <jed.jorgensen@...> wrote:
>
> oops -- meant to post this too:
> http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/korg/polysix/crowlm367/klm367a_img.gif
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Jed Jorgensen <jed.jorgensen@...>wrote:
>
> > Crow's schematic can be a big help:
> >
> > http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/korg/polysix/crowlm367/klm367a_eagle_schem.gif
> >
> > I also track things using his 'see-through' board layout (from which the
> > clones were derived). It is the same as the original (except the battery).
> >
> > j
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Peter Mörck <peterm@...>wrote:
> >
> >> **
> >>
> >>
> >> Damnit!
> >> The 14042 below IC26 in the schematics is marked IC34, but I see now
> >> there's
> >> another IC34 down in the lower right.
> >> Ok, add another typo and give it credit for some more confusion...
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Jed Jorgensen" <jed.jorgensen@...>
> >> To: <PolySix@yahoogroups.com>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:55 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >>
> >> Is that a typo (34 vs 24)?
> >>
> >> IC26 pin 5 should go to IC24 pin 5.
> >>
> >> jed
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:21 PM, tonezone020
> >> <swamp.gigs@...>wrote:
> >>
> >> > **
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Hi Peter,
> >> >
> >> > I bridged IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5 and there's continuity to IC22 pin
> >> 11
> >> > , however doing so knocked out the Bank A thru to Write switches and
> >> when
> >> > the I change patch switches, the sound played doesn't.
> >> >
> >> > Any pointers to where to look ?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> >
> >> > Tone
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, Peter Mörck <peterm@> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Hi,
> >> > >
> >> > > Regarding IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5:
> >> > >
> >> > > Yes, they should be connected to eachother.
> >> > > But more importantly, do any of them have contact with pin 11 of the
> >> > 8048 (IC22) ?
> >> > > IC26 and IC34 are latches, controlled by pin 11 of the 8048.
> >> > > The fact that IC26 and IC34 have pins 5 connected to eachother doesn't
> >> > necessarily mean any of them will work, unless they in turn are
> >> connected
> >> > to the 8048 pin 11.
> >> > > So connection between IC22 pin 11 <--> IC26 pin 5 <--> IC34 pin 5 is
> >> > what you need.
> >> > >
> >> > > BR,
> >> > > Peter
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > From: tonezone020
> >> > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> >> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:59 AM
> >> > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Erm,
> >> > >
> >> > > Correction - that should be IC24 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected to
> >> IC32
> >> > p2, 1, 17, 16
> >> > >
> >> > > Cheers,
> >> > >
> >> > > Tony
> >> > >
> >> > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "tonezone020" <swamp.gigs@> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Hi Don and Peter,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Your messages have been very helpful consequently I've discovered
> >> > anomalies elsewhere...
> >> > > >
> >> > > > IC26 p5 doesn't connect to IC34 p5 - should I bridge this ?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > IC26 to IC32 connections are all fine.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Also I think there's a mistake in the schematics. Rather than IC34
> >> > connecting to IC32 it seems to be IC26 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected
> >> to
> >> > IC32 p2, 1, 17, 16
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Regards,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Tony
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "backshall1" <backshall1@> wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Yes, there is an error in the schematics. Pin 5 is +5v, not pin 4.
> >> > Pin 4
> >> > > > > really does go to pin 12 on the 8048. I just checked a clone board
> >> > and an
> >> > > > > old original KLM-367. They are the same.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Don B.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > _____
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com] On
> >> > Behalf Of
> >> > > > > Peter Mörck
> >> > > > > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:25 PM
> >> > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> >> > > > > Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > You must be looking at the board layout drawing.
> >> > > > > The schematics are different and have no "layers". They just show
> >> > how it's
> >> > > > > connected without actual physical constraints.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Anyway, I just looked and pins 1,4,10,13,14 of IC31 are tied to
> >> +5V
> >> > :)
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > By the way,
> >> > > > > I assume there's an error in the schematics indicating pin 4 tied
> >> to
> >> > pin12
> >> > > > > of the 8048, as it's also tied to +5V.
> >> > > > > Either that's pin 5 instead, or vice versa.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > IC31 is just a quad AND gate acting as a buffer. Each of the AND
> >> > gates has
> >> > > > > one of its inputs tied to +5V so whatever appeard on the other
> >> input
> >> > will
> >> > > > > also appear on the output of that gate.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > The traces under IC31 are usually attacked by the battery acid
> >> > though and it
> >> > > > > is good if you do continuity testing around that area.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > BR,
> >> > > > > Peter
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > From: tonezone020
> >> > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:45 AM
> >> > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Hi,
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Looking at the schematics it's hard to tell - it doesn't seem like
> >> > there is
> >> > > > > one for the underside of the board ...
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Regards,
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Tony
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> ,
> >> > Peter
> >> > > > > Mörck <peterm@> wrote:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Just compare with the schematics?
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > BR,
> >> > > > > > Peter
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > > From: tonezone020
> >> > > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
> >> > > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Hi,
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Thanks for your message.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but with
> >> a
> >> > bit of
> >> > > > > coaxing the keys are now working.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a tiny
> >> bit
> >> > of
> >> > > > > success and Old Crow's advice from his site.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected. Do you
> >> > know if
> >> > > > > this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the
> >> > > > > underneath
> >> > > > > circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Thanks,
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Tony
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:
> >> PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> > ,
> >> > > > > bastebraak <bastebraak@> wrote:
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed the
> >> > contacts on
> >> > > > > my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@>
> >> schreef:
> >> > > > > > > Hi All,
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble contact
> >> > strips or
> >> > > > > alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Many thanks in advance,
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Tony
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
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I don't believe IC34 should be directly connected to the others. Double
check the schematics for that.

J

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 2:26 PM, tonezone020 <swamp.gigs@googlemail.com>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I'd been following Old Crows instructions but didn't spot those two
> diagrams Thanks for that, especially the see thru.
>
> Re IC24 IC26 and IC34 - all pins 5s are linked.
>
> The buttons are back except Bank D,Patch 4 and 8 - probably new tacts ?
>
> Patches no longer storing at the moment.
>
> Found dry joint on IC30 Pin 7...
>
> I'll follow the +5 thru and then test again.
>
> Best,
>
> Tone
>
>
> --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, Jed Jorgensen <jed.jorgensen@...> wrote:
> >
> > oops -- meant to post this too:
> >
> http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/korg/polysix/crowlm367/klm367a_img.gif
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Jed Jorgensen <jed.jorgensen@...>wrote:
>
> >
> > > Crow's schematic can be a big help:
> > >
> > >
> http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/korg/polysix/crowlm367/klm367a_eagle_schem.gif
> > >
> > > I also track things using his 'see-through' board layout (from which
> the
> > > clones were derived). It is the same as the original (except the
> battery).
> > >
> > > j
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Peter M�rck <peterm@...>wrote:
> > >
> > >> **
>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Damnit!
> > >> The 14042 below IC26 in the schematics is marked IC34, but I see now
> > >> there's
> > >> another IC34 down in the lower right.
> > >> Ok, add another typo and give it credit for some more confusion...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Jed Jorgensen" <jed.jorgensen@...>
> > >> To: <PolySix@yahoogroups.com>
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:55 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > >>
> > >> Is that a typo (34 vs 24)?
> > >>
> > >> IC26 pin 5 should go to IC24 pin 5.
> > >>
> > >> jed
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:21 PM, tonezone020
> > >> <swamp.gigs@...>wrote:
>
> > >>
> > >> > **
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Hi Peter,
> > >> >
> > >> > I bridged IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5 and there's continuity to IC22
> pin
> > >> 11
> > >> > , however doing so knocked out the Bank A thru to Write switches and
> > >> when
> > >> > the I change patch switches, the sound played doesn't.
> > >> >
> > >> > Any pointers to where to look ?
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks
> > >> >
> > >> > Tone
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, Peter M�rck <peterm@> wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Hi,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Regarding IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Yes, they should be connected to eachother.
> > >> > > But more importantly, do any of them have contact with pin 11 of
> the
> > >> > 8048 (IC22) ?
> > >> > > IC26 and IC34 are latches, controlled by pin 11 of the 8048.
> > >> > > The fact that IC26 and IC34 have pins 5 connected to eachother
> doesn't
> > >> > necessarily mean any of them will work, unless they in turn are
> > >> connected
> > >> > to the 8048 pin 11.
> > >> > > So connection between IC22 pin 11 <--> IC26 pin 5 <--> IC34 pin 5
> is
> > >> > what you need.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > BR,
> > >> > > Peter
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> > > From: tonezone020
> > >> > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:59 AM
> > >> > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Erm,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Correction - that should be IC24 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected
> to
> > >> IC32
> > >> > p2, 1, 17, 16
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Cheers,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Tony
> > >> > >
> > >> > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "tonezone020" <swamp.gigs@>
> wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Hi Don and Peter,
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Your messages have been very helpful consequently I've
> discovered
> > >> > anomalies elsewhere...
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > IC26 p5 doesn't connect to IC34 p5 - should I bridge this ?
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > IC26 to IC32 connections are all fine.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Also I think there's a mistake in the schematics. Rather than
> IC34
> > >> > connecting to IC32 it seems to be IC26 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is
> connected
> > >> to
> > >> > IC32 p2, 1, 17, 16
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Regards,
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Tony
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "backshall1" <backshall1@>
> wrote:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Yes, there is an error in the schematics. Pin 5 is +5v, not
> pin 4.
> > >> > Pin 4
> > >> > > > > really does go to pin 12 on the 8048. I just checked a clone
> board
> > >> > and an
> > >> > > > > old original KLM-367. They are the same.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Don B.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > _____
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com]
> On
> > >> > Behalf Of
> > >> > > > > Peter M�rck
> > >> > > > > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:25 PM
> > >> > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> > >> > > > > Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > You must be looking at the board layout drawing.
> > >> > > > > The schematics are different and have no "layers". They just
> show
> > >> > how it's
> > >> > > > > connected without actual physical constraints.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Anyway, I just looked and pins 1,4,10,13,14 of IC31 are tied
> to
> > >> +5V
> > >> > :)
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > By the way,
> > >> > > > > I assume there's an error in the schematics indicating pin 4
> tied
> > >> to
> > >> > pin12
> > >> > > > > of the 8048, as it's also tied to +5V.
> > >> > > > > Either that's pin 5 instead, or vice versa.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > IC31 is just a quad AND gate acting as a buffer. Each of the
> AND
> > >> > gates has
> > >> > > > > one of its inputs tied to +5V so whatever appeard on the other
> > >> input
> > >> > will
> > >> > > > > also appear on the output of that gate.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > The traces under IC31 are usually attacked by the battery acid
> > >> > though and it
> > >> > > > > is good if you do continuity testing around that area.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > BR,
> > >> > > > > Peter
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> > > > > From: tonezone020
> > >> > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com
> >
> > >> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:45 AM
> > >> > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Hi,
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Looking at the schematics it's hard to tell - it doesn't seem
> like
> > >> > there is
> > >> > > > > one for the underside of the board ...
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Regards,
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Tony
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:
> PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >> ,
> > >> > Peter
> > >> > > > > M�rck <peterm@> wrote:
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Just compare with the schematics?
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > BR,
> > >> > > > > > Peter
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> > > > > > From: tonezone020
> > >> > > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:
> PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
> > >> > > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Hi,
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Thanks for your message.
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but
> with
> > >> a
> > >> > bit of
> > >> > > > > coaxing the keys are now working.
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a
> tiny
> > >> bit
> > >> > of
> > >> > > > > success and Old Crow's advice from his site.
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected.
> Do you
> > >> > know if
> > >> > > > > this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the
> > >> > > > > underneath
> > >> > > > > circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Thanks,
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Tony
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:
> > >> PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >> > ,
> > >> > > > > bastebraak <bastebraak@> wrote:
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed
> the
> > >> > contacts on
> > >> > > > > my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@>
> > >> schreef:
> > >> > > > > > > Hi All,
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble
> contact
> > >> > strips or
> > >> > > > > alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > Many thanks in advance,
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > Tony
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
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Specifically IC34 pin 5 should not be connected to IC26 & IC24 pin 5.

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Jed Jorgensen <jed.jorgensen@gmail.com>wrote:

> I don't believe IC34 should be directly connected to the others. Double
> check the schematics for that.
>
> J
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 2:26 PM, tonezone020 <swamp.gigs@googlemail.com>wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'd been following Old Crows instructions but didn't spot those two
>> diagrams Thanks for that, especially the see thru.
>>
>> Re IC24 IC26 and IC34 - all pins 5s are linked.
>>
>> The buttons are back except Bank D,Patch 4 and 8 - probably new tacts ?
>>
>> Patches no longer storing at the moment.
>>
>> Found dry joint on IC30 Pin 7...
>>
>> I'll follow the +5 thru and then test again.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Tone
>>
>>
>> --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, Jed Jorgensen <jed.jorgensen@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > oops -- meant to post this too:
>> >
>> http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/korg/polysix/crowlm367/klm367a_img.gif
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Jed Jorgensen <jed.jorgensen@
>> ...>wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > > Crow's schematic can be a big help:
>> > >
>> > >
>> http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/korg/polysix/crowlm367/klm367a_eagle_schem.gif
>> > >
>> > > I also track things using his 'see-through' board layout (from which
>> the
>> > > clones were derived). It is the same as the original (except the
>> battery).
>> > >
>> > > j
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Peter M�rck <peterm@...>wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> **
>>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Damnit!
>> > >> The 14042 below IC26 in the schematics is marked IC34, but I see now
>> > >> there's
>> > >> another IC34 down in the lower right.
>> > >> Ok, add another typo and give it credit for some more confusion...
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> ----- Original Message -----
>> > >> From: "Jed Jorgensen" <jed.jorgensen@...>
>> > >> To: <PolySix@yahoogroups.com>
>> > >> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:55 PM
>> > >> Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
>> > >>
>> > >> Is that a typo (34 vs 24)?
>> > >>
>> > >> IC26 pin 5 should go to IC24 pin 5.
>> > >>
>> > >> jed
>> > >>
>> > >> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:21 PM, tonezone020
>> > >> <swamp.gigs@...>wrote:
>>
>> > >>
>> > >> > **
>> > >>
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Hi Peter,
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I bridged IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5 and there's continuity to IC22
>> pin
>> > >> 11
>> > >> > , however doing so knocked out the Bank A thru to Write switches
>> and
>> > >> when
>> > >> > the I change patch switches, the sound played doesn't.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Any pointers to where to look ?
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Thanks
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Tone
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, Peter M�rck <peterm@> wrote:
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > Hi,
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > Regarding IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5:
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > Yes, they should be connected to eachother.
>> > >> > > But more importantly, do any of them have contact with pin 11 of
>> the
>> > >> > 8048 (IC22) ?
>> > >> > > IC26 and IC34 are latches, controlled by pin 11 of the 8048.
>> > >> > > The fact that IC26 and IC34 have pins 5 connected to eachother
>> doesn't
>> > >> > necessarily mean any of them will work, unless they in turn are
>> > >> connected
>> > >> > to the 8048 pin 11.
>> > >> > > So connection between IC22 pin 11 <--> IC26 pin 5 <--> IC34 pin
>> 5 is
>> > >> > what you need.
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > BR,
>> > >> > > Peter
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > >> > > From: tonezone020
>> > >> > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
>> > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:59 AM
>> > >> > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > Erm,
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > Correction - that should be IC24 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected
>> to
>> > >> IC32
>> > >> > p2, 1, 17, 16
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > Cheers,
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > Tony
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "tonezone020" <swamp.gigs@>
>> wrote:
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > Hi Don and Peter,
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > Your messages have been very helpful consequently I've
>> discovered
>> > >> > anomalies elsewhere...
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > IC26 p5 doesn't connect to IC34 p5 - should I bridge this ?
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > IC26 to IC32 connections are all fine.
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > Also I think there's a mistake in the schematics. Rather than
>> IC34
>> > >> > connecting to IC32 it seems to be IC26 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is
>> connected
>> > >> to
>> > >> > IC32 p2, 1, 17, 16
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > Regards,
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > Tony
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "backshall1" <backshall1@>
>> wrote:
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > Yes, there is an error in the schematics. Pin 5 is +5v, not
>> pin 4.
>> > >> > Pin 4
>> > >> > > > > really does go to pin 12 on the 8048. I just checked a clone
>> board
>> > >> > and an
>> > >> > > > > old original KLM-367. They are the same.
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > Don B.
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > _____
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
>> PolySix@yahoogroups.com] On
>> > >> > Behalf Of
>> > >> > > > > Peter M�rck
>> > >> > > > > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:25 PM
>> > >> > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
>> > >> > > > > Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > You must be looking at the board layout drawing.
>> > >> > > > > The schematics are different and have no "layers". They just
>> show
>> > >> > how it's
>> > >> > > > > connected without actual physical constraints.
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > Anyway, I just looked and pins 1,4,10,13,14 of IC31 are tied
>> to
>> > >> +5V
>> > >> > :)
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > By the way,
>> > >> > > > > I assume there's an error in the schematics indicating pin 4
>> tied
>> > >> to
>> > >> > pin12
>> > >> > > > > of the 8048, as it's also tied to +5V.
>> > >> > > > > Either that's pin 5 instead, or vice versa.
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > IC31 is just a quad AND gate acting as a buffer. Each of the
>> AND
>> > >> > gates has
>> > >> > > > > one of its inputs tied to +5V so whatever appeard on the
>> other
>> > >> input
>> > >> > will
>> > >> > > > > also appear on the output of that gate.
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > The traces under IC31 are usually attacked by the battery
>> acid
>> > >> > though and it
>> > >> > > > > is good if you do continuity testing around that area.
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > BR,
>> > >> > > > > Peter
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > >> > > > > From: tonezone020
>> > >> > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:
>> PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
>> > >> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:45 AM
>> > >> > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > Hi,
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > Looking at the schematics it's hard to tell - it doesn't
>> seem like
>> > >> > there is
>> > >> > > > > one for the underside of the board ...
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > Regards,
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > Tony
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:
>> PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
>> > >> ,
>> > >> > Peter
>> > >> > > > > M�rck <peterm@> wrote:
>> > >> > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > > Just compare with the schematics?
>> > >> > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > > BR,
>> > >> > > > > > Peter
>> > >> > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > >> > > > > > From: tonezone020
>> > >> > > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:
>> PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
>> > >> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
>> > >> > > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
>> > >> > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > > Hi,
>> > >> > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > > Thanks for your message.
>> > >> > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > > I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but
>> with
>> > >> a
>> > >> > bit of
>> > >> > > > > coaxing the keys are now working.
>> > >> > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > > Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a
>> tiny
>> > >> bit
>> > >> > of
>> > >> > > > > success and Old Crow's advice from his site.
>> > >> > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > > I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected.
>> Do you
>> > >> > know if
>> > >> > > > > this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the
>> > >> > > > > underneath
>> > >> > > > > circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...
>> > >> > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > > Thanks,
>> > >> > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > > Tony
>> > >> > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:
>> > >> PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
>> > >> > ,
>> > >> > > > > bastebraak <bastebraak@> wrote:
>> > >> > > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > > > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed
>> the
>> > >> > contacts on
>> > >> > > > > my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
>> > >> > > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > > > Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@>
>> > >> schreef:
>> > >> > > > > > > Hi All,
>> > >> > > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > > > Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble
>> contact
>> > >> > strips or
>> > >> > > > > alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
>> > >> > > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > > > Many thanks in advance,
>> > >> > > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > > > Tony
>> > >> > > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > > >
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It may be, but it still has the same errors on KLM-367 we have just been
discussing :)
Thanks anyway. Looks like a good scan.

BR,
Peter

----- Original Message -----
From: "james meagher" <w.james.meagher@gmail.com>
To: <PolySix@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:22 PM
Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip


I believe that this is the most clear, complete and up to date Polysix
service manual on the web:
http://www.synfo.nl/servicemanuals/Korg/POLYSIX_SERVICE_MANUAL.pdf

Hope it helps!
James



On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Peter Mörck
<peterm@sunsetselection.com>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Oh, nice :)
> Thanks for that.
>
> Right, now listen to Jed, he knows better ;)
> Sorry for the confusion but I was only looking at the old scanned
> schematics, and they're obviously full off mistakes...
>
>
> BR,
> Peter
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jed Jorgensen" <jed.jorgensen@gmail.com>
> To: <PolySix@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 10:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
>
> oops -- meant to post this too:
>
> http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/korg/polysix/crowlm367/klm367a_img.gif
>
> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Jed Jorgensen
> <jed.jorgensen@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > Crow's schematic can be a big help:
> >
> >
> http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/korg/polysix/crowlm367/klm367a_eagle_schem.gif
> >
> > I also track things using his 'see-through' board layout (from which the
> > clones were derived). It is the same as the original (except the
> battery).
> >
> > j
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Peter Mörck
> > <peterm@sunsetselection.com>wrote:
> >
> >> **
> >>
> >>
> >> Damnit!
> >> The 14042 below IC26 in the schematics is marked IC34, but I see now
> >> there's
> >> another IC34 down in the lower right.
> >> Ok, add another typo and give it credit for some more confusion...
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Jed Jorgensen" <jed.jorgensen@gmail.com>
> >> To: <PolySix@yahoogroups.com>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:55 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >>
> >> Is that a typo (34 vs 24)?
> >>
> >> IC26 pin 5 should go to IC24 pin 5.
> >>
> >> jed
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:21 PM, tonezone020
> >> <swamp.gigs@googlemail.com>wrote:
> >>
> >> > **
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Hi Peter,
> >> >
> >> > I bridged IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5 and there's continuity to IC22
> >> > pin
> >> 11
> >> > , however doing so knocked out the Bank A thru to Write switches and
> >> when
> >> > the I change patch switches, the sound played doesn't.
> >> >
> >> > Any pointers to where to look ?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> >
> >> > Tone
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, Peter Mörck <peterm@...> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Hi,
> >> > >
> >> > > Regarding IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5:
> >> > >
> >> > > Yes, they should be connected to eachother.
> >> > > But more importantly, do any of them have contact with pin 11 of
> >> > > the
> >> > 8048 (IC22) ?
> >> > > IC26 and IC34 are latches, controlled by pin 11 of the 8048.
> >> > > The fact that IC26 and IC34 have pins 5 connected to eachother
> >> > > doesn't
> >> > necessarily mean any of them will work, unless they in turn are
> >> connected
> >> > to the 8048 pin 11.
> >> > > So connection between IC22 pin 11 <--> IC26 pin 5 <--> IC34 pin 5
> >> > > is
> >> > what you need.
> >> > >
> >> > > BR,
> >> > > Peter
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > From: tonezone020
> >> > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> >> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:59 AM
> >> > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Erm,
> >> > >
> >> > > Correction - that should be IC24 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected to
> >> IC32
> >> > p2, 1, 17, 16
> >> > >
> >> > > Cheers,
> >> > >
> >> > > Tony
> >> > >
> >> > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "tonezone020" <swamp.gigs@> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Hi Don and Peter,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Your messages have been very helpful consequently I've discovered
> >> > anomalies elsewhere...
> >> > > >
> >> > > > IC26 p5 doesn't connect to IC34 p5 - should I bridge this ?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > IC26 to IC32 connections are all fine.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Also I think there's a mistake in the schematics. Rather than
> >> > > > IC34
> >> > connecting to IC32 it seems to be IC26 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is
> >> > connected
> >> to
> >> > IC32 p2, 1, 17, 16
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Regards,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Tony
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "backshall1" <backshall1@> wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Yes, there is an error in the schematics. Pin 5 is +5v, not pin
> >> > > > > 4.
> >> > Pin 4
> >> > > > > really does go to pin 12 on the 8048. I just checked a clone
> >> > > > > board
> >> > and an
> >> > > > > old original KLM-367. They are the same.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Don B.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > _____
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com]
> On
> >> > Behalf Of
> >> > > > > Peter Mörck
> >> > > > > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:25 PM
> >> > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> >> > > > > Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > You must be looking at the board layout drawing.
> >> > > > > The schematics are different and have no "layers". They just
> show
> >> > how it's
> >> > > > > connected without actual physical constraints.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Anyway, I just looked and pins 1,4,10,13,14 of IC31 are tied to
> >> +5V
> >> > :)
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > By the way,
> >> > > > > I assume there's an error in the schematics indicating pin 4
> tied
> >> to
> >> > pin12
> >> > > > > of the 8048, as it's also tied to +5V.
> >> > > > > Either that's pin 5 instead, or vice versa.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > IC31 is just a quad AND gate acting as a buffer. Each of the
> >> > > > > AND
> >> > gates has
> >> > > > > one of its inputs tied to +5V so whatever appeard on the other
> >> input
> >> > will
> >> > > > > also appear on the output of that gate.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > The traces under IC31 are usually attacked by the battery acid
> >> > though and it
> >> > > > > is good if you do continuity testing around that area.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > BR,
> >> > > > > Peter
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > From: tonezone020
> >> > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:45 AM
> >> > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Hi,
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Looking at the schematics it's hard to tell - it doesn't seem
> >> > > > > like
> >> > there is
> >> > > > > one for the underside of the board ...
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Regards,
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Tony
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:
> PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> ,
> >> > Peter
> >> > > > > Mörck <peterm@> wrote:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Just compare with the schematics?
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > BR,
> >> > > > > > Peter
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > > From: tonezone020
> >> > > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com
> >
> >> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
> >> > > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Hi,
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Thanks for your message.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but
> with
> >> a
> >> > bit of
> >> > > > > coaxing the keys are now working.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a
> >> > > > > > tiny
> >> bit
> >> > of
> >> > > > > success and Old Crow's advice from his site.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected. Do
> >> > > > > > you
> >> > know if
> >> > > > > this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the
> >> > > > > underneath
> >> > > > > circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Thanks,
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Tony
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:
> >> PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> > ,
> >> > > > > bastebraak <bastebraak@> wrote:
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed
> >> > > > > > > the
> >> > contacts on
> >> > > > > my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@>
> >> schreef:
> >> > > > > > > Hi All,
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble
> contact
> >> > strips or
> >> > > > > alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Many thanks in advance,
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Tony
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
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Hi,

Yes, I think the top IC34 could be IC24 re the scan.

At the moment a lot of the synth seems to be working. The main problem area seems to be in saving patch changes. If I save any EG changes I can recall it. Sub Osc and Octave store too.

Any other changes - MG, VCO, VCF, Effects and Key Assign Mode work but don't get stored.

Any pointers as to what might be happening there ?

Regards...

--- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, Peter Mörck <peterm@...> wrote:
>
> It may be, but it still has the same errors on KLM-367 we have just been
> discussing :)
> Thanks anyway. Looks like a good scan.
>
> BR,
> Peter
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "james meagher" <w.james.meagher@...>
> To: <PolySix@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
>
>
> I believe that this is the most clear, complete and up to date Polysix
> service manual on the web:
> http://www.synfo.nl/servicemanuals/Korg/POLYSIX_SERVICE_MANUAL.pdf
>
> Hope it helps!
> James
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Peter Mörck
> <peterm@...>wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Oh, nice :)
> > Thanks for that.
> >
> > Right, now listen to Jed, he knows better ;)
> > Sorry for the confusion but I was only looking at the old scanned
> > schematics, and they're obviously full off mistakes...
> >
> >
> > BR,
> > Peter
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jed Jorgensen" <jed.jorgensen@...>
> > To: <PolySix@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 10:43 PM
> > Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >
> > oops -- meant to post this too:
> >
> > http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/korg/polysix/crowlm367/klm367a_img.gif
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Jed Jorgensen
> > <jed.jorgensen@...>wrote:
> >
> > > Crow's schematic can be a big help:
> > >
> > >
> > http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/korg/polysix/crowlm367/klm367a_eagle_schem.gif
> > >
> > > I also track things using his 'see-through' board layout (from which the
> > > clones were derived). It is the same as the original (except the
> > battery).
> > >
> > > j
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Peter Mörck
> > > <peterm@...>wrote:
> > >
> > >> **
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Damnit!
> > >> The 14042 below IC26 in the schematics is marked IC34, but I see now
> > >> there's
> > >> another IC34 down in the lower right.
> > >> Ok, add another typo and give it credit for some more confusion...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Jed Jorgensen" <jed.jorgensen@...>
> > >> To: <PolySix@yahoogroups.com>
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:55 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > >>
> > >> Is that a typo (34 vs 24)?
> > >>
> > >> IC26 pin 5 should go to IC24 pin 5.
> > >>
> > >> jed
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:21 PM, tonezone020
> > >> <swamp.gigs@...>wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > **
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Hi Peter,
> > >> >
> > >> > I bridged IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5 and there's continuity to IC22
> > >> > pin
> > >> 11
> > >> > , however doing so knocked out the Bank A thru to Write switches and
> > >> when
> > >> > the I change patch switches, the sound played doesn't.
> > >> >
> > >> > Any pointers to where to look ?
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks
> > >> >
> > >> > Tone
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, Peter Mörck <peterm@> wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Hi,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Regarding IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Yes, they should be connected to eachother.
> > >> > > But more importantly, do any of them have contact with pin 11 of
> > >> > > the
> > >> > 8048 (IC22) ?
> > >> > > IC26 and IC34 are latches, controlled by pin 11 of the 8048.
> > >> > > The fact that IC26 and IC34 have pins 5 connected to eachother
> > >> > > doesn't
> > >> > necessarily mean any of them will work, unless they in turn are
> > >> connected
> > >> > to the 8048 pin 11.
> > >> > > So connection between IC22 pin 11 <--> IC26 pin 5 <--> IC34 pin 5
> > >> > > is
> > >> > what you need.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > BR,
> > >> > > Peter
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> > > From: tonezone020
> > >> > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:59 AM
> > >> > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Erm,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Correction - that should be IC24 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected to
> > >> IC32
> > >> > p2, 1, 17, 16
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Cheers,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Tony
> > >> > >
> > >> > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "tonezone020" <swamp.gigs@> wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Hi Don and Peter,
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Your messages have been very helpful consequently I've discovered
> > >> > anomalies elsewhere...
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > IC26 p5 doesn't connect to IC34 p5 - should I bridge this ?
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > IC26 to IC32 connections are all fine.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Also I think there's a mistake in the schematics. Rather than
> > >> > > > IC34
> > >> > connecting to IC32 it seems to be IC26 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is
> > >> > connected
> > >> to
> > >> > IC32 p2, 1, 17, 16
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Regards,
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Tony
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "backshall1" <backshall1@> wrote:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Yes, there is an error in the schematics. Pin 5 is +5v, not pin
> > >> > > > > 4.
> > >> > Pin 4
> > >> > > > > really does go to pin 12 on the 8048. I just checked a clone
> > >> > > > > board
> > >> > and an
> > >> > > > > old original KLM-367. They are the same.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Don B.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > _____
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com]
> > On
> > >> > Behalf Of
> > >> > > > > Peter Mörck
> > >> > > > > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:25 PM
> > >> > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> > >> > > > > Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > You must be looking at the board layout drawing.
> > >> > > > > The schematics are different and have no "layers". They just
> > show
> > >> > how it's
> > >> > > > > connected without actual physical constraints.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Anyway, I just looked and pins 1,4,10,13,14 of IC31 are tied to
> > >> +5V
> > >> > :)
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > By the way,
> > >> > > > > I assume there's an error in the schematics indicating pin 4
> > tied
> > >> to
> > >> > pin12
> > >> > > > > of the 8048, as it's also tied to +5V.
> > >> > > > > Either that's pin 5 instead, or vice versa.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > IC31 is just a quad AND gate acting as a buffer. Each of the
> > >> > > > > AND
> > >> > gates has
> > >> > > > > one of its inputs tied to +5V so whatever appeard on the other
> > >> input
> > >> > will
> > >> > > > > also appear on the output of that gate.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > The traces under IC31 are usually attacked by the battery acid
> > >> > though and it
> > >> > > > > is good if you do continuity testing around that area.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > BR,
> > >> > > > > Peter
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> > > > > From: tonezone020
> > >> > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:45 AM
> > >> > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Hi,
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Looking at the schematics it's hard to tell - it doesn't seem
> > >> > > > > like
> > >> > there is
> > >> > > > > one for the underside of the board ...
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Regards,
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Tony
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:
> > PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >> ,
> > >> > Peter
> > >> > > > > Mörck <peterm@> wrote:
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Just compare with the schematics?
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > BR,
> > >> > > > > > Peter
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> > > > > > From: tonezone020
> > >> > > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > >> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
> > >> > > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Hi,
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Thanks for your message.
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but
> > with
> > >> a
> > >> > bit of
> > >> > > > > coaxing the keys are now working.
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a
> > >> > > > > > tiny
> > >> bit
> > >> > of
> > >> > > > > success and Old Crow's advice from his site.
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected. Do
> > >> > > > > > you
> > >> > know if
> > >> > > > > this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the
> > >> > > > > underneath
> > >> > > > > circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Thanks,
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Tony
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:
> > >> PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >> > ,
> > >> > > > > bastebraak <bastebraak@> wrote:
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed
> > >> > > > > > > the
> > >> > contacts on
> > >> > > > > my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@>
> > >> schreef:
> > >> > > > > > > Hi All,
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble
> > contact
> > >> > strips or
> > >> > > > > alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > Many thanks in advance,
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > Tony
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
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> --
> C'est La Guerre Moving Pictures Inc.
> 364 Home Street
> Winnipeg, Manitoba
> R3G 1X4
> (204) 918 9317
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>

Okay, I pulled out my paper copy of the schematic which has all the errors
I’ve noticed so far. I should have done this earlier instead of relying on
the pdf file to answer questions.



1) On IC30,31, pin 5 in connected to +5v, not pin 4.

2) IC30 ground pin is pin 7, not pin 1.

3) The 14042 below IC26 is IC24, not IC34.

4) The capacitor connected between R28 and pin 6 of IC3 is C5, not C4.

5) The diode on pin 9 of IC29 is D13, not D12.

6) The diode on pin 15 of IC29 is D14, not D13.

7) The signal from pin 7 of IC14 is MG Level, not MG SPeed.

8) Capacitor C33 is connected to the collector of Q5, not the other side of
R98.



Those are the errors I have marked in red. There may be more changes on this
sheet that I failed to highlight in red so they are not immediately visible.



Don B.



_____

From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
tonezone020
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:01 PM
To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip





Hi,

Yes, I think the top IC34 could be IC24 re the scan.

At the moment a lot of the synth seems to be working. The main problem area
seems to be in saving patch changes. If I save any EG changes I can recall
it. Sub Osc and Octave store too.

Any other changes - MG, VCO, VCF, Effects and Key Assign Mode work but don't
get stored.

Any pointers as to what might be happening there ?

Regards...

--- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> , Peter
Mörck <peterm@...> wrote:

>
> It may be, but it still has the same errors on KLM-367 we have just been
> discussing :)
> Thanks anyway. Looks like a good scan.
>
> BR,
> Peter
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "james meagher" <w.james.meagher@...>
> To: <PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> >
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
>
>
> I believe that this is the most clear, complete and up to date Polysix
> service manual on the web:
> http://www.synfo.nl/servicemanuals/Korg/POLYSIX_SERVICE_MANUAL.pdf
>
> Hope it helps!
> James
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Peter Mörck
> <peterm@...>wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Oh, nice :)
> > Thanks for that.
> >
> > Right, now listen to Jed, he knows better ;)
> > Sorry for the confusion but I was only looking at the old scanned
> > schematics, and they're obviously full off mistakes...
> >
> >
> > BR,
> > Peter
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jed Jorgensen" <jed.jorgensen@...>
> > To: <PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> >
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 10:43 PM
> > Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >
> > oops -- meant to post this too:
> >
> >

http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/korg/polysix/crowlm367/klm367a_img.gi
f

> >
> > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Jed Jorgensen
> > <jed.jorgensen@...>wrote:
> >
> > > Crow's schematic can be a big help:
> > >
> > >
> >

http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/korg/polysix/crowlm367/klm367a_eagle_
schem.gif

> > >
> > > I also track things using his 'see-through' board layout (from which

the

> > > clones were derived). It is the same as the original (except the
> > battery).
> > >
> > > j
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Peter Mörck
> > > <peterm@...>wrote:
> > >
> > >> **
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Damnit!
> > >> The 14042 below IC26 in the schematics is marked IC34, but I see now
> > >> there's
> > >> another IC34 down in the lower right.
> > >> Ok, add another typo and give it credit for some more confusion...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Jed Jorgensen" <jed.jorgensen@...>
> > >> To: <PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> >
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:55 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > >>
> > >> Is that a typo (34 vs 24)?
> > >>
> > >> IC26 pin 5 should go to IC24 pin 5.
> > >>
> > >> jed
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:21 PM, tonezone020
> > >> <swamp.gigs@...>wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > **
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Hi Peter,
> > >> >
> > >> > I bridged IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5 and there's continuity to IC22
> > >> > pin
> > >> 11
> > >> > , however doing so knocked out the Bank A thru to Write switches

and

> > >> when
> > >> > the I change patch switches, the sound played doesn't.
> > >> >
> > >> > Any pointers to where to look ?
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks
> > >> >
> > >> > Tone
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> ,

Peter Mörck <peterm@> wrote:

> > >> > >
> > >> > > Hi,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Regarding IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Yes, they should be connected to eachother.
> > >> > > But more importantly, do any of them have contact with pin 11 of
> > >> > > the
> > >> > 8048 (IC22) ?
> > >> > > IC26 and IC34 are latches, controlled by pin 11 of the 8048.
> > >> > > The fact that IC26 and IC34 have pins 5 connected to eachother
> > >> > > doesn't
> > >> > necessarily mean any of them will work, unless they in turn are
> > >> connected
> > >> > to the 8048 pin 11.
> > >> > > So connection between IC22 pin 11 <--> IC26 pin 5 <--> IC34 pin 5

> > >> > > is
> > >> > what you need.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > BR,
> > >> > > Peter
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> > > From: tonezone020
> > >> > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:59 AM
> > >> > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Erm,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Correction - that should be IC24 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected

to

> > >> IC32
> > >> > p2, 1, 17, 16
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Cheers,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Tony
> > >> > >
> > >> > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>

, "tonezone020" <swamp.gigs@> wrote:

> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Hi Don and Peter,
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Your messages have been very helpful consequently I've

discovered

> > >> > anomalies elsewhere...
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > IC26 p5 doesn't connect to IC34 p5 - should I bridge this ?
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > IC26 to IC32 connections are all fine.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Also I think there's a mistake in the schematics. Rather than
> > >> > > > IC34
> > >> > connecting to IC32 it seems to be IC26 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is
> > >> > connected
> > >> to
> > >> > IC32 p2, 1, 17, 16
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Regards,
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Tony
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com

<mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> , "backshall1" <backshall1@> wrote:

> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Yes, there is an error in the schematics. Pin 5 is +5v, not

pin

> > >> > > > > 4.
> > >> > Pin 4
> > >> > > > > really does go to pin 12 on the 8048. I just checked a clone
> > >> > > > > board
> > >> > and an
> > >> > > > > old original KLM-367. They are the same.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Don B.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > _____
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com

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> > On
> > >> > Behalf Of
> > >> > > > > Peter Mörck
> > >> > > > > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:25 PM
> > >> > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com

<mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>

> > >> > > > > Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > You must be looking at the board layout drawing.
> > >> > > > > The schematics are different and have no "layers". They just
> > show
> > >> > how it's
> > >> > > > > connected without actual physical constraints.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Anyway, I just looked and pins 1,4,10,13,14 of IC31 are tied

to

> > >> +5V
> > >> > :)
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > By the way,
> > >> > > > > I assume there's an error in the schematics indicating pin 4
> > tied
> > >> to
> > >> > pin12
> > >> > > > > of the 8048, as it's also tied to +5V.
> > >> > > > > Either that's pin 5 instead, or vice versa.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > IC31 is just a quad AND gate acting as a buffer. Each of the
> > >> > > > > AND
> > >> > gates has
> > >> > > > > one of its inputs tied to +5V so whatever appeard on the

other

> > >> input
> > >> > will
> > >> > > > > also appear on the output of that gate.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > The traces under IC31 are usually attacked by the battery

acid

> > >> > though and it
> > >> > > > > is good if you do continuity testing around that area.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > BR,
> > >> > > > > Peter
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> > > > > From: tonezone020
> > >> > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com

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> > >> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:45 AM
> > >> > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Hi,
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Looking at the schematics it's hard to tell - it doesn't seem
> > >> > > > > like
> > >> > there is
> > >> > > > > one for the underside of the board ...
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Regards,
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Tony
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com

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> > PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >> ,
> > >> > Peter
> > >> > > > > Mörck <peterm@> wrote:
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Just compare with the schematics?
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > BR,
> > >> > > > > > Peter
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> > > > > > From: tonezone020
> > >> > > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com

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> > >
> > >> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:52 AM
> > >> > > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Hi,
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Thanks for your message.
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > I managed to sort the strips out - they had stretched, but
> > with
> > >> a
> > >> > bit of
> > >> > > > > coaxing the keys are now working.
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Been slowly trying to fix the battery leak problem with a
> > >> > > > > > tiny
> > >> bit
> > >> > of
> > >> > > > > success and Old Crow's advice from his site.
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > I discovered pin numbers 13 and 14 on IC31 are connected.

Do

> > >> > > > > > you
> > >> > know if
> > >> > > > > this should be so? There seems to be a copper trace on the
> > >> > > > > underneath
> > >> > > > > circuitry. It also appears to be the same for IC30...
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Thanks,
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Tony
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com

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> > >> > ,
> > >> > > > > bastebraak <bastebraak@> wrote:
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > Is the old one damaged or just not working well. I fixed
> > >> > > > > > > the
> > >> > contacts on
> > >> > > > > my polysix with a paste i ordered online.
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > Verzonden vanaf Samsung Mobiletonezone020 <swamp.gigs@>
> > >> schreef:
> > >> > > > > > > Hi All,
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > Does anyone know where I can get a couple of 6 bubble
> > contact
> > >> > strips or
> > >> > > > > alternatives for my synth, preferably in the Uk ?
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > Many thanks in advance,
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > Tony
> > >> > > > > > >
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Thanks Don,

I was just thinking of posting if anyone had compiled a list of all the mistakes in the P6 SM ... but you beat me to it!

Thanks a lot for this. I'm about to dig into my P6, but I don't have a ton of tech experience so mistakes in the SM can really set me back a while before I realize the source of the confusion.

Cheers,
James


Sent from my iPhone

On 2012-07-24, at 8:45 PM, "backshall1" <backshall1@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> Okay, I pulled out my paper copy of the schematic which has all the errors
> I’ve noticed so far. I should have done this earlier instead of relying on
> the pdf file to answer questions.
>
> 1) On IC30,31, pin 5 in connected to +5v, not pin 4.
>
> 2) IC30 ground pin is pin 7, not pin 1.
>
> 3) The 14042 below IC26 is IC24, not IC34.
>
> 4) The capacitor connected between R28 and pin 6 of IC3 is C5, not C4.
>
> 5) The diode on pin 9 of IC29 is D13, not D12.
>
> 6) The diode on pin 15 of IC29 is D14, not D13.
>
> 7) The signal from pin 7 of IC14 is MG Level, not MG SPeed.
>
> 8) Capacitor C33 is connected to the collector of Q5, not the other side of
> R98.
>
> Those are the errors I have marked in red. There may be more changes on this
> sheet that I failed to highlight in red so they are not immediately visible.
>
> Don B.
>
> _____
>
> From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> tonezone020
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:01 PM
> To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
>
> Hi,
>
> Yes, I think the top IC34 could be IC24 re the scan.
>
> At the moment a lot of the synth seems to be working. The main problem area
> seems to be in saving patch changes. If I save any EG changes I can recall
> it. Sub Osc and Octave store too.
>
> Any other changes - MG, VCO, VCF, Effects and Key Assign Mode work but don't
> get stored.
>
> Any pointers as to what might be happening there ?
>
> Regards...
>
> --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> , Peter
> Mörck <peterm@...> wrote:
> >
> > It may be, but it still has the same errors on KLM-367 we have just been
> > discussing :)
> > Thanks anyway. Looks like a good scan.
> >
> > BR,
> > Peter
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "james meagher" <w.james.meagher@...>
> > To: <PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> >
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:22 PM
> > Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> >
> >
> > I believe that this is the most clear, complete and up to date Polysix
> > service manual on the web:
> > http://www.synfo.nl/servicemanuals/Korg/POLYSIX_SERVICE_MANUAL.pdf
> >
> > Hope it helps!
> > James
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Peter Mörck
> > <peterm@...>wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Oh, nice :)
> > > Thanks for that.
> > >
> > > Right, now listen to Jed, he knows better ;)
> > > Sorry for the confusion but I was only looking at the old scanned
> > > schematics, and they're obviously full off mistakes...
> > >
> > >
> > > BR,
> > > Peter
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jed Jorgensen" <jed.jorgensen@...>
> > > To: <PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> >
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 10:43 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > >
> > > oops -- meant to post this too:
> > >
> > >
> http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/korg/polysix/crowlm367/klm367a_img.gi
> f
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Jed Jorgensen
> > > <jed.jorgensen@...>wrote:
> > >
> > > > Crow's schematic can be a big help:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/korg/polysix/crowlm367/klm367a_eagle_
> schem.gif
> > > >
> > > > I also track things using his 'see-through' board layout (from which
> the
> > > > clones were derived). It is the same as the original (except the
> > > battery).
> > > >
> > > > j
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Peter Mörck
> > > > <peterm@...>wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> **
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Damnit!
> > > >> The 14042 below IC26 in the schematics is marked IC34, but I see now
> > > >> there's
> > > >> another IC34 down in the lower right.
> > > >> Ok, add another typo and give it credit for some more confusion...
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> From: "Jed Jorgensen" <jed.jorgensen@...>
> > > >> To: <PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> >
> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:55 PM
> > > >> Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > > >>
> > > >> Is that a typo (34 vs 24)?
> > > >>
> > > >> IC26 pin 5 should go to IC24 pin 5.
> > > >>
> > > >> jed
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:21 PM, tonezone020
> > > >> <swamp.gigs@...>wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > **
> > > >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Hi Peter,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I bridged IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5 and there's continuity to IC22
> > > >> > pin
> > > >> 11
> > > >> > , however doing so knocked out the Bank A thru to Write switches
> and
> > > >> when
> > > >> > the I change patch switches, the sound played doesn't.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Any pointers to where to look ?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Thanks
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Tone
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> Peter Mörck <peterm@> wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Hi,
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Regarding IC26 pin 5 --> IC34 pin 5:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Yes, they should be connected to eachother.
> > > >> > > But more importantly, do any of them have contact with pin 11 of
> > > >> > > the
> > > >> > 8048 (IC22) ?
> > > >> > > IC26 and IC34 are latches, controlled by pin 11 of the 8048.
> > > >> > > The fact that IC26 and IC34 have pins 5 connected to eachother
> > > >> > > doesn't
> > > >> > necessarily mean any of them will work, unless they in turn are
> > > >> connected
> > > >> > to the 8048 pin 11.
> > > >> > > So connection between IC22 pin 11 <--> IC26 pin 5 <--> IC34 pin 5
>
> > > >> > > is
> > > >> > what you need.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > BR,
> > > >> > > Peter
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> > > From: tonezone020
> > > >> > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:59 AM
> > > >> > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Erm,
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Correction - that should be IC24 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is connected
> to
> > > >> IC32
> > > >> > p2, 1, 17, 16
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Cheers,
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Tony
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> , "tonezone020" <swamp.gigs@> wrote:
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Hi Don and Peter,
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Your messages have been very helpful consequently I've
> discovered
> > > >> > anomalies elsewhere...
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > IC26 p5 doesn't connect to IC34 p5 - should I bridge this ?
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > IC26 to IC32 connections are all fine.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Also I think there's a mistake in the schematics. Rather than
> > > >> > > > IC34
> > > >> > connecting to IC32 it seems to be IC26 p2, 1, 11, 10 that is
> > > >> > connected
> > > >> to
> > > >> > IC32 p2, 1, 17, 16
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Regards,
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Tony
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> , "backshall1" <backshall1@> wrote:
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > Yes, there is an error in the schematics. Pin 5 is +5v, not
> pin
> > > >> > > > > 4.
> > > >> > Pin 4
> > > >> > > > > really does go to pin 12 on the 8048. I just checked a clone
> > > >> > > > > board
> > > >> > and an
> > > >> > > > > old original KLM-367. They are the same.
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > Don B.
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > _____
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > From: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> ]
> > > On
> > > >> > Behalf Of
> > > >> > > > > Peter Mörck
> > > >> > > > > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:25 PM
> > > >> > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > >> > > > > Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > You must be looking at the board layout drawing.
> > > >> > > > > The schematics are different and have no "layers". They just
> > > show
> > > >> > how it's
> > > >> > > > > connected without actual physical constraints.
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > Anyway, I just looked and pins 1,4,10,13,14 of IC31 are tied
> to
> > > >> +5V
> > > >> > :)
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > By the way,
> > > >> > > > > I assume there's an error in the schematics indicating pin 4
> > > tied
> > > >> to
> > > >> > pin12
> > > >> > > > > of the 8048, as it's also tied to +5V.
> > > >> > > > > Either that's pin 5 instead, or vice versa.
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > IC31 is just a quad AND gate acting as a buffer. Each of the
> > > >> > > > > AND
> > > >> > gates has
> > > >> > > > > one of its inputs tied to +5V so whatever appeard on the
> other
> > > >> input
> > > >> > will
> > > >> > > > > also appear on the output of that gate.
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > The traces under IC31 are usually attacked by the battery
> acid
> > > >> > though and it
> > > >> > > > > is good if you do continuity testing around that area.
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > BR,
> > > >> > > > > Peter
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> > > > > From: tonezone020
> > > >> > > > > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > >> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:45 AM
> > > >> > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix contact strip
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > Hi,
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > Looking at the schemat
>



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